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Do you know who that was??!!
Ronnie Pickering!!
Cyclist was a knob. Trucky wasn't much better.
Jeez. A bit of forgiveness wouldn't have gone amiss there. 😯
I liked the bit where the cyclist couldn't get his backpack back on. The rest of it just makes me despair for the human race.
worst fight ever.
... and who picked that as a soundtrack to the video??
What did the driver actually do? I have the sound off and I've also skipped ahead, what did I miss?
What a great somethingion of modern Britain.
Stressed and angry people bickering and fighting between themselves to the tune of inane sports celebrity chatter. Is this a Banksy installation?
Pair of oxygen thieves ,worlds ****ed simple as
What did the driver actually do?
From what I can tell the driver decided to prove his point by keeping the cyclist trapped in a dangerous road position.
Thankfully as demonstrated by that taxi/cyclist collision video that is doing the rounds not everyone on the roads is looking for a conflict (although it sometimes feels like it) and mistakes can sometimes be sorted with a handshake.
... and who picked that as a soundtrack to the video??
it was the radio on in the cab
What did the driver actually do? I have the sound off and I've also skipped ahead, what did I miss?
the chap riding the bike with attidude was overtaking the lgv
What did the driver actually do?
Text says cyclist was in right hand lane at junction (behind white van which merged in front of truck)
Cyclist obviously presumed lorry should have waited to let him in front? (sound off also).
From what I can tell the driver decided to prove his point by keeping the cyclist trapped in a dangerous road position.
Were both lanes straight on then? cant tell from video, also cant tell how much cyclist was alongside or why he thought he should also be allowed to merge in front of lorry?
It was a bad move by the cyclist to start with trying to jump the traffic at the lights, but the driver sees him and keeps the cyclist trapped on the outside for ages while mouthing off (which they both seem quite eager to do), cyclist could have stopped in the middle of the road and let the truck drive off, but that doesn't feel like it would be a safe manoeuvre either.
daft from both of them but not sure why the cyclist tried to out race a truck from the light or not give up when they were losing
As for the "fight" FFS that was terrible on so many levels not least of which was ability to actually fight which was matched only by the point of the fight
Cyclist started it , truck driver was equally a nobhead but the cyclist started it - assuming the cyclist tries to overtake from the lights
Putting aside what went on before....
Why on earth would you pick a fight with an HGV... ?
How could that have resulted any differently ??
but the driver keeps the cyclist trapped on the outside for ages
but by the time the lorry has got half way into the junction to realise the cyclist is staying alongside there is already not enough space (short of the lorry doing an emergency stop) to let the cyclist catch up and get infront. So if the cyclist did decide to stay alongside at that point (and we dont know if he did) then youve already gone across the rest of the junction in the time it takes for the driver to confirm this, so as he was (still) in front of the cyclist stopping the lorry would have done nothing.
that fight gets worse every time i watch it
I don't [i]necessarily[/i] want to imply that either protagonist isn't behaving like a bit of a bumcandle, but I note that when the van/lorry is stationary at the beginning of the video you can hear someone banging on it (from 0:32).
Which, if you ask me, implies that something happened prior to the start of the video.
I suspect we may only have a potentially small part of the story here.
Is this some kind of budget British set version of Grand Theft Auto?
but by the time the lorry has got half way into the junction to realise the cyclist is staying alongside there is already not enough space (short of the lorry doing an emergency stop) to let the cyclist catch up and get infront
Listen to the sound, there is a conversation (of a kind) going on between the driver and the cyclist while moving.
Was this that Ultra White Collar boxing thingy with pondo ?
Listen to the sound, there is a conversation (of a kind) going on between the driver and the cyclist while moving.
Just played it again, conversation well after the junction. Nothing before that. Agreed at that point the lorry driver could (should) have conceded ground for safety but he was well through the point at which the a merge should have happened. Having heard it the cyclist is definitely a prat for trying the force the overtake completely past the point at which he could (should!) have conceded (at the end of the box junction) for his own safety.
What we need is the right to bear arms
The white transit van is in a lane thats right turn only,
Lights change,
Van is quicker than HGV and manages to nip in front.
Ricky Hatton on the other hand is not, as the lane narrows he,s pinched on the outside
The roads narrows and battle commences.
Knob^Knob...
Not happy with the soundtrack. I was deeply disturbed by it 🙁
What's up with the pedestrian at the end having a go at the cycling numpty?
As bewildering as that video is, I find it strange that the HGV driver had 'no issues' with the white van abusing the 'right turn' lane, but took exception to the cyclist doing it (both van and cyclist were out of order, though)
Tribalism, I suppose.
