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TdF Stage 2: Vitoria-Gasteiz - San Sebastián (spoilers!)

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Can the team really support WvA AND Vingegaard?

How do you support a rider like WvA anyway, his cards are well and truly marked by the rest of the peloton now, so he would need a mega lead out train, but then, he’s not a pure sprinter so would he even be in with a chance in those stages that suit having a lead out train?

Otherwise you end up with stages like today where WvA is there on his own merits of being a sprinter who can also hold on in the climbs, which means half his supposed lead out probably hasn’t, but the remaining competitors know just to lean on him. He’s probably lost enough one day races for having done too much chasing to keep making that mistake again.

The suggestion is that Vingegaard could have taken a pull and helped close the gap to Lafay without any detriment to his own result.


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 9:49 pm
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The suggestion is that Vingegaard could have taken a pull and helped close the gap to Lafay without any detriment to his own result.

Aye fair enough, I was somewhat lazily and incoherently referring to the larger team situation rather than the specific stage. Could Vingegaard really have put in a significant pull at sort of sprint leadout pace though? I thought it was generally acceptable for GC contenders and climbers to stay out of harm's way at that point (Pogacar being the obvious flaw in that argument!)


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 10:02 pm
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(Pogacar G being the obvious flaw in that argument!)

and that was for another team 😉

his TT would suggest Jonas is quite useful on the flat.


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 10:19 pm
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WTF? Some people need a good shoeing

https://twitter.com/L_Calmejane/status/1675549208974176257


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 10:33 pm
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WTF? Some people need a good shoeing

Agreed but thank God for tubeless!
It's the mechanics I feel sorry for, having to sort out 20 odd tyres with tubeless setup before tomorrow.


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 10:36 pm
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Also, where was MvdP today, is he just holding out for the TT?

lead out man for Philipsen tomorrow, why burn matches today when your job is tomorrow


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 10:42 pm
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How do you support a rider like WvA anyway, his cards are well and truly marked by the rest of the peloton now, so he would need a mega lead out train, but then, he’s not a pure sprinter so would he even be in with a chance in those stages that suit having a lead out train?

lead out trains? what year is it? and he won on the Champs-élysées in 2021

he should have just let today go, all he ended up was going too early and leading out Pogacar for 3rd and bonus seconds


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 10:51 pm
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Vingegaard did a couple of impressive pulls leading out Christophe Laporte at the Dauphiné this year. I guess the difference there being he didn't also have to keep enough energy in the tank to cover 300 attacks from Pogačar.


 
Posted : 02/07/2023 11:43 pm
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