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Hora, your spending FAR to much effort on this, your argument fails, end of. go and ride your bike.
Ah! That wasnt on the bikeradar review 😕
they are priced for what the market will stand (in their view), if it does not sell it will come down. From the sellers point of view if SRAM can keep the price and it is seen as must cudos item, selling less will make more money. Like the idea of 2x9 must get on to middleburn.
Ah! That wasnt on the bikeradar review
So you made a damning statement involving 18th century manufacturing techniques about something (eg it shouldn't take 9 hrs to machine) that you know nothing about. I guess that I shouldn't be surprised really, should I... 😈
Just to upset everyone even more re prices, the complete group with Sid XX's is only £2900ish 😯 😀
clubber, are you making me back-pedal by any chance? 8)
Bargin 🙂
I'm going to give it a go with 2x9 - 24/36 chainset and 11-34.
I'll be interested to see how well the 2:3 ratio works on the chainrings (I know that it won't have XX's double shift gates) and how well it works in real life since I currently use the middle ring for most stuff with occassional forays into the middle and granny rings. I guess that I'd now be using the granny ring more for climbing.
I'm not making you do anything Hora. You're making yourself look like an idiot all by yourself.
Someone will buy it...
Idiot? Make an assumption based on the information to hand?
The Bikeradar article alludes to replaceable rings:
[i]Those with worries about the durability of an aluminium rear cog will be relieved to hear it can be replaced individually.[/i]
They wont be top end racers either. There'll be a fair round trail centres..Someone will buy it...
"They wont be top end racers either. There'll be a fair round trail centres" so when are you placing your order then.......
lol
Manchester Trev, I still own one of the first Saint cranksets when they came out years ago so you'd probably have quite a wait if I did..
Well the 2009 S-Works Stumpy will come with it, so it's clearly not just pitched at racers.
You can guarantee it'll open the flood gates for companies like Ibis, Cannondale etc to realease crazy light 'trail' bikes using it.
The Bikeradar article alludes to replaceable rings:
No, it quite rightly aludes to the biggest sprocket which is made of alumninium being replaceable, not the whole lot.
From the article:
Like SRAM's road-going Red unit, XX consists of a nickel-plated CNC-machined 4130 chromoly 'dome' – reportedly requiring nine hours each just to mill – mated to a 7075-T6 aluminium backing plate.
Those with worries about the durability of an aluminium rear cog will be relieved to hear it can be replaced individually. In theory it should last longer than a conventional middle chainring since it is likely to be used less.
[url] http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/sram-unveil-new-xx-mountain-bike-groupset-21756?CPN=RSS&SOURCE=BRGENHOME [/url]
Grrr.. must stop rising to the bait... 👿
given its already hideous price tag, why is the cassette not Ti?
the alu bit will be the two biggest sprockets i imagine, they wear pretty slowly normaly, but guess without a granny/middle ring they may see more use with people determined to keep it in the big ring.
On a side note, whats the biggest granny ring you can buy off the shelf?
i'd be tempted by a 28-38 setup and DMR make a big ring for it. Guess I could use a roadie tripple minus the big ring, works for Nico!
You can get 4 bolt 30t granny rings (and 5 bolt) for road touring (have a look at SJS cycles)
Only the largest sprocket is alumninium with the rest of the cassette (except the lockring/smallest sprocket) being a hollow steel cone with teeth on (sort of) making it very light (lighter than it could be made of conventional Ti sprockets apparently) but still as hard wearing as a normal cassette.
I can't be bothered to look but I am *almost* sure if you were able to search the (old) forum you would find more than one post from Hora arguing stuff (particularly secondhand) is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.
I can't be bothered to search though. But it would confirm the deep feeling of irony I have about this thread.
I am sure the point has been adequately dealt with, but in case it has not:
[b]Hora. You do not need this groupset. It will not improve your riding significantly. Some people's maybe a bit. You, not so much. [/b]
😀
Cheeky Monkey, depends if Im selling its worth more than RRP naturally...if Im buying it needs to be cheaper than the seller is selling for.. 🙄
Bigdummy STOP SHOUTING. Even a 15hp engine strapped to my bike wouldnt improve my riding one jot.
BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED BORED
anyone else?
I love you Manchester Trev, proper manlove, like Dibnars piston/steam engines. None of this girlyman love.
please don't ever say that again.
"Yep - I heard they were going up 10 - 15% on shimano again"
Really? Where did you hear that? A bloke in the pub?
Is it even that revolutionary?
Ten speed has been [s]bodged[/s] done on MTBs before.
The cranks plus BB is 694g, a little more than a Middleburn Duo plus Controltech Comp Carbon-Titanium BB.
A mid-range SunTour front mech from the early 90s weighed in at 114g vs 118g for the XX.
...etc.
Ten speed has been bodged done on MTBs before.
Ritchey in 2000.
The cranks? Aluminum core with carbon wrap.