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SSSSSSSSSsssssshhhhhhhh 8)

Well it all happened a few weeks back when I was with Taylor and Ian and I was on my wee Inbred 26er and those big wheeled bikes just made sense especially for a big lad ๐Ÿ˜‰

So I procured a second hand Swift frame set last week and I am awaiting bits from my LBS to build it up but don't think everything will be available by Friday but you never know ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:32 pm
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Just having a play sorting out my gear, picked up some food items yesterday, this looks like a winner:

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413kcal for an all up weight of 123g, which includes a plastic fork.

That's breakfast on Sunday sorted then. Pius if I bag up the noodles and sauce in advance I've got a light weight plastic cup/bowl for eating and drinking anything else out of.


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:33 pm
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You kept that quiet Pete! Is that what you want the SLX bits for?


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:36 pm
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I see your logic Nick but I really couldn't imagine eating that for breakfast ๐Ÿ˜‰

@Mark ... should be enough sheltered spots about for a bivvy/tarp. Forecast looks dry for Sat night, haven't seen Sundays yet though.


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:43 pm
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Indeed Steve it is, I am hoping it's going to be a sweet bike for sure, I maybe building it in the back of the van on the way up at this rate ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:46 pm
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You are aware that all Singulars should be built up SS aren't you Pete? ... It's the law.


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:49 pm
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Indeed Stu but I am going to build it 1x10 at the moment and work towards SS. I am hoping it will look like this one ๐Ÿ˜€

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/48247502@N07/5756267024/ ]singularswiftilike[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/48247502@N07/ ]valley daddy[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:53 pm
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Very nice. My Carver's sometimes set up 1x10 (34x11:36) works a treat ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:56 pm
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that's the gearing I am going for too, will I need a chain guide gadget to catch the chain if it decide to jump??


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 9:57 pm
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Right gear sorted.

Clothes - optional daytime
Assos Leg Warmers 117
Endura Arm Warmers 64
Gil eVent Jacket 294
dhb eVent Shorts 174

Clothes - Night time
Lowe Alpine trunks 66
Extremities Powderlite Beanie 21
PHD Ultra Down Vest 152
Socks - long 103
Marmot fleece 3/4 leggings 138
Long sleeve zip neck Merino top - Ice Breaker 203

Cooking
Tibetan 550, Lifeventure 450 mug, Vargo Triad, Livestrong band, Caldera Clone 212
Fruit Shoot bottle - 250ml Meths 233
Tibetan Lhoon 16
Matches, water purification 55

Food
Expedition Meals 2x main, 2x dessert 640
Evening Meal/ Breakfast Pack x2 600
Trail Food Pack x2 1,360

Packs
Wildcat Handlebar Harness 123
Wildcat Frame bag 255
2 litre bladder & hose 167
Inov-8 Race 12 (no internal pad) 424

Personal
Loo Roll 22
Black Diamond Ion headtorch 26
iPhone 4 & case 155
First Aid Kit 27
Insect Repellant 65

Shelter/ sleeping
Terra Nova Laser Photon 860
Thermarest NeoAir Short 261
PHD Minim Ultra 900 372

Tools
Box of spare bolts, disc pads, chain tool 160
Set of allen keys 90
Pump & puncture kit 121
Spare tube 146
Awesome Strap 44
Leatherman 238

Total 8004


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 10:01 pm
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@Ian ... still no maps. I thought you were joking when you said you'd commited the route to memory.

@Pete ... Everyone will tell you you'll need one. If you run your chain nice and short and use an unramped ring you might get away with it 99% of the time, give it a go without, you've nothing to lose.

EDIT: Except your chain (said before someone else does) ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 10:05 pm
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@Pete ... Everyone will tell you you'll need one. If you run your chain nice and short and use an unramped ring you might get away with it 99% of the time, give it a go without, you've nothing to lose.

that's what I thought, plus I have some touch up paint if the chain does jump and decides to scratch the lovely paint


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 10:12 pm
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OK, yes I haven't added in maps. I wasn't entirely joking as there are parts of the route that are imprinted on the inside of my head having looked at the map for so long, but I best take them in case I go off route. I do have a bit of a photographic memory which reminds me, I haven't included my camera, which is something like 350g in its little case.

Also feel like i've over done it a bit on the food. When it's all laid out in the kitchen it looks a lot...


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 10:14 pm
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Is that weight of 255 for the frame bag for a full triangle sized bag? Is that a 'production' one?


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 10:26 pm
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weather is improving, showers now really only on Sunday ๐Ÿ˜‰ fingers crossed they won't appear.

http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/Wales/Machynlleth~2643251/long.html


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 11:04 pm
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It best bloody rain after I just spent out on a tent ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

Mind you, it's all I've got at the moment.


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 11:07 pm
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don't worry I am sure there'll be some damp stuff falling from the sky at some point I just hope it's during the night so you can use the tent Yeti man ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 11:12 pm
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9.464kg all in, bags and everything (not bike or water though)

That doesn't seem too bad to me


 
Posted : 24/05/2011 11:44 pm
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No hot drinks Ian? 250ml of meths is cutting it fine isn't it? Can't you just use the camera on your phone?

My food list is far greater than yours though!. I've got breakfast (50mls) snack (25mls) Lunch (25mls) Snack (25mls) Dinner (50mls) supper (25mls), thats 200mls of meths per 24hrs for my appetite!

I'm waiting for the official weigh in ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 7:08 am
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SouthernYeti, did you still need a pop-can stove, how is the kit gathering going?


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 7:10 am
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1oz = 12.5 mins burn time
700ml takes 10.5 mins to get full boil.

