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[Closed] Swapping an X0 rear mech to a shadow/ clutch thingy

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I have an SRAM X0 9 Speed Rear Mech - Redwin ( blackbox tech ) and am thinking of changing to a Clutch type as I'm running a 1 x 9 with an 11 - 34 cassette
one of these on offer atm on CRC
Shimano Saint M810 Shadow 9 Speed Rear Mech

will it be compatible with my X0 shifter? Are there better options/ rear mechs or should I just get something like a Bionicon V 0.2 chain-guide to run the chain through.


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 12:16 am
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All the clutch type mechs- shimano shadow plus & SRAM type II mechs are 10 speed only, so you could have to change your cassette, shifter etc at the same time.
9 speed shimano & SRAM aren't interchangeable, due to different cable pull ratios.


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 12:29 am
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I thought the SRAM mechs were supposed to be good for controlling chainslap anyway ?

(and I don't think shifter will be compatible with either 9 or 10sp shimano, as catfish says)


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 12:55 am
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Thanks for the replies STEers..I was basically thinking of a shorter cage so that its tucked out of the way a bit more. I don't or haven't really suffered from chain slap etc up till now but I plan to do more aggressive riding ie. Snowdon this year as well as a couple of trails in Wales & the lakes etc. Didn't really want to encounter a problem when its too late to do anything about it like when I'm halfway down a mountain. Fit and forget piece of mind has to be worth its weight in gold or not?

Suggestions? Stick with what I got + a chain-device possibly?


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 11:14 am
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I just did the swap you are about to do. You will need to change to levers though as 9 speed Shimano pulls a different amount of cable to the SRAM.

I love my new Saint 810 mech though. It holds the chain much better and moves quicker than the X0 9 speed I took off. Be warned though.... it is a bit of a lump compared to the X0 mech but I like the fact it is solid and a looks a bit less delicate. Saint 810 you can get in short or medium cage, I went for medium which is about the same size as a medium SRAM.

I've never used a clutch mech though so I can't advise if that difference is worth it enough to spend the extra on 10 speed parts


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 11:40 am
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and yes, if you are looking for total reliability chain device + bash is definitely the way to go. I have a Gamut double on mine which works pretty well but the set up was a bit fiddly


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 11:41 am
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will a short & medium cage both do the same job regardless of cassette size?


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 3:03 pm
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I'd be interested in the mech and shifters if you do decide to swap email is my stw user name at hotmail dot com.


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 3:17 pm
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tymbian - the length of the mech arm dictates the range of gears that the mech will cope with. the medium saint just works with my double chainring set up (36 - 22 up from, 11- 34 at the back with a chain device to take up some of the slack) but it wouldn't cope with a triple I dont think.

I am not sure but I think the short cage would only really be suitable for a single ring set up.


 
Posted : 08/01/2013 3:52 pm