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Lets speculate away,
Cheap(er) 1x12 for the masses?
2018 product release?
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2018 spec. I read it will be OEM only for 2018 but I dont suppose it will be long before you can buy it aftermarket
You can already spec it on the new SC Nomad
GX Eagle 1x12 was specc'd on the SC Nomad 4 Carbon C bike builder the other day but now removed.
I saw some leaked photos on pinkbike before they were taken down. As above it's 1x12 with the same range as X01, just at a cheaper price point.
Announcement must be very soon with production parts floating around and ibis/santa cruz both displaying it on their builders.
Makes you wonder what shimano are going to have to bring out to compete!
Makes you wonder what shimano are going to have to bring out to compete!
Maybe they won't bother. As much as I love the XX1 on my bike, when I need to replace the cassette, chain and chainring, I'll be considering XT if I keep in mind the cost of a XX1 derailleur. The price disparity is very hard to ignore, and I'm sure others will think the same.
Makes you wonder what shimano are going to have to bring out to compete!
They will release a front derailleur that you can operate with the power of your mind.
wrecker - MemberMaybe they won't bother. As much as I love the XX1 on my bike, when I need to replace the cassette, chain and chainring, I'll be considering XT if I keep in mind the cost of a XX1 derailleur. The price disparity is very hard to ignore, and I'm sure others will think the same.
Surely a GX cassette then? Lighter than XT, keeps the 10t and no change of freehub, for pretty much the same cost as XT. I think they last much better than XT too.
I'm running GX cassette with XT mech and shifter on my newest build, best of both worlds.
No great urge to go 12sp, seen a few references to Eagle's finnicky set-up recently.
2018 spec. I read it will be OEM only for 2018 but I dont suppose it will be long before you can buy it aftermarket
I guess someone who should know better was telling me porkies then? 😉
Lets speculate away,
Do you need to speculate? Surely it's a bit "Ronseal" isn't it?
Cheap(er) 1x12 for the masses?
Surely not? 😉
No great urge to go 12sp, seen a few references to Eagle's finnicky set-up recently.
Only slightly more so than 11spd SRAM. BUT... Once setup correctly, it's fantastic! Shifts are slicker than with 11spd, and believe the hype over the cassette and chain longevity, seriously! BIG thumbs up from me on that respect...
believe the hype over the cassette and chain longevity, seriously! BIG thumbs up from me on that respect...
How many miles have you put on it?
Surely a GX cassette then?
Thanks! I'll look into that.
I'm running GX cassette with XT mech and shifter on my newest build, best of both worlds.
Ha, I'm running the opposite, FML!
They will release a front derailleur that you can operate with the power of your mind.
They pretty much already have that with Di2....
How many miles have you put on it?
About 600 so far, so less than the factory Jackson review, but sill on the original chain and it's nowhere near stretched to 0.75% yet! Cassette looks almost new!
Put that into context with 11spd X1 and X01 I've also been running, been lucky to get 350-400 miles per chain (sometimes less).
Well my 11sp GX has done 3,700km so far in all weathers, 4th chain now (one got mangled when I snapped a chain ring) so if the performance is like that I'm happy.
Probably need a new jockey wheel in the mech but that is about it.
If there is a good deal on eagle I'd probably move the 11 onto the second bike and put 12 on the main one.
Talks of OEM only are frankly bollocks. 😆
Most of the original 11sp GX went OEM pre sold. Was actually a bit tricky to get it when it first came out.
£170 and 450g for the new cassette.
Think I'll stick to 11 speed.
Full groupset SRP £425 (GXP Crank)
Chain £25
Cassette £170
Shifter (Grip or Trigger) £30
Rear Mech £93
GXP Crank £107
BB30 Crank £123
£170 and 450g for the new cassette.
Same weight as an XT M8000 11-46...
Available for pre-order already!! http://www.tweekscycles.com/components/groupsets/sram-gx-eagle-groupset
First look on singletrack Facebook page (live video) now
Same weight as an XT M8000 11-46.
but arent xt cassettes a third of the price!
They'll probably sell for closer to £100, but your point still stands.
