[Closed] SRAM RAIL....FAIL....what next? (Warning Canyon content)

Yep, no rims listed as spares. Welcome to factory wheel sets

Personally I wouldn't potentially waste good money re building what sounds like a set of wheels you know are on there way out, maybe invest in some quality hubs, perhaps DT240s & choose a rim more suited to your riding style weight & area you ride.

I'm running DTs on i25 KOMs as a second set of 650Bs but had a moment of madness a while back & a set of Roval Fattie SL Carbon wheels are being thoroughly enjoyed, half the cost of Enve's & a year In no issues.

I've not found anything to beat the traditional 32h normal spoked wheel build.

Will light bicycle drill a rim to your chosen pattern?

I've not found anything to beat the traditional 32h normal spoked wheel build

This. Open Pros on your favourite hub.

P.S. can we blame SAP for this...

Yes, they would supply 24h rims as a special order but I'm sceptcal about throwing good money after bad, I've picked up some hope 4 hubs (32h) so am currently looking at rim options (would like light bicycle rims but can't quite convince myself price wise ) so more likely dt Swiss, ex471 maybe?

An alpine road trip? 823s on ProII Evos - almost bulletproof and you'll not worry about a bit of extra weight. Especially for the £150-200 a 2nd hand set with cost you. I bet the unobtanium SRAM rims would cost that much.

No, an Alpine MTB trip, to include the Mega (Road Trip as I'll be in the Van) 😉

oysterkite - Member

so more likely dt Swiss, ex471 maybe?

Sounds pretty sensible. Just got to decide where your weight/strength/price compromise is. Worth checking out the WTB offerings too, I was pretty taken aback by how tough my Frequency i25s were. (they're heavier than the DT option IIRC but ridiculously dent resistant)

Factory wheelsets can **** off, essentially. Proper normal hub, proper j pull spokes, rim of your choice.

Agree re 24H on LB rims, quality is a issue with products emanating from China, I worked there for 10 years & though a lot of companies are in Joint ventures the Chinese then proceed to copy said companies products, without success, in the end we binned most of the parts we received & made sure our procurement department only purchased from genuine OE suppliers.

On that note, remember the Top gear China special ?? how would you your BMW X5 sir ?? while wearing your laybans

On one had some i25 KOMs rims in their sale a couple of weeks back.

Sell them. Buy some wheels that you really want. Take a spare set of wheels (not just rims) to the Alps.

Easy when you think about it.

flap_jack - Member
I've not found anything to beat the traditional 32h normal spoked wheel build
This. Open Pros on your favourite hub

oysterkite - Member
No, an Alpine MTB trip, to include the Mega (Road Trip as I'll be in the Van)

Exactly what I was getting at - the sort of offroading that requires a pretty solid set of wheels and where weight will be less of a disadvantage if you're mostly using chairlifts and tough rubber. My 823s have endured at least a month of proper Alpine DH without any adverse effects. Try that with the latest Enduro fashion bling or LB Carbon set.

Oh just realised you're 27.5 - ignore me then - you're screwed.

So ordered a set of hope Pro4 & DT Swiss ex471 through Moonglu who will build,they fit the bill I reckon and I can easily source spares, still think the Sram situation is a bit rubbish, especially as the wheels just got reviewed in mbuk, I'd be even more annoyed if I'd bought the wheel set as a stand alone item.

[i] still think the Sram situation is a bit rubbish, especially as the wheels just got reviewed in mbuk, I'd be even more annoyed if I'd bought the wheel set as a stand alone item. [/i]

Pal I was riding with a couple of weeks ago broke a spoke in his Mavic's, he said he'd have to send them back to Mavic for repair...

Although getting spokes for my straight pull Hope's is a pain, at least you can get them (and get them replaced easily locally).

Pal I was riding with a couple of weeks ago broke a spoke in his Mavic's, he said he'd have to send them back to Mavic for repair...

He may be on the MP3 insurance scheme?

I know my LBS can fix mine and I've had a spoke fitted to my old Crossmax SX at short notice by a shop in the Alps in the past too.

Agree re 24H on LB rims, quality is a issue with products emanating from China

Yay, indiacrimate bullshit about "Chinese stuff being dodgy", really helpful that. But you once broke something made somewhere in Asia you say?

China is a small town near Grimsby with one factory that makes things I think so it's pretty reasonable to tar all their products with same brush.

njee20 good to hear from you, it's been a while,

Work for me is engineering, Oil & gas offshore & a platform consumes vast amounts of materials, when you rely heavily on quality to give you both the reliability & most importantly safety from a product then, the decision was taken by the operations manager of the Oil company (Devon Energy Panyu field) namely to procure OE spares.

After we eventually replaced the failing items the platform uptime increased drastically, re quality were talking simple things like Record vices for work benches, castings being so bad the Chinese smoothed them over with car body filler & painted them Blue as per Record's original colour, PSV's Pressure Safety Valves so poor the castings were porous, not good on a 10" gas line with 80 bar in it.
V belts for our Utility Air compressors stretching like elastic bands, bear in mind the compressors feed air to the critical control valves on the platform, safety systems etc were talking peoples lives at stake here then it becomes a serious issue, have you ever walked round the back streets of a Chinese city seeing sweat shops turning out crap dangerous products huh, as for supply chain management when a company operated in China certainly offshore it's 51 / 49 % Joint venture in our case with CNOOC, the state run Oil company & you are forced to accept there terms & conditions, we eventually persuaded them that the only way to safely operate the platform was by going with OE parts.
I'm sure you will reply with yet another of your usual put downs eh...

So basically you're saying that your supply chain management are utterly incompetent and shouldn't be in charge of sourcing plastic geegaws. Let alone heavy industrial equipment.

The stuff we get from China is pretty much identical to the stuff we get from Europe, and better than a lot of the stuff we get from the US...... but then the supply chain is managed.

Nearly all the parts on 3 of my bikes came from the far east. Not sure if i should replace having read this..

I too work in oil and gas and the quality of things from China (and I mean quality in the strictest sense, not "looking pretty" etc) is lower than from other areas. Certainly I wouldn't put down "Asian" things - you're talking Japan etc also in that case, and I have heard of very dodgy things happening in the UK, but generally speaking, Chinese stuff tends to have a lower level of quality.

njee20 good to hear from you, it's been a while,

I didn't know we had previous. You obviously post daft stuff often

Work for me is engineering, Oil & gas offshore & a platform consumes vast amounts of materials.

How many carbon rims?

philjunior.

Good to hear from a fellow oil & gas worker, where are you working? totally agree re Asian products, not all bad at all, you've only got to look at the quality of Japanese cars & bikes which I love though far too old to enjoy nowadays, cramped riding position old knee's !

We had Kawasaki Gas Compressors in Nigeria driven by Solar Mars units & they were excellent, the Japanese engineers I met & worked with were smashing blokes.

The feeling I had as I left China was that it was expanding industrially so fast there was a lack of highly skilled labour to keep up with demand for the factories.

You do realise that cf manufacture is exactly the opposite of highly skilled.

But oil platforms?! Engineers?!