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After a load of quad thefts on Gower one farmer set up a dye bomb, it was quite easy to identify the culprit once they resembled a smurf.

Got off lightly compared to the thief that didn't outrun a farmer a few years previously.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 11:28 pm
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It's a struggle to work out what to use, security cameras are always good, but easily defeated with a simple mask, not many police forces would use the limited evidence to do much with, unless you have a real smackhead who's bungling about without a mask on, or driven up right to your door with the VRN in sight.

Floodlights, our neighbourhood has several that go off all night, nobody bats an eyelid.

Alarm, this is about as good as you'll get, noise is a big deterrent, there's those shotgun blank alarm traps you can get, but with a 6 year old, a bit too dangerous to have about the place!

So reality is, you use cameras and floodlights, but that doesn't stop many burglars who have a bit of ability at it, they know the risks aren't high on them being caught doing the burglary, and if they are, usual deferred sentence is the only real threat they have.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 11:46 pm
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Really good work on being one step ahead of them.

Bear traps and/or flamethrowers are the next logical step, right?


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 11:48 pm
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Strobe lights and a ridiculously, painfully loud siren inside the garage that trigger from the main garage alarm.

Alarm triggered smoke generator in a confined space like a garage are good too.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 11:56 pm
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Really good work on being one step ahead of them.

Bear traps and/or flamethrowers are the next logical step, right?

Bear traps are a pain to clean afterwards, and fuel and gas prices are way too high to even think of using flamethrowers!


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 12:05 am
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Nails in the inside of fences, edges of shed roof. Clear out the shed. Arm your door so that when they open it, they get covered in paint. This isn't advice by the way.. 🤣


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 1:00 am
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Time to bring back shards of broken glass cemented into the top of walls.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 1:37 am
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massive pit with spikes in the bottom and a false floor you need to step on the right squares to cross.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 2:49 am
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Alarm, this is about as good as you’ll get, noise is a big deterrent,

Is it?

When you hear an alarm going off, do you think "oh my god, I'm / someone is being burgled, I'd better investigate" or do you think "there's a bloody alarm going off"?

I tripped my house alarm a little while ago. The neighbour knocked on my door to see if everything was OK. Which was lovely and all, but if I was being turned over then I'm not wholly sure what a blue-badge owning pensioner would've done about it.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 5:03 am
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a co2 powered pistol with pointy pellets loaded. (not that I have a walther cp99 handy or anything after an attempted break-in). 😉

Hmm, what exactly do you expect to do with a ~2ft/lb pistol besides annoy them and potentially earn yourself a firearms offence?


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 8:37 am
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If you can put a very loud bell sounder in an enclosed space like a garage, (possible add some strobes) it can make it a very uncomfortable and disorienting place to be.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 8:38 am
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Maybe your approaching this all wrong. No matter what you've done, they still keep coming back.

In alaska, when bears keep coming back, they trap them, scare them half to death, drug them and put them to sleep and then release them miles away in the middle of nowhere, it stops over 50% coming back.

Just kidding. Hopefully they will think your garage is a nut too hard to crack and go find an easier target.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 8:55 am
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@Cougar i was just on about personally hearing it, so something that is monitored back to me, some cameras can do this, but really just something that rings near me to tell me someones at the garage.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:08 am
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No interest from police and I know of at least 5 hits locally in the last 4 days..

This for me is the most fked up thing

The police have been so degraded that the only thing they'll investigate is a murder
(apart from speeding which has been turned into a hyper efficient conviction machine)


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:20 am
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Very bright strobes sound a good idea - better still if they work with an alarm too.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:24 am
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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46604625


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:49 am
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Squirrelking, Speaking as someone who has been shot in the leg with a pellet from an air pistol its a bit more than annoying, the scumbags would have to be unbelievably bold to stick around and take more shots, I certainly wouldn't stick around for pellet number two and i doubt they'd report you to the cops.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 11:26 am
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Alarm triggered smoke generator in a confined space like a garage are good too.

CS or tear gas?


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 11:28 am
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CS or tear gas?

Just CO2 would do it.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 11:56 am
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Fog bomb....

Then some flashbangs

then a pick axe handle

Should fix it nicely


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 2:14 pm
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Squirrelking, Speaking as someone who has been shot in the leg with a pellet from an air pistol its a bit more than annoying, the scumbags would have to be unbelievably bold to stick around and take more shots, I certainly wouldn’t stick around for pellet number two and i doubt they’d report you to the cops.

I'd be very surprised if they didn't, there's a very good chance you'll spend time inside on fire arms charges and quite possibly paying compensation to your "victims"


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 2:18 pm
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In alaska, when bears keep coming back, they trap them, scare them half to death, drug them and put them to sleep and then release them miles away in the middle of nowhere, it stops over 50% coming back.

This would be bloody brilliant. Capture them, back of a van into the middle of nowhere or central Bristol at the height of rush hour, tell them to strip stark bollock naked and push them out the van.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 3:30 pm
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Capture them, back of a van into the middle of nowhere or central Bristol at the height of rush hour, tell them to strip stark bollock naked and push them out the van.

That's a normal Saturday night, for some folk


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 3:59 pm
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Connect the bikes to the mains.

Just dont forget 😉


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 4:02 pm
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In alaska, when bears keep coming back, they trap them, scare them half to death, drug them and put them to sleep and then release them miles away in the middle of nowhere, it stops over 50% coming back.

