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How hard is it to convert a 142 x 12 rear wheel to Boost? Any recommended kits that have worked Well?
Ebay sellers have a kit with 2 axle spacers and a disc spacer.
Only faff is when you remove/refit the wheel as the spacers will fall out and roll under the fridge / in the undergrowth. Cassette will end up 3 mm inboard, not usually a problem.
Hope have a kit for their hubs which puts the cassette in the correct place, but you have to re-dish the wheel.
Tomcrow99 - I use this and it works perfectly. Panic over
Great stuff, thanks!
Ordered. On the lookout for a set of decent 29" boost forks now
Brant, before I order, can you confirm this:
Will it come with the cable-routing grommets, or will they at least be orderable?
My last Titus frame didn't come with any and I ended up having to use Sugru, which isn't ideal.
35 quid postage to me here in Sweden! Brexit spite?
Did you at least get the VAT back?
What size is the frame in the first post?
Ordered, med, black. Damn it. What size headtube are we looking at please Brant?
100mm. Geometry chart on last page; nice to see an XL frame with a proper length head tube on it, I'd buy one if I had some money!
What's the view on sizing for 5ft 10? Go with a large and shorter stem?
Or will medium be more fun to mess about with as slightly smaller?
I'd round up, its longer than past on ones but its not as long as say Bird, Starling etc so i dont think youd find it too long.
Being picky Id question why the XL needs a 20" seatube (2" taller but only an inch longer). I can squeeze onto a 20" frame with a 150mm dropper, but its close and Im 'only' 5ft11-6ft. So im umming and ahhing between l and xl.
Might be time to sell a kidney, or actually a bike. Time to get rid of the fixed gear road bike as its not been used for 3 years.
@brant, any chance of shiney colours coming too. Likes my bling... although the orange could be quite cool...
What size headtube are we looking at please Brant?
Says 100mm for medium on geo table
What’s the view on sizing for 5ft 10?
Medium id say. 5'8.5" here and, given the reach/eTT lengths im considering small or medium! Currently have a 16" Scandal V2 29er and i think that was a mere 585mm eTT compared to 601mm on the new small Scandal. Sizing down has the benefit of running longer length dropper too
Brant, Brant, Brant I'd like to throw some money towards the steel frame, are you going to do the pre-order for the Big Dog and Bootzippa any time soon please?
Medium id say. 5’8.5″ here and, given the reach/eTT lengths im considering small or medium! Currently have a 16″ Scandal V2 29er and i think that was a mere 585mm eTT compared to 601mm on the new small Scandal.
Bear in mind the old one was designed arround a 90-110mm stem, this ones probably intended for a 40mm? So you want about that added on the reach.
Hi Brandt, could you tell me if the 74.5 degree angle is the actual seat tube angle in XL size ? Sound weird because smaller sizes are 73, may be because of the bent seat tube ?
Makes sense. The taller people buying XL frames often have to have a lot of post sticking out, pushing the saddle way (too far) back. Inline seat posts help but a steeper seat tube is better.
Any details on headsets? I was going to add a load of stuff like that to the order to make the most of paying the postage.
Also, seat collar?
Presume its the same integrated one as the parkwood/fatty trail/carbon 1.5" tapered frames? Fsa no.42 or whatever it was called.
montgomery, i would say the opposite: longer legs means need for longer distance from BB. For my 92cm legs, 72.5° seat angle is perfect. With a 74.5° ST angle, I would need 40 mm setback.
However, on the scandal, the seat tube is bent ... so there is a difference between actual and effective STA. And my usual software to check the geometry is not working anymore ... plus, it appears that the effective STA could be measured in different ways.
It would be nice if Brant made this point clear.
PS: english is not my mother tongue, sorry for that!
"Bear in mind the old one was designed arround a 90-110mm stem, this ones probably intended for a 40mm? So you want about that added on the reach."
Yeah, I was thinking of moving my 35mm stem off my stanton
Seat angle is effective unsagged angle measured at 800mm from bb centre on all frame sizes.
This keeps the rider fore-aft COG in a similar place as taller riders riding a larger frame will have a steeper seat angle, though the longer post extension and seat tube height will give similar setback.
I could have done the same by making the chainstays longer on the larger bikes but didn’t as I don’t like doing that.
Seat angle will increase about 1deg under sag.
Seat angle is not as steep as some current suspension frames as the bike does not sag backward into rear shock travel as it climbs, and also as I measure it at 800mm (sensible) not “headset” or “stack” height which is stupid.
(Edit: crossed post)
Headset and seat collar size?
My current XL frame at Hebden Bridge station last week - inline seatpost, saddle pretty much all the way forward. I'll probably shift the wheel back within the dropouts next time I strip it down but, even so, steeper seat tube angles sound good to me...
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love a good on-one thread.
Thank's a lot Brant for this fast and detailed answer. I am, however, disappointed because this frame sounds so good but this STA soed not suits me.
Sguiom riding to the shops earlier
Thats funny, but 73° is not like this 🙂 stanton sherpa is 72°, ragley big wig is 72°, santa cruz chameleon is 72.8° ... and this new scandal is 73° in M size! There are also a lot of bike at 74 or 74.5°, but that's the steepest hardtails.
Interesting. By my slightly dodgy math, the difference in horizontal distance between a 72 and 73 degree seatpost is 12.something mm. Most seat rails have that much adjustment, no? Can anyone really feel a 12mm difference when riding?
Can anyone really feel a 12mm difference when riding?
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Depends how pointy your saddle is.
Ask your
Depends how pointy your saddle is.
Install dropper. Don't point saddle upwards. Wear tighter shorts. Move seat back.
job jobbed
FYI, I found a setback dropper seatpost so I am changing my mind... because it looks so cool and it was for me the only downside!
According to the website, you need:
Headset: Tapered / IS42/28.6 IS52/40
30.9 seatpost and 34.9 seatpost clamp
BSA 73mm bottom bracket
Boost rear axle.
Get your shopping done early so its ready to be built by the time it arrives in October, November or Christmas.
It comes with a rear axle according the one of Brant's posts.
It comes with a rear axle according the one of Brant’s posts.
Sorry, that was misleading. I meant boost rear wheel.
Any recommendations for a IS42/28.6 IS52/40 headset?
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Any recommendations for a IS42/28.6 IS52/40 headset?
I've gone with Hope previously for this spec.
Seriously tempted by one of these.
Brant - do the DT cable covers come with the frame?
Brant – do the DT cable covers come with the frame?
I'm certainly hoping so.
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Brant – do the DT cable covers come with the frame?I’m certainly hoping so.
🙂
Thank you Brant.
I'm guessing now that the store has gone there's no collection option? I'm up in Sheffield pretty regularly with work?
Orange XL ordered, first new mtb in 14 years! I don't ride my old one much, so it's been hard to justify replacing it. Excited now though.
Orange L just ordered! Looking forward to my first complete bike build since I did my Zaskar in 2005. Granted I'll be reusing components from my horrible Zaskar 29er, but still.
Can't believe I've come back to Singletrack for the first time in years and a few days later I'm buying bike stuff again... or maybe I can.
I’m guessing now that the store has gone there’s no collection option? I’m up in Sheffield pretty regularly with work?
+1
I want to pick it up and Brant to pose for photos handing over the boxes like giant novelty cheques.
Either that or just save £20 on yodel an get some wierd bent bars instead.
I want to pick it up and Brant to pose for photos handing over the boxes like giant novelty cheques.
Ok. We’ll see what we can do. Will. Be a Sunday evening only though.