Forum search & shortcuts

TdF Stage 17: Mont ...
 

TdF Stage 17: Mont Blanc -> Courchevel

Posts: 10541
Full Member
 

Wonder if Yates can get into second?


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:52 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Pogacar could drop off the podium here. Potential for Yates to move up to 2nd.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:53 pm
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

Yates (UAE) could be second in the back of this


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:53 pm
Posts: 28593
Free Member
 

How much does Pog have over Yates on GC?


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:53 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

About 8 minutes


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:54 pm
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

Lots of minutes,  so pog would have to totally blow up


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:54 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

There's 12km to go, almost all very steep uphill.
Pogacar could easily lose 8+ minutes on this one.

At the moment, the Kuss/Vingegaard/Yates group is not going full gas - if they open the taps, Pogacar will lose time hand over fist.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:55 pm
Posts: 5689
Free Member
 

He's lost 40 seconds in 2km thus far


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:56 pm
Posts: 569
Free Member
 

There's a 6km descent @crazy-legs .


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:56 pm
Posts: 10541
Full Member
 

Yates is 8'52" back on JV but only 7'04" behind pog I think..


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:57 pm
 SSS
Posts: 730
Free Member
 

Team Juiced-Up Visma on the rampage....


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 4:58 pm
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

This is not normal!


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:01 pm
Posts: 569
Free Member
 

Kuss only lasted a few Km.

Adam gone from front group, Jonas is solo on the stage win hunt now. 2m35 to catch Gall with 4km of Loze to go, then a decent, and a little ramp at the finish.

Reckon Jonas for the stage win.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:01 pm
Posts: 5689
Free Member
 

Looking like you're riding a motorbike up a 20km alpine climb has historically never been a great look for cycling 😕

Edit: Ving has taken another minute on Pog in the last km! He's only taken 20 seconds on the front of the race though.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:02 pm
Posts: 16175
Free Member
 

This is not normal!

Glad its not just me who thought that. Yes you can go one day hard, but 2 days in row at that level ??


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:03 pm
Posts: 10499
Free Member
 

Anyone remember the last Dane to do this kind of thing


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:03 pm
Posts: 16175
Free Member
 

Looks like he might be on Viagra looking at whats going on in his shorts (not that I was trying to look) 😂


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:05 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Simon Yates going well, second on the road!

I feel so sorry for Pogacar. No-one needs a camera on them while they're suffering that much. 😥


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:09 pm
J-R reacted
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

Come on Simon Yates


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:09 pm
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

Oops dead motorbike


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:09 pm
Posts: 10541
Full Member
 

carnage!!


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:10 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

****ing motorbikes and spectators and traffic. 🤬


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:10 pm
leffeboy reacted
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

Surely he can't do this


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:11 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Hope not, I want Simon Yates to win!


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:12 pm
 ctk
Posts: 1811
Free Member
 

Poor Pog.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:13 pm
crazy-legs reacted
Posts: 33240
Full Member
 

Anyone remember the last Dane to do this kind of thing

It's sad that we are thinking that


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:18 pm
Posts: 5831
Full Member
 

Dammit,  wanted Yates to get that


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:24 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Good win, well deserved.
Glad that JV didn't get it.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:25 pm
 dazh
Posts: 13393
Full Member
 

Think Vingegaard could be the most unpopular winner of a bike race since Vinokourov won the London Olypmic road race 😀.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:33 pm
Posts: 27603
Free Member
 

I'm waiting for @weeksy to spit his dummy 🙂

Vin wasnt as dominant today, the front end was quicker he was out of it on the last 500m, and scraped over the line.

Poj looked a mess though*, he's gone and I'm sorry about that I would have preferred the excitement and I feel for him that whatever he's suffering from its affected him so badly, he tried but not a great way to bow out, I'm sure he would have preferred to have lost by a second or two having made a good job of it, if indeed he had to lose.

*I bet he still wet up their faster than any of us could dream about.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:39 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Think Vingegaard could be the most unpopular winner of a bike race since Vinokourov won the London Olypmic road race 😀.

Many years ago I was out at the Tour ta Malta (a really rather amateurish event but one that got a lot of Brit riders cos it's early season and generally good weather) and they ever so proudly announced their Special Guest [dramatic pause] MICHAEL RASMUSSEN!!!!
The organisers were SO proud of this.