[quote=houndlegs opined]Was this that Ultra White Collar boxing thingy with pondo ?
no this was Ultra shite boxing
Cyclist has clearly lost the plot but there is something going on at the lights. The lorry keeps edging forward either to block someone in the outside lane, or because the cyclist wants a word. You also see a brief reflection in the window of the car in front.
The fact the video doesn't show anything before this is a clue there has already been some sort of interaction between fistycuffs cyclist and bolshy trucker.
The fact the video doesn't show anything before this is a clue there has already been some sort of interaction between fistycuffs cyclist and bolshy trucker.
Or that nothing happened before this point 😮
Given that none of the video makes sense though, I'd be inclined to believe there's more to it.
[quote=Bez ]I don't necessarily want to imply that either protagonist isn't behaving like a bit of a bumcandle, but I note that when the van/lorry is stationary at the beginning of the video you can hear someone banging on it (from 0:32).Isn't that just some noise from the skip lorry passing by? It certainly gets louder as it approaches and then fades as it passes.
Cyclist was a prick. The first part of the "fight" appears to be the driver just holding the cyclist back while he makes some pretty ineffectual swings with his fist. I'm guessing the driver had to get out of the cab to move the bike that had been lent up against it.
Isn't that just some noise from the skip lorry passing by? It certainly gets louder as it approaches and then fades as it passes.
I don't think it's that. You hear it again at 0:44 and then when the cyclist appears to thump the cab at 1:20 there's a very similar noise. Then at 1:35 another similar noise, which—given that the driver appears in shot a couple of seconds later—could well be the driver's door shutting: something which would have a broadly similar effect on an internal mic.
Could be something else making the noise, of course. I'd just be rather cautious about assuming that this video's the whole story. Might be, might not.
Anyway, where's Ronnie Pickering when you need him, eh?
F*** knows what the cyclist was doing in that lane/position to go straight on...
However when it comes to the fight, I'm damn sure that if a driver gets out of his vehicle then the rider can take that as a sign that he is fully justified in striking first (pre-emptive self defence).
[quote=ninfan ]I'm damn sure that if a driver gets out of his vehicle then the rider can take that as a sign that he is fully justified in striking first (pre-emptive self defence).Unless the driver had to get out for another reason - like moving the bike away.
arrrrr yes sunny South Reddish always a good spot for a wee punch up, surprised the locals didn't give-em both a good shoeing.
Ninfan,does that mean the cyclist can then walk towards him,throw a punch and then continue to throw them,without reply until the driver sweeps his legs away? If the cyclist was in the right and had carried out "pre-emptive self defence" why was he so keen to clear off at the end? Actually we don't have enough comparisons to rape apologists for anybody suggesting the cyclist is a cock, where is Aracer? Usual speculation here about what might have happened before,because obviously no cyclist can be in the wrong.
The cyclist is the worst advert for cycling and brings shame on us all,the trucker shows huge restraint and just holds him in view of the camera for future prosecution i hope he gets whats comming its common assault.
Humanity at its finest!
Happy slapping one another in the street over some traffic based disagreement, then posting it on YouTube for a court of uninformed to pontificate and argue about...
What an utterly magnificent species we are becoming...
There is a advanced stop line there for the cyclist, all the aggro could have been avoided if he put himself in the right place or just held back and joined behind the van,
On that road theres several more lights/pedestrian crossings where he could more than likely still got safely past the truck.
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The cyclist is the worst advert for cycling and brings shame on us all
yep I've already got a list of all LGV/HGV drivers in the world and to convince them that all cyclists are really nice people I'll be sending them all Xmas cards personally apologising for all my best mates, bro's and sisters for getting on bikes and daring to ride them in the same universe
thinking of doing easter eggs for taxi drivers
I reckon truck-wazzock has blocked the inside path to the ASL so bike-git has gone around the outside and remonstrated, setting the whole incident off.
I reckon truck-wazzock has blocked the inside path to the ASL so bike-git has gone around the outside and remonstrated,
1. There is no 'inside path' i.e. cycle lane to that ASL.
2. you dont HAVE to get to an ASL, they are there to allow you to position yourself in the centre of a lane through a junction IF you happen to be alongside a vehicle when you get to the stop line. He could have achieved this position in the lane by positioning himself in the centre of the lane BEHIND the lorry.
i think this is a case of 2 bellends squared.
the best place to be it behind the lorry getting a free draft, trying to get past it is just plain daft