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[Closed] stolen Occam, Ikley (2 hours after delivery by TNT)

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Had this delivered earlier today...

https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Orbea/Occam-M30-Mountain-Bike-2022/VE68?id=1464718

mulbery orbea occam carbon large

(Big birthday present to self. Fancy purple pedals arrive tomorrow. Unfortunately within two hours of delivery it had been nicked from by back garden - gate was bolted and it'll have only been visible from upstairs neighbours' windows. It was propped against the wall of the back reception room i was working in interviewing so rather focused. Drew the curtain when the sun came out at about 15:00, bike still there. By 17:30 the bike was gone, garden gate wide open. Neighbours saw nothing, and were about in gardens some of the time, reported to police obv. No idea if home insurance will pay, but I really wanted to ride that bike! Somewhat in shock.)

So if anyone sees anything...


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 7:59 pm
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No help to you at all other than to say that’s so bad. Hope you get a decent outcome from police or insurer.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:11 pm
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Cheers. No one's hurt I guess. (Yet...)

Will bump this a couple of times over the next week


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:31 pm
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That's terrible. Poor you.
Really hope you get insurance cash.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:41 pm
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Sorry to hear that. Quite a few credit cards include insurance against theft for a certain period after purchase. If you paid by card, worth checking whether that might apply.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:42 pm
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Bank transfer on account of upped online security...


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:45 pm
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Thats a bit shit for you, but what is the relevance of TNT in the header? Are somehow thinking it was related to the delivery person/company?


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:45 pm
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Thats a bit shit for you, but what is the relevance of TNT in the header? Are somehow thinking it was related to the delivery person/company?

I'd imagine there is a strong possibility that a bike being nicked within 2hrs of delivery could have something to do with the bloke (not specifically the company) that delivered it


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 8:48 pm
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If mods want to edit the header that's fine if anyone wants to report it? Was posting in shock. Though if it draws attention - others report similar following delivery? All highly unlikely but you never know - is that a bad thing?

I also name Sigma who couldn't take my card payment (two calls to the bank couldn't resolve from their end) but were otherwise great.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 9:09 pm
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something to do with the bloke (not specifically the company) that delivered

Probably not the bloke as he will still have deliveries to do but if I was investigating this, I'd like to see what calls he made after he collected the parcels for the day then check to see if that number pinged off a mast close by your house.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 9:09 pm
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Probably not the bloke as he will still have deliveries to do but if I was investigating this, I’d like to see what calls he made after he collected the parcels for the day then check to see if that number pinged off a mast close by your house.

McGee will get right on it Gibbs.

That's rough luck fella. Hope it shows up.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 9:17 pm
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Yeah. Tough luck indeed.

I assume you'd be advising your insurance company - if they specify a bike needs to be locked to something immovable - that it was locked to a tree/fencepost/drainpipe etc.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 9:37 pm
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assume you’d be advising your insurance company – if they specify a bike needs to be locked to something immovable – that it was locked to a tree/fencepost/drainpipe etc.

why would you do that, it’s fraud.

That’s really shit for OP, but having lived up that way I would never ever leave a bike unattended in my garden. Especially for 3hrs !

Could have been someone just passing who saw a great big bike box being unloaded. All they had to do was open a gate and walk off with it


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 10:29 pm
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McGee will get right on it Gibbs.

Unfortunately, the chances of it being properly investigated are very slim as its low value (to the police) and no other damage done (so low risk) unless there's been other reported thefts just after a delivery in that area and the police put 2+2 together.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 10:36 pm
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That was kinda the point of my post.

You expect alot of a stretched police force to try and dig up that kind of information over a bike. A murder yes. Bike theft not so much.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 11:05 pm
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^^^for sure I was totally complacent and am beating myself up with the things I should have done differently. I was literally the other side of a window 1m away when it was nicked, but in a work tunnel. Garden gate is kind of like a door in a fence you can't see over, and was bolted (but you can kind of poke your hand through.) Anyway, there's always an outside chance it may turn up.


 
Posted : 24/03/2022 11:55 pm
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why would you do that, it’s fraud.

You might not have to. Technically, you were in range, you had bought a new bike, you were building it and you took a call, you went inside, you weren't gone long and you weren't far away. It wasnt left, you were just pre occupied.

I guess it depends on the insurance company, my insurance is anything over £1000 needs to be named. Good luck.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 12:13 am
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Just to confirm OP, you were in the house when it was delivered right? Did you speak to the delivery driver / sign for the bike, or did they just open the gate themselves and drop it off for you?


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 8:04 am
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kin ell

I think of my back garden as a private outdoor room. thats a shocking invasion of privacy.

hope you get a resolution


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 8:10 am
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I think of my back garden as a private outdoor room. thats a shocking invasion of privacy.

Yep, but it’s West Yorkshire. You’re belongings aren’t yours if you leave them in reach of others. Theft here is silly.

Regardless though, it really sucks. Hope you can get something out of it OP.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 8:40 am
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Hell, that's a tough situation, and if this really is just an opportunist peeping over a garden gate in a relatively low crime bit of West Yorkshire at exactly the right moment, that's incredibly bad luck.

I can see how it's hard not to apply <cough> Occam's Razor to the situation.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 8:58 am
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Id think it was someone following the van rather than the van driver (or his mate).
Don’t know the layout of your street, could it have been obvious to an observer that you received this large box and then left it in the garden rather than taking it inside?