[url= http://www.mbr.co.uk/reviews/groupset/sram-gx-eagle?utm_content=manual&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_term=mbr ]Small possibility I've known about this for a while, but couldn't say anything until officially announced![/url] 😉
It'll be even better when CRC stock it and I can use BC discount
Most of the original 11sp GX went OEM pre sold. Was actually a bit tricky to get it when it first came out.
Having penned the order for a good proportion of the UK aftermarket hopefully this wont be the case this time 😆
Cassette weight is decent, real world sale price looks like it'll be reasonable... Total win, really. I don't really care about 12 speed, I just want the 10-50 range but unless Shimano wake up and do something unexpected, this'll be on all my bikes I reckon
You certainly wouldn't want to be running stretched chains on them but overall it's quite reasonable. No need for me to swap now but might in the future.
So as a massive SRAM hater, but currently running X11 on my new bike. i am actually converted. Will be buying as soon as I can. Has the range i want at an acceptable price point. Be interested to know if the 50t alloy ring can be replaced when teeth wear/snap.
prawny - MemberYou certainly wouldn't want to be running stretched chains on them but overall it's quite reasonable.
I was pretty skeptical about expensive cassettes after years of £40 xt but they really do last better- in fact I don't know how much better because I've not managed to wear out my X01 yet. I think it's actually going to work out not much more expensive in the long run (and definitely cheaper than XT + an expander)
Just bought 11 speed parts, thinking of sending it back and waiting for this now....
Be interested to know if the 50t alloy ring can be replaced when teeth wear/snap.
The casette is all steel .
Imagine if Bird got hold of this.
Would be pretty damn exciting.
The casette is all steel .
Not according to the singletrack video review and launch by will its all steel other than the 50t... or have I miss heard
The big cog is aluminium.
It'll all be pinned together as a single item, i believe
Knew I wasn't going mad! Thanks
I followed the OPs link and it says the casette is stamped steel pinned together .
Check here for more details. It's 11 steel and 50t alloy
http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/sram-trickles-1x12-technology-to-gx-eagle/
I noted the chain:
Nickel plated outer links
Black Oxide finish for inner links
I reckon that's going to rust like a bastard at the first sign of moisture...
Overall it's clearly intended to steal the march on shimano offering more range and more clicks, but reading between the lines it's built to hit a price point and it's not going to be light, I would rather settle for an 11-46 cassette, and one less sprocket at the moment...
I'm sure that'll change within a couple of years though.
Christ this is annoying! I've spent months agonising over 11 speed choices with Kryton-like levels of indecision, ordered it all last week and now this. Really didn't think Eagle would drop to GX level so soon at such a competitive price with so little compromise. If I send the 11 speed back will cost about £150 more to go Eagle (although I do prefer Shimano cranks). Is it worth it and am I patient enough? Hmmmm
Just buy the shifter, mech, cassette & chain then?
I run an XX1 (11spd) setup bit with an XTR crankset (as SRAM & well any any splined, self extracting crank setup) are crap IMO.
Think thats the route I'd go Hob Nob (autocorrect made you Job Nib!) but looks like it's MFG supply first, then complete groupset and individual parts last. Assume OEM bikes will be split and sold by CRC etc though. Just a question of (im)patience really.
All groupsets and individual parts should be dropping to dealers who got early pre-orders in around the middle of July so my LBS tell me, as I'll be getting a spare GX chain for my X01 Eagle setup. Sram don't recommend it, but you can use any 11-speed crank/chainring you want.
@Lawman .. Ive got Sram 11 speed cranks on mine at the mo so will that be compatible with the eagle GX groupset then ? ... Tweet Cycles only have GPX group sets at the mo and not BB30 ..
Just noticed that Absolute Black do the 12 speed direct mount chain ring so don't need the newer cranks ... happy days
Yes the 11-speed cranks work. If you have Sram cranks that can take a direct mount chainring you can chnage to the Eagle chainring very easily but it's not necessary. I've heard reports of Eagle running fine on other rings, like Raceface without issue.
Cheers bud 😉
If anyone wants the groupset without the chainset let me know. My LBS had arranged this for me but unfortunately I had already fitted the 11 speed stuff I bought before gx eagle was announced, balls.
PM me and I'll put you in touch