Should I report it to the feds? No one was hurt so seems a bit pointless.
He has a legal obligation to do so, you don't.
I would just make sure you have good evidence of a collision having occurred, with him, at that time and in that place. If he's as good as his word then you won't need it for making good the damage but, as someone else noted, the internet is littered with stories of people suddenly having a change of heart when they find out that repairing a bicycle costs more than a puncture repair kit.
Also don't forget that some damage, whether to the bike or yourself, isn't always immediately apparent.
Yeah, I've got the moment of impact on video, unfortunately you can't see his car on it, in hindsight I should have turned the camera on him before I shut it off.
I can't see it being a huge issue, I don't think the car even touched me, and the back wheel still turned so I'm assuming the frame is ok. Back is a bit sore this morning, going to keen an eye on that.
Need to get me a moped.
With your current run of luck I'd say don't 😯
If you can keep an eye on your back then you must be in a pretty bad way 🙂
Personally, I would want financial compensation at least for repairing/replacing the bike; any kit damaged (including your helmet if it took a knock), plus the cost of your train commutes while your Bizango is out of action (unless your Saracen comes back quicker than sorting Bizango).
I'm fairly sure all my kit is ok because I stayed on my wheels when they touched down again. I'm going to let them off the train fare too as well, because about 5 minutes before it happened I was thinking about getting the train for a bit anyway because the Bizango was too hard work every day.
It's bloomin Madison I'm most miffed about, its' 3 weeks now and I've still got no idea when I'm getting my bike back.
prawny - MemberI'm fairly sure all my kit is ok because I stayed on my wheels when they touched down again. I'm going to let them off the train fare too as well, [b]because about 5 minutes before it happened I was thinking about getting the train for a bit anyway because the Bizango was too hard work every day.[/b]
It's bloomin Madison I'm most miffed about, its' 3 weeks now and I've still got no idea when I'm getting my bike back.
You might want to rethink that if you use London Midland lol
I do unfortunately, shower of shite.
2 carriages on the main commuter train this morning. It was rammed.
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prawny - MemberI do unfortunately, shower of shite.
2 carriages on the main commuter train this morning. It was rammed.
Chase line by any chance?
If so I feel your pain - twice daily, for the last 6 years....
I really should just MTFU and ride the 17 miles to work.
Yep!
I probably see you then. Where do you get on/off? I've been doing that commute on and off for the last 10+ years now, did 18 months on the bike 7-8 years ago then started again 2 years ago. I haven't been missing it.
You should ride it made, it's not a bad ride in. When you dont get clattered.
We could go halves on a tandem 😆
Haha I get on in sunny Cannock - usually on the 06:55.
Urgh, bun that, far too early.
haha, only go that early to avoid the even worse overcrowding later on.
Get off at New Street - If I could find a decent route I'd attempt to ride it.
Best route is down the Chester Road IMO, but depends where you're starting from. I live in hednesford so come down through heath hayes, if you're in Cannock, I wouldn't fancy coming down the Orbital and A5. I've done it before, and going back up is horrible.
prawny - MemberBest route is down the Chester Road IMO, but depends where you're starting from. I live in hednesford so come down through heath hayes, if you're in Cannock, [b]I wouldn't fancy coming down the Orbital and A5.[/b] I've done it before, and going back up is horrible.
That's the bit that scares me - bad enough in a car!
Yeah, don't go that way. Just no.
Took the Bizango to the LBS yesterday, turns out the frame is goosed too, couldn’t even get the back wheel in to help check the alignment. Driver is happy to replace the whole bike which is nice, just waiting for him to send me the cash, then I can get back on the road (again)
Bugger - you don't seem to be having much luck.
Nice to hear the driver is going to cough up for a bike though. What you gonna get?
Shame to read the Bizango is dead!
Are you going to simply wait for the Saracen to be delivered, or get something else to replace the Bizango?
If looking for another bike, what type and what budget?
He's paid me already so fair play there.
I've got to the Mrs P a replacement, the Bizango was passed down to her as a bike she could use when we all want to go out together as well as a spare for me, so it looks like I'm going to spend about £300 on a comfy hybrid then put the rest towards somethin for me.
I'm really tempted to slap it down as a deposit on an Arkose 2 and pay the rest on 0% and then sell the Saracen when it gets back. They are almost perfect, I'd rather have a QR front end so I can use my spare wheels but other than that it ticks all the boxes.
The one thing I would like is room for massive tyres, so I can slot my existing 42c ice tyres in there if the need arises. I spose I could go for something cheaper like a Verenti Substance and use the £500 I'd save to buy some different ice tyres...
Without checking deals out there currently, how about Voodoo Marasa for Mrs prawny and a Charge SS Grinduro for you?
The marasa is what I'm getting. SS is a no go, I'm nowhere near strong enough 😳
Plug might be a goer, I'm on a strict one in one out system at the moment, so the Saracen will have to go if I get something new. I'll probably hold fire until I see what I get back from winstanleys before I buy anything other than the marasa.
