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The handicap thing is interesting, as someone not bothering the front either way it has seemed to balance out and dispassionately it seems to have fairly consistently got everyone within a range of 5-6 minutes which is pretty good going. A tweak here and there might be appropriate but I'd not go too nuts on it.
On the TT, everyone should have a TT bike in their garage though so it's just a reminder to people at the start. We can all go from the start for a fixed distance biggest question is are we doing club 10 or a 25?
A tweak here and there might be appropriate but I’d not go too nuts on it.
Oh yeh pretty happy with it for Bs and Cs. There just isn't enough As to get a critical mass to really stretch that gap out so need to bring them closer to the B and C times. I think the same is true for the Ds as there is only a few of them so again getting a big group and getting the speed advantage isn't happening.
Tempus Fugit is made for TT isn't it?
I do feel for those "A" riders putting all that effort in for not much reward. But as you say it only needs a little tweek to get it closer and give them a chance of a win.
At least this first series has given a good indication of how to make it even better for the next, it was close Robbo, you did a good job with no prior information.
Summit finish...please no Ventoux or Alpe! Eek!
Well i don't know about you fellas but i need a complete re-think on just about every aspect of my riding/training/racing for the next set in the series. To say i've been disappointing is a complete understatement. Apart from race 1 which went OK i've completely under achieved in my targets, goals, wants and wishes.
I think the biggest issue is that my training and racing are a lot shorter in general so i'm hitting 25-30 mins and that's it, i'm done, out of there. So need to concentrate a lot more on longer and steadier efforts with possible thoughts of intervals within it to allow for kicks on hills.
Last nights race i was chatting mid race saying i was on the limit, i'm not sure the boys believed me, but i was up around 176bpm. I recovered back down to 163 from there, which is OK, but then back on the way up to the line i've got 173 on the HR and there's not a lot left for the hill by then, so i can't kick on again up the incline.. So how and what, i don't really know yet, but i need to stay out of Crit City and into, well, something more like the racing we do together.
Second step is to drop some excess weight, but i'm not sure how realistic that is.
I'll set something up for next Tuesday same time. I think I've got most STW people following me but if you don't get an invite and want in shout.
Invite has gone out, if you're not invited and want in then follow me, if you can't find me then give me a shout on here.
The sprint sessions were good fun. Plus will provide the interval training Weeksy needs 😃 Everyone should try to get on Discord tho like with the TTT, makes for better bants!!
I’ve done a few sprintalozas I think they call them, good fun and everybody can just put in an effort as when it suits them. I’ll be up foR jumping on the occasional Tuesday but whilst there’s a break in between series I’m also going to ride Out as and when weather and opportunity allows.
@Weeksy, I know where you are coming from, as I was the same. All I can recommend is getting involved in the longer events and include the climbing, I can definitely see my improvements by doing this.
I like you would love to lose some lard to help on the hills, it's hard to see people putting out less power and shooting off up the hill, especially on the Alpe, but it is what it is and up to me to get weight off if I can stay away from the bakery counter 😉
Join the Sunday hills when you can, put in hour efforts rather than the short sprints, but you know all this! For sure you have the power as I know you would floor me on a crit, it's just sustaining it now for longer efforts, especially on the inclines.
It was good training for me to do the Zwift Academy at the weekend, the workout was hard and I wanted to quit at times (but glad I didn't), the Sunday ZA group ride was basically a race at 3w/kg. I'm definitely out of my comfort zones on these and sometimes just hanging on but they seem to be helping me to improve. Perhaps try them yourself?
an awesome final race. Was nice to do something fairly flat to really test that endurance! Annoyingly I only managed 3 of the 6 races, but had a ball. And was well chuffed with 3rd in last nights race once the handicaps where added.
Also chuffed to finish 14th with only doing half the events.
I was in the same group as Robbo, oopnorth etc and really enjoyed the pace and digging deep to stick with it.
Good times had by all! Roll on the next series!
I can't make next Tuesday's ride but look forward to joining in with other rides in the future. 👍
Def at least 1 summit finish for the next series. TT is a good option but difficult to manage as you need everyone to turn up on a TT bike.
Easiest way to run a tt is for everyone to just enter one of the existing tt events that run as that means the timings will be easy. There will be others on the course but as it's a tt it won't influence the results. As has been pointed out everyone has a tt bike in the garage to use.
Summit finish would be ace. The obvious one is the alp however if we could run the same innsbruke loop we did last time, only put finish at top of the climb (not sure if that's possible), that would perhaps lead to more exciting racing than a race up the alp, which would just be a 50 min tt/power to weight test (which would probably suit me tbf!)
Volcano after party of Leith hill after party are good hill top finishes. There is also one in France where 2 Laps would go up a medium climb 3 times with finish at the top.
There is also one in France where 2 Laps would go up a medium climb 3 times with finish at the top.
Roule ma poule. 2 laps is (too?) hard. 1 lap maybe not enough.
Two laps is a bit evil yes.
Shame we can't do bologna, that would tick both boxes
Shame we can’t do bologna, that would tick both boxes
Seeing as we can't I can say yes it's a great shame safely in the knowledge that it can't backfire and get scheduled.
The majority of the hill top finish events are race only though so aren't available in meetup.
But I can cut short certain routes so we could do a race part way up the alpe and stop halfway up or something. Just need to adjust the distance and see where it would get you. So that opens up quite a few route options.
As long as I know where the finish is...last night that blue banner caught me out, I was expecting it to come after the lap banner..doh!
As long as I know where the finish is…last night that blue banner caught me out, I was expecting it to come after the lap banner..doh!
You need to keep an eye on the bar at top of screen that tells you how far you need to go!
You need to keep an eye on the bar at top of screen that tells you how far you need to go!
If you can, you need to pedal harder!
Shame we can’t do bologna
We could do it as a tt if we all entered one of the official events. I reckon a flat tt would be a better option personally, but I'd not complain about bologna, it's given me my best tt results by far.
Given innsbruke is a loop can't we just start and finish it at a different point...granted the first 6k would be downhill!
You need to keep an eye on the bar at top of screen that tells you how far you need to go!
Usually I do but last night I was concentrating on trying to keep with the group out of the tunnel and got sidetracked...hence missing the sprint.
So with luck you're all recoveredid from Tuesday's exertions and looking forward to filling your Tuesdays with beer and cake for a few weeks.
A huge thank you to everyone for taking part, I missed a couple but really enjoyed the ones I did and I'm genuinely disappointed not to have made the last two, though I can't see they'd have made any odds to my points it would have been good to see it through and to race on my home turf in Harrogate.
Our find raiser has manged a bloody brilliant £400 for Cardiac Risk in the Young so a huge thank you to everyone who has not only chipped in but also anyone who, by presence in the races alone, has made it something worth using as an excuse to put hands in pockets.
Raise a glass to yourselves, one to Robbo and imbibe enough calories to make sure the last 6 weeks of hard work haven't left you in calorie deficit.
Cheers all and thank you!
£400! Great effort. Take a bow Robbo. Couldn’t compete in all races but genuinely felt my Zwift subscription was worth it for this alone.
Just a quick update then folks :
£403 raised in all, after card fees £382.79.
Donation now made to Cardiac Risk in the Young for £383.00
Thank you all and well done!
Well done all! That’s a good haul