When I grew up in the Fens that was done to a kid burgling locally- stripped, hands tied behind back and dumped in a ditch 15 miles from home , no doubt with some kickings on the way


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 4:19 pm
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Squirrelking, Speaking as someone who has been shot in the leg with a pellet from an air pistol its a bit more than annoying, the scumbags would have to be unbelievably bold to stick around and take more shots, I certainly wouldn’t stick around for pellet number two and i doubt they’d report you to the cops.

That may be so but it turns out I was wrong. A CP99 is 1.9J which is actually 1.4fpe, for comparison that's actually within the allowance for airsoft, the legal limit for a pistol is 6fpe. You'd be better off taking a shite and throwing that at them.

As an ARC holder I know I'd be in serious shit if I even got into a pre-meditated altercation never mind with a firearm involved. And as an aside, it's attitudes like yours and @endomick's that means I need a certificate in the first bloody place!


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 4:20 pm
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Connect the bikes to the mains.

Don't forget the warning signs outside to be legally compliant. (Not that I've given it some thought).

Danger of Death!


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 4:34 pm
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Hard to claim it was an accident if you put those signs up.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 4:38 pm
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When I grew up in the Fens that was done to a kid burgling locally- stripped, hands tied behind back and dumped in a ditch 15 miles from home , no doubt with some kickings on the way

I am 100% behind this, but he does know where you (or whoever) live...


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 5:22 pm
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Hard to claim it was an accident if you put those signs up.

Who said anything about an accident. Aiming for the sub-station effect, there's live conductors and there's a warning. Non fit volenti injuria is a sound defence strategy.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:19 pm
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Squirrelking, sorry I upset you and you feel the need to get personal, but turns out you're still wrong, it's 3.5J, 2.3 ft/lbs, 360 feet per second, amused that you went to the trouble of trying to look it up.
It was tongue in cheek, I'm not expecting him to get a gun, but if my guy comes back hes probably getting shot in the arse, especially if he is bold enough to carry on and not leg it the second I spot him, it's my word against his, no witnesses, deny everything.😀


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:40 pm
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Non-lethal electic fence on your property is legal in the UK

https://knight-fencing.co.uk/regulations-electric-fencing-residential/


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:42 pm
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Ever seen a c02 fire suppression system set off by accident? Building regs insist on a fire door between the garage and the house so it must be a real risk.

Obviously tongue in cheek.

I could actually arrange this to protect my garage.
There are a couple of issues.
If the concentration is a bit high, you will kill them also a false alarm would be a bit annoying.
A small cylinder, even just a 2kg portable might scare the crap out of them though.

I'd just go for your other suggestion of lots of noise. 240v Master Blaster off of a relay should do the job.
They are rather loud


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 10:58 pm
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Obviously tongue in cheek.

I could actually arrange this to protect my garage.
There are a couple of issues.
If the concentration is a bit high, you will kill them

Damn, wondered if anyone would notice. Concentration would need to be high enough to starve the fire of oxygen. If memory serves, there's a small window of oxygen concentration where you kill a fire, but not a person.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 11:03 pm
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You could go for an inert gas and rupture their eardrums instead. Breathable though @around 40%.
Or a Fm200 which is also breathable @around 8.5% (chemical reaction) but might give them cancer. A risk I'd be prepared to take.

Co2 doesn't really have that window.

In fact just use all 3 and properly **** up their shit.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 11:21 pm
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If the concentration is a bit high, you will kill them

Handy being in the garage then, all that privacy to dig a nice deep hole, drop them in, bit of lime, and cover it back over.

Jobs a good 'un. Crime rate for the area drops significantly.

Seems a win win to me 😀


 
Posted : 04/02/2022 2:35 am
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In alaska, when bears keep coming back, they trap them, scare them half to death, drug them and put them to sleep and then release them miles away in the middle of nowhere, it stops over 50% coming back.

This would be bloody brilliant. Capture them, back of a van into the middle of nowhere or central Bristol at the height of rush hour, tell them to strip stark bollock naked and push them out the van.

There was an urban legend in the 90s along similar lines about some scallys selling fake drugs at Castlemorton or a similar rave. The crusties rounded them up, force fed them life-changing / experimentally large doses of LSD and locked them in a van with their dogs for 24 hours. No idea if true.


 
Posted : 04/02/2022 8:01 am
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Squirrelking, sorry I upset you and you feel the need to get personal, but turns out you’re still wrong, it’s 3.5J, 2.3 ft/lbs, 360 feet per second, amused that you went to the trouble of trying to look it up.
It was tongue in cheek, I’m not expecting him to get a gun, but if my guy comes back hes probably getting shot in the arse, especially if he is bold enough to carry on and not leg it the second I spot him, it’s my word against his, no witnesses, deny everything.😀

Who's getting personal? I just get annoyed when people start spouting nonsense about using air guns for personal protection, I'm up in Scotland and now have to live with the consequences of folk doing that and worse.

As for looking it up, I had one briefly and know it wasn't all that. CO2 pistols generally aren't powerful, more so revolver types like a CP99 so I know it's going to be crap. As it is I see wherever I got my figures from was wrong, here:

https://www.justairguns.co.uk/walther-cp99-compact-gbb-air-pistol/

But 2.3fpe is shite no matter what way you paint it and still not much above airsoft. Like I said, more likely to annoy someone and if they've come tooled up not a great strategy. It also doesn't take much to get into bother, your word against theirs is all well and good until they show the welts.


 
Posted : 04/02/2022 1:24 pm
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I've seen a sign locally on a bit of derelict land that the adjoining house clearly doesn't want people going on, it says "Rats and Disease". Keep Out clearly wasn't doing the job.


 
Posted : 04/02/2022 1:36 pm
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