The "old" Marasa is now End Of Line, be quick to grab a £320 less BC discount bargain, the newer model is £400 iirc.
You could convert a Grinduro to multi gears with a bar end shifter, cassette and rear derailleur, which should cost less than a similar spec Arkose X (albeit the Arkose has a carbon fork). 😉
If a come across any good deals, I'll post a link.
Cool please do.
Wishlist is room for 42c tyres and guards, hyrdo (or hy-rd) brakes and proper brifters, I'm not a fan of bar end shifters, I tend to be changing gear most of the time on my commute, it's fairly rolling terrain - 1000-1300ft over the 20 miles.
I might fancy doing a CX race in the future too.
Edit - planning to grab a marasa tomorrow.
Edit - Nevermind.
Interesting developments, I had an email from Winstanleys saying they’d received a replacement frame but it was a different colour and am I happy
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Which to me looks to be this frame
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Which is a year older than mine, and has rim brakes.
Anyone else seen a frame this colour but with discs? I pointed this out to them, but haven’t heard anything since this morning.
Confused. Are you saying they've replaced a disc braked frame for a rim braked one?
That's what appears to be happening, the shop haven't built it up yet and I asked them to check it had disc mounts before they started this morning. I've not heard back yet.
If that is the case it's a bit slack, the full bike pictured is the same model as mine, bur from the year before, so they'd be replacing my bike with an even older one.
Still, it might not be the case. But I thought I'd check with the hive mind here incase anyone knew of a disc braked Tenet that came in those colours
Wouldnt worry too much on age of model, but my google skills dont show that model with disc brakes. Could be a proto/one off? Trying to be optimistic for you!
Would be an embarrassing oversight by saracen else.
Yeah, I couldn't find anything either.
It's a bit annoying, because I asked Saracen and Winstanleys a few times what they'd send as mine was discontinued, neither of them would give a straight answer. You'd have thought that they'd at least check that what they were sending would be compatible.
I was also thinking Prototype. We shall see, but their silence isn't a good sign.
I've no idea if they did a disc brake in that livery, but there's no way I'd accept a rim braked frame as a replacement for a disc frame, besides the fact that disc brakes are the future, your original Saracen disc wheels may well not be designed to work with rim brakes.
If Saracen cannot offer you a disc brake road frame replacement, is it worth thinking about asking them for a disc brake hybrid or hardtail, that Mrs prawny could ride (if you've not already bought the Marasa)?
Call them, usually easy to get through and helpful at Winstanleys.
Marasa is ordered but not paid for yet. Should be picking it up tomorrow.
No way I'd be accepting a rim braked bike, I swapped a perfectly good tenet 2 (the same years as the orange one but yellow) for the one that broke just for the disc brakes. I'm won't be over the moon if the swap it for an older model - it's not going to help the resale value.
I'd be over the moon if they replaced it with a Hack, even if I had to pay a bit extra.
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Call them, usually easy to get through and helpful at Winstanleys.
I might do if I don't hear anything soon, although last time I spoke to the lovely Rhiannon, she said it had been passed through to Returns and they would contact me.
Still, in for a penny...
I doubt it's got disc mounts as you can see the brake caliper mount clearly in the seatstay bridge 🙁
Knowing the peeps in there a bit, I'd be very surprised if they tried to make you accept a rim-braked frame.
Most-likely a balls-up by Madison and they're probably waiting for a response before they get back to you.
Yeah, TBF to Winstanleys they've been really helpful, It's just taken a bit longer to get sorted than I'd hoped but I bet they're stacked with Christmas coming up.
Had the news this morning that Madison have just sent an old frame with the same name as mine and didn't check the compatibility.
I'm a bit miffed, I'm looking at another week on the train now. It went back to Winstanleys on the 17th of November so it's taken two weeks already, and now no one knows what's happening.
Yay!
They’ve seen sense and are sending me a Hack frame. Don’t know how old it will be, but as long as it takes discs I’m happy.
My hack from last year has flat caliper mounts front and rear.
Possibly good result with the Hack frame!?
Possibly good result with the Hack frame!?
I'm seeing it as a win.
Interested to see if it's going to have flat mounts or post mounts. Either way I'm looking to get some new brakes, so will see what turns up. Flat mount would make it easier to get hydro discs these days it seems.
Scruff - how wide can you go with mudguards on your Hack? Looking to fit 45s so I can squeeze some 40c conti Nordic spikes in there when needed
I have sks chromoplastics longs, some 38 700c and there is still room possible 42 would fit and a set of 650b 42c and there's loads of room.
Excellent.
I'll order some fat guards and wait and see on the brake front. The picture the sent me is the 2014 one from the bike radar review which has an IS rear brake.
Hopefully they'll post it to Winstanleys tomorrow and I'll get it soon, the train is hacking me off now.
Good outcome. Don't see these as a "result" as such as the pain of the wait and sorting stuff out isn't wanted.
Hack always seemed a good frame so should be a good swap over.
