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TdF Stage 17: Mont Blanc -> Courchevel

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Wout out

He's definitely not a team player: Selfish bastard has just wrecked ny fantasy team because his wife is going to pop a sprog. Putting himself first again 🙁


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 11:51 am
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^ I went to the Tour of Flanders in April and rode the 90 mile sportive. There were fit club riders flying past me all day but the next day the pro men rode nearly 300km at an average 3 x my speed. If those fit club riders had been up against the pros they’d have been passed all day just like I was.


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:03 pm
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GCN posted this overnight, enjoy!


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:12 pm
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I’m not saying that anyone is wrong but comparing the time gaps you expect in a normal 22km time trial to one with a cat 2 climb in it isn’t the way to win an argument

That's an entirely fair comment. There's still been some quite extraordinary performances though. We're almost getting used to seeing stuff that until recently we hadn't seen in the modern era.

Personally, I don't worry about it too much and it has been very entertaining. I also think discussions on here are generally quite balanced.

If there was foul play involved I'd be fascinated to know what it is and how they get away with it.


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:21 pm
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I have no idea what power output I have,  but I know it would be a fraction of what they did in that video.


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:34 pm
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YOu only have to compare it to 'flat' rides that we or anyone here mostly does.

If you can ride a flat route and average 20mph, you're pretty bloody decent for a normal person... They'll average over 30mph at that sort of stuff even solo. That's 50% quicker !


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:37 pm
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Yep,  when you see the kmh shows on screen for the tour it still amazes me.

Speeds most people would do in a car and they are doing it on bikes


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:39 pm
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Is Hank a former pro? I thought that was the enormo-tall fella, Hank’s just a ‘good club level’ cyclist. Happy to be wrong though, and +1 to the rest of your post

I think he was in a team but not like a world team pro. I was pretty pleased that he got the same time as me up the climb - I totally misspaced it - dying at the end.

In other news I see that Jumbo and UAE got extra blood test doping tests. IIRC they don't normally do the blood testing during the actual race, just the pee testing. So I guess someone in the TDF circus raised an eyebrow.... (and if there is one thing the TDF is not short of it's people who 'know' about doping)


 
Posted : 20/07/2023 12:39 pm
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Did no-one see the interview with Pog's DS (i think that was his job)? Basically he said they knew before the tour that he wasn't fit - the performance director was certain of it. But they thought "we'll just go and see what happens"


 
Posted : 21/07/2023 9:19 am
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Did no-one see the interview with Pog’s DS (i think that was his job)? Basically he said they knew before the tour that he wasn’t fit – the performance director was certain of it. But they thought “we’ll just go and see what happens”

Sure but what else was he going to say?


 
Posted : 21/07/2023 9:52 am
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Anyone watching the Tour De France Unchained on Netflix?  Gives a seldom seen insight into the riders, team tactics and what really makes them tick behind the scenes.


 
Posted : 21/07/2023 9:56 am
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Normalised Power on some of the rolling flatter stages, hidden from the wind, is lower than people think (and I had that data from a well-known pro who did rather well). A decent Cat 2 cyclist could sit in the bunch. Once it goes uphill, things will change significantly.


 
Posted : 21/07/2023 1:47 pm
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