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Got a frame off the classifieds on here (cheers Rob!)
Just need a gear outer and my build is finished. Can't wait to ride it!
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Hi all, been a while since i've been on here, thought i'd answer a few of the questions that've recently been asked.
Stooge fat is the same geometry as the ti, i've recently finished the final drawings so its ready for production but no timescale set yet,i may well invite pre-orders in the next couple of weeks or so and see what happens, but at the moment i'm working on the gen3 frame and another model which seems to have taken priority. The one downside of being a one-man-band is a complete lack of a Trek sized budget for new models 🙂
Alfine? Yes, the cable routing is all in the ideal place for this, it'll work a treat. I'd recommend a 32 tooth chainring and an 18t rear for goood mountain bikey useful ratios. A mate of mine is building one as we speak.
Rear clearance on a MK2 will happily swallow a 24 Ardent on a Rabbit Hole with good clearance, whereas the MK1 would be too right with this setup. If you can get a MK2 it has infinitely better clearance on the rear. B+ didn't exist when i designed the first frame, but the second frame was specifically redesigned to be able to run a 27.5x3 with excellent clearance. B+ pretty much transforms the bike though, turns it into a bit of a nutter.
What differences will the mk3 have? and when will it be available?
The geometry will be the same on the MK3 but there will be a larger size too, for the very tall. I'm finalizing the drawings at the moment so haven't got the ball rolling yet, so at least 6 months away. Brexit has also has a somewhat drastic effect on the value of the pound which has had a pretty big knock-on effect to prices,so at the moment its a case of looking at costs and working a few things out, maybe play the waiting game a while.
Wait - so in total three models in preparations? 😆 Would be happy to replace my mk1 frame with something having a bit more rear clearance... and it would be a bit more easy to find a good dropper post 🙂 I understand that no way before end of the year?
Interested in the planned seat tube ID - any considerations to use 30.9 or larger on mk3 and/or fat?
What would be the rear dropouts in fat? What spacing?
And (!) what is the third model taking a priority?
Very excited to see what's coming next! Wishing you all the best Andy.
Does anyone know if there's any off the shelf frame bags that fit the Stooge nicely? If not, does anyone have the dimensions to hand for Alpkit?
Beth at Wildcat gear can probably make you one. They made one for Andy.
Mine.
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There will be a 29+ frameset coming from Stooge in the spring, working name Dirt Tracker, it's a completely new design with bi-plane forks and promises to be 'rad'. Drawings are done, production starts very shortly.
- Andy @ Stooge Towers
Can't wait to see this! Do we think the bi-plane fork will be the same as the Ti design?
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So my stooge arrived yesterday 🙂
Starting to build it up now but having seatpost issues 🙁 my dropper isn't long enough.
Straight Thomson will have to do until I get something else in layback.
Was anyone else nervous about running a post above the seatstays?
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My Stooge all built up with Gusset lofty, 450mm post sits just under seat stays.
Really pleased with the ride.
How tall are you shep?
I'm just over 6'2" with a 35" inside leg.
Really like it.
Set up with 90mm stem over 45mm spacers, 23degree bend bars.
A lay back post would be nice but can't find one long enough.
Wow, that's a very long inside leg you have 🙂
Are your bars the Salsa Bend ones? I tried those - and liked them - but the Moto's are the dogs, and help a tall rider's riding position (I am 6'3") and although I managed (lay back seat post, 90 stem with Moto's), the bike really was too small
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Here's mine, just because I love riding it.
This are a hugo 52 with fat b nimble 29x3.0 (realy it,s 29x2.8)
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Guys - Andy is teasing Fat Stooge here and there.
Yep and I wish he wouldn't 🙂
Christmas coming an that.
Please let's see pics of Fat Stooge
don't shoot me But ive had a little ride one it 8)
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Hi
Looking for a Stooge Mk2 frame and fork. Not too concerned about the paint condition so long as the frame and tubes are straight without dents etc.
I have a basic price in mind, so will be interested in what you might have and what parts you will include, such as headsets, stem, seatpost, bars, BB etc and hopefully we can reach a price we both like
Look forward to hearing from you
you can mail at dalhalvaig at gmail dot com
Thanks
Almost finished, it,s B+ but finally i think it will go 29+
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Of those people running a dropper post, how have you run the cable?
Trying to find the best way to avoid it rubbing against the frame
Jagwire do some natty little alloy stick-on cable guides that run perfectly under one of the top tubes, you can pick them up on ebay for about a fiver, i'd start there.
My steel frame weight about 3k, what about the ti frame?
Anyone out there thinking of selling their Mk2?
Let me know on dalhalvaig at gmail dot com
Cheers
D
Took delivery of my new stooge mark 2 in blue last week, used my shonky 26" singlespeed as the donor along with a spare pair of wheels from my croix de fer (19mm internal width so should be OK).
The things I needed to buy were the tyres and a bigger rear cog - a two one ratio is a touch too tall for me. I even managed to get an old pair of 26" stans tubeless rim strips to fit and got the new maxxis high roller/ardent combo setup tubeless first time. I've ridden it twice on my local trails and really like it (apart from the EBB coming loose on my first ride at the furthest part of the woods from my house and me not taking Allen keys with me).
Just a few queries about bars and stem setup as I've tried 2 different setups on my 2 rides and neither allow the front wheel to be lifted particularly easily whilst riding, it is manageable but compared to by 26" Soul the Stooges front end is considerably heavier and I would like to lighten it without ruining the geometry plus I don't have the funds to keep buying bars and stems in the pursuit of the ideal setup.
I'm 5'11" with long arms and a 33" in seam.
Tyres are 2.25" ardent at the rear and 2.3" at the front.
