[Closed] TDF - I Dont think Cav had a good day yesterday ANGRY CAV

I don't think Cav is going to win the green jersey this year! My gut instinct tells me he doesnt' have the killer driver like Hushovd does (who I think is quite sexy in an odd way). Without getting into a Cav personality debate it's a shame as he is such a good sprinter! I also think he'll quit the tour when they hit the Pyrenees as he's a bit "all or nothing" and since it's looking like a "nothing" he'll go.

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Ha ha. I particularly like the bit where he throws his helmet out of the bus door (not).

What an insult to people who actually have to pay for their cycling kit.

Nope, not feeling insulted in the slightest.

To be honest, I'd rather we had a few more sports men and women who got angry and showed it when they don't succeed at the very highest level, rather than the bland also-rans that seem to comprise the vast majority of our representatives in various sports.

[i]What an insult to people who actually have to pay for their cycling kit.[/i]

really? I don't feel insulted.

He's clearly passionate about what he does and was angry he had failed. It may be a bit immature but he's only young.

Ditch_jockey... thats why I like CAV, he may have a attitude but that attitude makes him a winner.

He's a sulky little child isn't he!!

Can't see him even winning a stage based on yesterday's performance. Didn't seem to have anything left in the tank to win it.

Did anyone read bikesnobnyc today? Not sure where else to put this but it's great:

[i]"So for Jens Voigt fans, hearing him complain about some pavé is surely like going to see Shakespeare in the Park only for the guy playing Hamlet to announce, "It's too damn hot for this shit, you can all go **** yourselves."[/i]

Petulant brat

[i]What an insult to people who actually have to pay for their cycling kit[/i]

seriously? is this what you think? *shakes head*

Don't get me wrong, I quite like Cav really and "his" book is a good read, but that stunt was petulant and childish.

And regards being insulting, what if you were a kid watching that who's worked hard doing your paper round or whatever for weeks in order to save up for your £150 helmet, then you see a pro just chuck his on the ground - I don't think it sets the right tone.

seriously? is this what you think? *shakes head*

Yes

I think you're trying very hard to feel insulted...

That's Cav isn't it. When he's on form, that's part of what makes him so quick. When he's off form like now, it makes him look childish but frankly who's perfect...

it's no worse than footballers in the world cup faking injury to get someone sent off and kids take a ;lot more notice of footy than they do cycling i'm sure....in fact it's not even in the same league, Cav gets angry because he wants to win, it's not cheating, lets hope he puts that anger to good use in todays stage

please, someone just think of the children.

I think a professional sportsman who knows there are cameras around should be able to act like a grown up. I'm not insulted to the point where I'm going to write letters in green ink, but like I said, for a person in his position it is poor form and he could/should do better.

please, someone just think of the children.

Please someone, just think of a better cliche

I think that's very odd.

There's always riders 'disposing' of their equipment like that! Millar threw his bike over the barriers a couple of years back, Bradley Wiggins chucked his wheel off the side of the road, even Chavanel just dropped his bike the other day when changing for the 48th time.

I like Cav's passion, it's a bit childish, he didn't perform, no one else to blame, but it's not remotely 'insulting' to people who buy their kit! Anyway you don't really seem to mean insulting, more that it's a bad example, in which case there are still other better examples. Tom Steeles throwing his waterbottle at someone in the sprint Robbie McEwan(?) headbutting someone. Cadel Evans.

Please someone, just think of a better cliche

Sorry but it was you who used the cliche "think of the young lad on a paper round" so yeah, please think of a better cliche.

but it's not remotely 'insulting' to people who buy their kit!

I think it is.

So there we are, you don't, I do.

Edit - hang on, I'm thinking about my correct use of English

Why is it insulting? You've given examples of it being a bad example, how is that an insult? I just can't see why anyone would be insulted. Think he's a ......, maybe, but not be insulted!

I'm no Cav fan, but I think throwing your helmet (oo-err missus) is quite acceptable after his performance yesterday. He really really wants to win and didn't, better to throw a helmet than do something stupid in the sprint today

saw an interview with (I think) rob mcewen/an straight after the race, and also one with hushovd just a little while after

both talked openly & sensibly about the whole thing - RM how he was hurting and just didn't have the power, TH about how he & cav found themselves at the front too soon & couldn't go again

weird, it was like watching grown-ups

I'd still make him go to bed with no tea.

He certainly won't win today then!

Who was his lead out man yesterday? he gave all he could, but I thought some of Cavs anger was directed at him.....poor sod.

Why is it insulting?

I thought I'd explained why I think that?

Maybe contemptuous is a better word? I just don't think it's right to trash stuff on purpose, particularly in full view of people who might not be able to afford the stuff you are trashing.

has anyone heard Cavs interview after yesterday? calm, relaxed, thanked his team, said they did a great job, congratulated the winner, just said he didn't have it. totally reasonable.

What I don't understand is that if he's lost his lead out men (and the HTC team is a bit light on them this year) why doesn't he just sit on Thor's wheel instead?

You can't be such a prolofic winner without emotion in your body to drive you forward, be that in training or during a race. Sometimes that oveflows...

So are you all learning Flemish now? da's wel tof

Cav seemed pretty gracious in apologising to his team for not bringing their effort home. He's always bigged up his performances as team efforts, which is good.

To be honest, I get very angry when I f*ck up, especially when it's wasted other people's efforts, and I have been known to throw a bike from time to time.

I'm not petulant or childish tho.

What I don't understand is that if he's lost his lead out men (and the HTC team is a bit light on them this year) why doesn't he just sit on Thor's wheel instead?

Thor doesn't want to let him sit there?

I'm sure he was calm and reasonable later on. But he still needs to control his petulance when things aren't going so good.

Insulted - no, bad reflection on him and his sponsors - yes, redemmed himself in the interview but how many people will have seen that?

Just out of interest, I once threw my Turner 5 Spot into the heather when I was knackered at the close of an unexpectedly long ride, after catching my front wheel for the umpteenth time on rocks I'd normally negotiate without a moments thought - is that insulting to people who have to buy their kit too?

My wife did suggest that I bring along one of the little square tables from IKEA next time, as that is my favoured target for frustrations when I'm at home - I think the count is 3 so far.

Cadel Evans no there is a rider that i feel insulted just to look at
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Petulant would be bitching at a person. Taking it out on inanimate objects such as your kit is not great but not petulant either I reckon.

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but it's not remotely 'insulting' to people who buy their kit!

I think it is.

So there we are, you [b]all[/b] don't, I do.

Fixed it for you.

is that insulting to people who have to buy their kit too?

Depends. Was there a crowd of onlookers and a TV crew?

But on the IKEA table front, I would suggest that on the spectrum of self control, you are not in the middle.

Cavendish needs to grow up and stop throwing his dummy out of his pram hes acting like a total dick, you would think he would realize he cannot win every sprint FFS, makes entertaining viewing though! 😆

My wife did suggest that I bring along one of the little square tables from IKEA next time, as that is my favoured target for frustrations when I'm at home - I think the count is 3 so far.

I can honestly say that I've never in my life lashed out at anything through frustration. You worry me slightly!

It's OK Kingtut, I've never been bothered about being in a minority. I just say what I think is right.

It's not right/wrong, it's your opinion. But it's wrong 🙂

cav is brilliant. if only for the way he gets you lot wound up.