Everyone else gave a proper slow clap and there was a small chorus of "doper!"

😂


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:39 pm
Posts: 20677
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Poj looked a mess though

Yep, properly bad day out, I think he did his best to hide it but then that was it.

Feel really sorry for him, the constant camera on his suffering. You kind of just want it to cut away and leave him be, maybe give him a hug and leave him to it. Poor guy.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:43 pm
 dazh
Posts: 13393
Full Member
 

whatever he’s suffering from its affected him so badly

A clear case of trying his best to compete with someone 'on another level'. Make of that what you will.

On another note if Wout wants to maintain his superhero status he might be well advised to get out of that team.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:46 pm
 Spin
Posts: 7808
Free Member
 

Anyone remember the last Dane to do this kind of thing

He didn’t do anything, Pogacar just blew up.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:54 pm
 Spin
Posts: 7808
Free Member
 

A clear case of trying his best to compete with someone ‘on another level’. Make of that what you will.

Or a clear case of having a couple of bad days. That happens, it doesn't mean the other guy is cheating. Especially not when one considers the long season and injury disrupted preparation Pogacar had.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 5:57 pm
 Spin
Posts: 7808
Free Member
 

On another note if Wout wants to maintain his superhero status he might be well advised to get out of that team.

Maybe there is no doping and he knows it or maybe he's doping too? I mean, a big lad like him, a proper roleur setting the pace in the mountains day after day, that can't be right either can it?

Speculation is stupid.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:02 pm
Posts: 3073
Free Member
 

Great stage win for Felix Gall, but you know deep down AG2R will be thinking "still not French though"


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:03 pm
Posts: 886
Free Member
 

Three weeks riding has really taken its toll on Pog.  As for Vingo.......I think it is for his own good that he actually tied up bit at the end.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:03 pm
 DrJ
Posts: 14051
Full Member
 

Think Vingegaard could be the most unpopular winner of a bike race since Vinokourov won the London Olypmic road race 😀.

How so? He's trained for one race all year and his sacrifice has (apparently, we'll see on Sunday) paid off. In interviews he seems like a pleasant bloke, so I'm not sure where the animosity is coming from.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:11 pm
lucasshmucas, J-R, sboardman and 1 people reacted
 SSS
Posts: 730
Free Member
 

Or a clear case of having a couple of bad days. That happens, it doesn’t mean the other guy is cheating. Especially not when one considers the long season and injury disrupted preparation Pogacar had.

Yeah, its not like hes just wiped the floor with the other 150 or so either. Puts is a stellar performance AFTER a stellar performance, whilst racing FullGas from the start to give us the fastest Tour to date 😀

Nah, hes not cheating, no suree Lance Vingegaard 😉


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:13 pm
 dazh
Posts: 13393
Full Member
 

a proper roleur setting the pace in the mountains day after day, that can’t be right either can it?

Possibly not, but knowing his history and abilities I think Wout's had quite an underwhelming tour this year. Even as a domestique he's not been at last year's level. I think the key thing here is the relative performance of Vingegaard and everyone else. Is it likely that this year all the other top contenders are so far behind him when previously they weren't?


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:15 pm
Posts: 2298
Free Member
 

Vin came in nearly two minutes after the stage winner, yet people are acting like he blitzed everybody.

Today was a terrible day for Pog and a good - though not exceptional - day for Vin.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:20 pm
J-R and Kryton57 reacted
 dazh
Posts: 13393
Full Member
 

yet people are acting like he blitzed everybody.

He didn't need to blitz everybody today to raise suspicions, he did that yesterday. Today just underlined them.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:34 pm
Posts: 10541
Full Member
 

Think it was the way he set off when pog popped. He was going at a right rate up that hill, he slowed down towards the end though so maybe it isn't all that obvious.


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:38 pm
Posts: 3323
Full Member
 

Still, great result for S Yates

And A Yates looking solid for 3rd which is nice as I have an e/w on him for GC at 50:1


 
Posted : 19/07/2023 6:40 pm
Bunnyhop and J-R reacted
Page 2 / 4