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It was a pretty clear breach tbh. (though enforcement of the rule sometimes seems erratic, like atherton as you say which was ridiculous- IIRC it was clarified after that?) I thought it was pretty telling of his frame of mind, not a mistake he'd usually make but he just seemed to want to get it over by that point.

Are the overall points up anywhere? UCI still has last year's, I can't be bothered to work it all out


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 4:10 pm
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Northwind - this is where I found 'em: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/final-results-lourdes-dh-world-cup-2017.html

(edit) Times, not points.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 4:12 pm
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The strength of your opinions seems to be inversely proportional to your knowledge of the sport TomW.

Do you just enjoy the attention?

Lol.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 4:38 pm
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Loic's not a happy Bunny

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Posted : 01/05/2017 5:40 pm
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Seems like a tough decision, I'm not even sure he went totally out of the course did he? Just sort of stumbles over the post/tape at the top of that rocky jump.

It didn't help that the marshalls lifted up the tape inviting him onto the course a little further from where he crashed out.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 5:53 pm
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Aye, marshals helped a few riders, riders and marshals should know that's not on...


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 6:06 pm
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They probably do, but when you run up to a crash thinking you might have a casualty on your hands it's quite reflexive to help. Hart and Gwin's crash both definitely qualify for that...

The eyeopener for me was seeing the chainsaw team working on the track during practice, that's as sketchy as it gets.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 6:17 pm
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Why didnt they just start the race an hour early to avoid the bad weather??


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:10 pm
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well, Loic seems to think it was because of the telly broadcast.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:32 pm
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I don't know anything about live broadcasting but I don't imagine it's as easy as saying "let's just move it an hour earlier".


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:37 pm
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Apparently UCI rules preclude the race start time being moved.

It can just be cancelled in the event of bad weather.

Loic's getting a kicking for his comment.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:37 pm
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Loic seems to have forgotten that without RedBull he wouldnt have a DH championship to actually ride in.

For the spectators the rain makes it more interesting. I think its great that the top guys all came 60th or worse.

Means the racing will be way closer now.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:39 pm
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I think it was a bit cack myself, but it's just one of those things.

The keyboard warriors calling him a whiny bitch are probably not realising how motivated he is to get out there and prove himself this season. I'd be a bit frustated too.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:46 pm
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Apparently UCI rules preclude the race start time being moved.

It can just be cancelled in the event of bad weather.

Stupid UCI!!! ๐Ÿ˜ก


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 7:55 pm
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For me it doesn't matter if it was RB or the UCI.

The World Cup Series, like all professional sports runs on money - Redbull pony up a lot of money to MTB, for such a massive marketing machine with fingers in everything (they've got 2 F1 race teams for heavens sake) they give MTB a lot of prominence on their web site / online TV channel. They've been pushing the race for months, count downs running etc.

Plus it's not just the elite men, there's the women and the juniors all having their races shifted.

And they're supposed to shift all that forward, because it's forecast to rain 30-60 mins before the end of the Elite Men's Race in an area notorious for unpredictable weather.

I'm sure he's upset, but it's a MTFU form me, he gets to travel the world riding his bike for decent money, he shouldn't bite the hand that feeds him.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 9:02 pm
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There was a World Cup series before red bull.

Youd read an unintelligible article by Steve Jones about it a month later.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 9:11 pm
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Why would you wait for Dirt when Eurosport were covering the Grundigs?


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 9:15 pm
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I go back as far as the freecaster days myself, but I think my point sticks - someone has to promote and broadcast the thing if it's going to be worthwhile the teams and sponsors turning up to race and paying riders to ride.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 9:35 pm
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But if top rides dont win races , people will stop watching .


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 10:00 pm
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If the season were 20 races long, it wouldn't be such a big deal to have one or 2 where the weather impacts the result. On such a short season you can see why the riders would be frustrated though.

Fortunately it seems to be pretty rare for weather to decide things. Over the last few seasons the course itself deteriorating has been a bigger problem and they've taken steps to improve that this year.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 10:41 pm
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And in this race it will have very little impact on the overall, probably the biggest risk was crashing big.
There are 6 more races to go all most of the top guys went down in poor conditions. Time to move on.


 
Posted : 01/05/2017 10:45 pm
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I can understand why he would be annoyed, but by the time you've reached that level of riding you should realise that you just have to accept whatever the condition throw at you. If weather conditions were having a massive effect on every race then I would agree that something would need to change, but it doesn't.

A greater number of rounds would be good. It's a world cup that only has one race out of Europe. You could have a "best of" points system so then events like yesterday could be scrubbed for those riders who didn't score (or couldn't afford/make a race). You'd get a load of privateers or smaller teams who couldn't travel to South America, for example, but it would give a chance for South Americans who can't afford to get to a race in Europe.


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 12:16 am
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TBH with gondola uplift it's a miracle they don't get more disruption... (I wonder if Lourdes could have run, if it were chair/gondola rather than a funi... Maybe they'd have just got all the riders up before the wind...)


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 12:22 am
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Seems like a tough decision, I'm not even sure he went totally out of the course did he? Just sort of stumbles over the post/tape at the top of that rocky jump...

Sure you're not thinking of Brosnan? Gwin went way out of the tapes and down the slope.

Why didnt they just start the race an hour early to avoid the bad weather??
Or why didn't they slow up in qualifying to get an earlier time slot. Mentioning no names but no need to Gee up for qualis and Atherton of effort . ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 9:14 am
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Alan Milway posted this on FB, interesting to see how the top 10 qualifiers compared (though it looked like the conditions maybe got a bit worse at the very end)...
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Posted : 02/05/2017 9:38 am
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I think its great the rain knocked the top guys down. Makes the battle to win harder and gives less well known riders a chance in the spotlight.

Its mountain biking FFS, weather, trail conditions, mechanicals, crashes all play a part.

If you remove them it would be like road racing ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 10:19 am
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Trimix - I reckon if you watch a road race you'll see that those things have a big impact in road race results too! (Substituting trail conditions to road conditions!)


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 8:49 pm
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So Hart isn't a wet weather riding messiah then?


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 8:59 pm
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So Hart isn't a wet weather riding messiah then?

Stupid post of the day result in early.


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 9:02 pm
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Nick 2 things,

1) twas mode windy with slick rock than wet, nothing like Champery WC.
2) obvious troll is obvious

What @mikesmith says


 
Posted : 02/05/2017 9:05 pm
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obvious troll is...

Haha guilty as charged, but he did fall on the flat bit ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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