Setup 1. 685mm EA70 low rise monkey bars with a 70mm stem and 25mm of spacers. Too narrow for cranking up hills singlespeed and the front feels glued to the ground.
Setup 2. 760mm Gusset low rise bars with a 60mm stem and 25mm of spacers. This was better for climbing and feels a touch lighter to steer but also a touch more vague in feel when riding single-track. I'm thinking of using the Gusset bars trimmed a touch and ordering a cheap 50mm stem but has anyone tried a 40mm stem with risers?
The stooge motobars look awesome so might put them on the Christmas list, again what size stem have people used with them?
I'm just wanting to know what people who are a similar height to me are using and what they found didn't work.
Although I'm enjoying experimenting with my new toy I'd like to find the best setup sooner rather than later.
Ian
The 800 wide Moto's will transform the ride
As for stem, 50 should see you right. That's what my mate runs on his, at 5'11"
Plus a lay back for more weight back. Purrfickt
Cheers bonesetter, I'll scour eBay to find a cheap 50mm stem and start dropping hints about the Motobars to the wife.
Longterm I'd like to try 650B+ wheels and tyres but they'd be a bit spendy at the moment.
Hi Ian, i'm 5'11 and i use Moto bars with a 50mm stem on my main ride and its perfecto. 29er wheels will always make the front feel heavier to lift, with B+ the difference is quite pronounced, have you checked out the Alpkit wheels, sub £200, a real steal. The sweep of the Moto bars also puts your weight slightly further back and helps to keep the front light and skippy. But of course, i would say all this 🙂
I have never run Stooge with 50mm stem yet, but instead I've installed 35mm from day one (1y ago) and I was never considering trying something longer.
Especially in 29+ setup Stooge is very nimble at low and high speed yet still keeping its stability. There is no significant wheel leap effect which contributes greatly to that nice feeling. I am able to clear steep climbs while seated without front wheel popping up. I make a weight shift on the climbs of course, but nothing dramatic.
in 279+ setup I am running currently - there is some geo change I can feel as less neutral steering, but still the effect is very small and climbs are fine.
Overall I could safely encourage you going my path 😉
Thanks for the advice. I'll be buying a set of B+ wheels and tyres and Stooge motobars next year and I'll have a look at the Alpkit wheels although I might just rebuild my hope hubs off the Soul into new rims. I've currently settled on the following setup for my Stooge and think it rides fantastically.
29er front and rear (maxxis 2.30 high roller front and 2.25 ardent rear).
Singlespeed 34/19
170mm Middle burn cranks
40mm stem
30mm spacers
760mm mid rise riser bars
SDG saddle and seatpost
EBB rotated down and back (having a half link chain has helped to achieve this) keeping my weight low and back for better balance and weight off the bars.
I've tried lots of different bars and stem combinations and the current ones fitted are in my opinion the best so far, the steering feels fast almost telepathic yet the riding position is quite relaxed a little bit like my old 2010 Orange 5 but without the squish or should that be squash (sorry).
My Cotic Soul now feels too low at the front and really twitchy compared to the Stooge, my Soul has 760mm bars, 70mm stem and 120mm forks and I've ridden all sorts on it as it was my sole mountain bike (I did have a single speed mountain bike, I don't count that though as it's had a child seat on it for the last few years), I never found my Soul lacking before owning the Stooge.
I'm really enjoying the Stooge at the moment especially in singlespeed mode and has helped me recapturer my love my mountain biking, every ride I want to see what else I can ride on it - the steep drop off here the tricky muddy climb with a double step there. I'm pleasantly surprised what I can ride on it, it's also my 1st 29er which I was quite negative towards previously.
Top job Stooge.
Is it possible to run fat bike wheels in the mk2 frame?
No, if you want to fun fat bike wheels in a stooge you'll need the stooge fatty bike (which is ace) or talk nicely to andy and go down the custom route
Thanks - no worries. Already have a mk2 and loving it. Will stick some 3" tyres on and see how it goes.
Do you work for MTBR?the steering feels fast almost telepathic
I have a 3.8 Hodag B+(+?) up front with a 3" B+ rear. Best combo I've tried on the Stooge. Needs a different fork as the Hodag wont fit in stock
Haha! No! It's just how I think it feels, I had a shot my Soul last night and it just felt all wrong, the steering felt like it flopped from side to side, the stooge feels so nice when I corner that I find myself weaving left to right when even riding along a fire road. It has so much feel that it was encouraging me to push hard in the corners so it drifts a little bit knowing I can catch it before drifting too much.
It's just fun, simple no nonsense fun.
put mine back to single speed last night. I had a 1x11 XT setup lying about, so I fitted it and did a good ride. whilst it was nice, I preferred the look and feel of it being a singley. so, armed with a glass of whiskey, a quick visit to the man cave, she is back to being uber sexy. hopefully get some quality time on her this week.
Pics or didn't happen 🙂
Hi
Still Looking for a Mk2 if anyone is looking to sell
Can contact me on
dalhalvaig at gamil dot com
Cheers
D
Fancy some carbon wheels for your Stooge? Selling some on the classifieds
At the link below is a pic of my Stooge this morning. I've just completed 9000km on it according to Strava. Taken 17 months. I still look forward to getting out on it and come back with a smile on my face. A couple of mates rode it over the last couple of days and i rode one of their bikes. Both came back reminded of how good it is and I was reminded why I haven't looked at another bike...except a Mk2...if anyone's got one
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Ben H on here had it before me, so probably over 10,000km by now...is this a record?
Boring question, which has no doubt been answered several times in this thread already, but, will the mk1 take B+ in the rear?
Core, mine is running Nobby nic 2.8s on alpkit wheels alright. Not masses of mud room but it's ok. Going 1x should help me out a bit too.