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 9:16 am
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Anyone on your street with cctv/doorbell camera?


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 9:19 am
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It may also be possible for it to be covered under a "contents in the garden" section of OP's contents policy. Limit will be low, however. If you need any help with the insurance side, feel free to share what policy you have and I'll take a look.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 9:32 am
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Yep, but it’s West Yorkshire. You’re belongings aren’t yours if you leave them in reach of others.

and this is so so true. you can not leave anything at all unless it is chained/bolted down.
how sad is that to think of the place you have chosen to live as such.

thieving bastards should have their ****ing hands chopped off as punishment like they do i some other countries.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 9:39 am
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Jesus that’s terrible.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 9:50 am
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Jesus that’s terrible.
You could contact TNT and ask them if the delivery guy noticed anything suspicious.
Subtle way if tell them what happened without accusing the guy.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 9:51 am
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Subtle way if tell them what happened without accusing the guy.

What happened is about as likely to do with the delivery guy as an asteroid strike.

Stuff gets nicked from gardens up and down the country thousands of times a day. It's sad but the chance of this being anything more than a toe rag spotting it being carried in or poking their head over thy fence is slim.
For it to be anything to do with the driver they'd have to know it was going to be unboxed, taken into the garden, left unattended and coincide with the same time the op was on a call and he happened to come back.

Otoh, sticky fingers on the way home from the bookie walks past, figures the weather is good so chances are people leave stuff like bikes in gardens, looks in them all on his way home - not that difficult to see over a 10' fence unless it's razor wired at the top - spots OP's bike, doesn't see op and thinks it's their lucky day.

Sure it might have been the tnt driver but given that the second option is common and the first is less so, chances are it's the second.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 10:09 am
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Thanks all for the sympathy. Replying as this is back at the top, will bump in a few days. Not optimistic, obviously.

Equally obviously I feel like an utter idiot and am replaying the many things I should have done differently, that's a given. Fwiw it's a small fully enclosed back garden and you'd have to be 3m tall to look over the gate, hence (false) feeling of security. You can see through the jasmine on the fence if you peer.

This bike cost more than twice any of my others, and I'd not yet put it on the insurance. (I'd twisted a cable in haste and was going to have to redo the bars before first ride.) The max it could be covered is £2.5k and I doubt I'll get that as I will basically give the same account I gave the police and on here. Hey ho. Even if I wanted to lie, I doubt my wife would approve and frankly I'd rather lose £4k than risk that. Trouble is that in the time it took to unbox I'd fallen in love with the thing...

Anyway, I've rejoined Facebook for marketplace, will be keeping an eye on eBay etc. And, er, that's it I guess. I'm still in denial, anger and the rest to go. Like I say, no one's hurt. It's only a bike 😭😭😭😭


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 10:30 am
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Anyway, I’ve rejoined Facebook for marketplace,

On the up side it having no pedals means you'll probably buy it back for £10 because it doesn't work.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 10:32 am
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I'd stuck some wrong colour flats on though 😱


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 10:33 am
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Probably not been nicked then, it'll have vaporised in a moment of karma.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 10:42 am
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Make sure you set some alerts up on stolen-bikes and https://findthatbike.co.uk/

A few members on here have been re-united.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 3:28 pm
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I'd be suprised if no-one has seen someone walking with an expensive bike, I'm assuming you hadnt put any pedals on it as yuo were waiting for fancy bl;ue ones.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 3:35 pm
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Might be worth asking TNT if they have dashcam footage so you can see the person who nicked it walking past


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 3:45 pm
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cheers for the findthatbike link - done.

had just chucked some white plastic with pins old DMRs on it and done a once round the block (I know), and fiddled with the dropper - enlisting help of guys at wheelbase over the road as I'm scared of droppers and internal cables. I will contact TNT, can't face it atm frankly as still in denial. Keep looking out the window expecting it to have come home.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 3:54 pm
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are there any traffic or street camera's locally. or any neighbours got cctv.

may be worth a try.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 4:22 pm
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Hopefully it’s just a lucky idiot who’s taken it and offloading it for a few quid, sounds like it as daylight with owner on the property, and a new bike that’s not being advertised points to this.

Police are useless unfortunately, best bet is getting the description out there to bike groups on Facebook, here, etc.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 4:22 pm
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Yep, but it’s West Yorkshire. You’re belongings aren’t yours if you leave them in reach of others. Theft here is silly.

Balls! Maybe where you live, but certainly not all of it!


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 4:27 pm
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Ahh, you've just got nowt worth nicking 😉


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 4:40 pm
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Brother in laws flatmate had his road bikes nicked from outside their flat door, but they were stored behind another door that only accessed their flat (effectively a porch), so seemed most likely someone had delivered something and clocked the bikes.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 4:41 pm
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Gaar, that's terrible! I'm in Skipton so will keep an eye out.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 5:02 pm
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Get along your road and see if there are any RING or similar doorbells pointing at the street.


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 5:21 pm
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Get along your road and see if there are any RING or similar doorbells pointing at the street.

It’s Ilkley so bound to be 😏


 
Posted : 25/03/2022 5:42 pm
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Long shot, but it's not this one is it?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/orbea-occam-H30-full-suspension-bike-2021-edition-/324934626490?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

New. Rode once. New eBay account. Says they have the paperwork, maybe yours has the receipts in the box?


 
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