1st day = evening meal, pudding, coffee x2 = 2oz
2nd day = breakfast, tea, evening meal, pudding, coffee x2 = 3oz
3rd day = breakfast, coffee x2 = 2oz

Taking 8oz


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 7:53 am
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Maps & routefinding. What's everyone doing about that then? I'm on chunky paper maps and can't be arsed to carry a map case so will probably photograph relevant bits of the map on my waterproof Pentax as I go along and use that to navigate with.

As for fuel, I'm taking 13 Gelert solid fuel tablets @ 92g (3oz). Each tablet boils around 400ml of water in my MYOG multifuel stove/Snowpeak Ti cup set up ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 9:02 am
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Got my GPS ready to use with personalized WRT map just like trio had last year as back up.


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 9:15 am
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Got them printed off and all on PDF on the iPhone

Happy to share the PDFs if anybody wants them


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 9:17 am
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GPS and printed from Quo on waterproof paper


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 9:21 am
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Garmin Etrex with track + laminated printouts of OS maps (from MemoryMap) ziptied to bars.

When you get to the pub at the end of day 1 you chuck the used maps away rather than carrying them around dead weight for the next 36 hours.

(Of course, a couple of pints of guinness somewhat offsets the ~50g weight saving from throwing your maps away)


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 10:31 am
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DNF - yes, 255g is for a dual compartment production bag. That weight may change though, as I have another bag being made at the moment.

Anthony - hot drinks included in the evening meal/breakfast pack:
Porridge, cuppa soup, 2 tea bags, 2 mini pepperami's, 50g chocolate, 100g cous cous.


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 12:37 pm
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Here's my setup:

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32lbs all-in (no food yet). And all pending inevitable faffing/changes.


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 1:29 pm
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Now that does look well Aidan ... very minimal. Is that everything, no backpack required?


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 2:18 pm
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There is a small backpack packed into it, just in case. But I can carry a couple of day's worth of food in the existing space on the bike.

Happily, it rides pretty much like a bike. The Pugsley with 2 people's gear on it that I rode last time I was at WRT rode like a donkey carrying a submarine on its back.


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 3:09 pm
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Aiden that looks mighty sleek. You know the rules, kit of such loveliness requires a full break down for us to critique ๐Ÿ˜€ The more photos of bike set ups I see, the more mine looks like steptoe's cart.

Food seems to be my biggest downfall, it would seem I'm greedy compared to most.


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 7:56 pm
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Don't worry Anthony i'll be taking a hamper bursting with food. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 7:58 pm
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Printing route onto waterproof paper, 114k for the main loop, 79k extra bit to get everything. GPS loaded, no more work for a few days, bags packed, head to Snowdonia on Friday, before drifting south on Saturday morning ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 8:31 pm
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[url= ]WRT SIR9[/url]Finally.......WRT bike done! Weighed it in as shown, not including the wooden post, complete with 2.5 litres of water and 2 evening meals, puddings,and breakfasts and it came in at 39.75lbs. Add to that my 1.3lb backpack that I will hopefully not need after the 1st day and I think I have managed to shave a good few pounds off last years weight. ๐Ÿ™‚
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Shook it down this evening and it felt good, the only problem I have is with Bottom bracket creak. It has an eccentric BB and I have so far tried building it dry - fail, using PTFE tape - fail and lastly I even tried the carbon / carbon high friction compound - fail. I am now about to try a number of tape options but for all our sakes (If you here me coming it will drive you mad in seconds) if anyone has any successful solutions to this problem I would love to hear them!


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 9:38 pm
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alfachippy - looks really good. Appears much more minimalist than the weight suggests.

EBB - your solution I think it a good coating of the inside of the shell and EBB insert with copper grease, and really tighten up those bolts!

Out of interest - what gear ratio have you gone for?


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 10:47 pm
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wow you all have been busy bees tonight ๐Ÿ˜‰

I'm hoping to have the 29er built tomorrow so I can give it a quick shake down in the evening.

All I need off the Inbred is the seat post so if I fail in the build I will revert to that no problem ๐Ÿ˜‰

Just hoping the frame bag will fit ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 25/05/2011 11:39 pm
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Yes, copper grease (copper-slip) always works for me on ebb's. Worth putting some on the bolts too.


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 6:40 am
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I had pencil cases when I was at school that were bigger than your frame bag Aidan! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 7:57 am
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Did you write my name on it?


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 8:20 am
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All your stuff might be light weight, but just think of it's weight when it's wet with all this rain and the rain forecasted.

Enjoy


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 8:31 am
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Some folk are plenty tough enough to endure the 'light rain' showers that are forecast ... others are better suited to trail centres and motorhomes ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 8:44 am
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Maps sorted just in case I forget my route: 12 double-sided A6 sheets at 1:50k scale - 23g


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 1:02 pm
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Right, final routes plotted and measured. What sort of mileage / total accent have people previously done in years gone by?

Currently standing at about 13000ft total ascent. 120k in Distance missing two grid refs out. Tempting to build them back in.....

Day 1 40k
Day 2 70k
Day 3 10k


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 1:25 pm
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Like how you've mixed your units up there Tiger ๐Ÿ˜†

I've got 161km, 5400m climbing, all the checkpoints.
Note sure on distances each day, but camping on Saturday somewhere between B1 and B2. Sunday somewhere between A3 and B4.
Back from B4 on Monday AM.

Weather seems to have picked up too - might even swap the tent out for the tarp again...


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 1:34 pm
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camping on Saturday somewhere between B1 and B2

Well, we'll see you in the Railway for a pint then ๐Ÿ™‚

That ali turned up and looks good, in fact looks spot on.

Like how you've mixed your units up there Tiger

It's part of [i]"the rules"[/i] distance is always in KM, elevation is always in Feet


 
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