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I use a low pressure 'zocchi pump which means I can add small amounts, to be honest I think there may have been a bit more in there when I first set them up but not a great deal more!
I got them off Ianpv back in August so thats six months of trouble and adjustment free use! (apart from me deliberately winding them down when heading uphill)
I like the forks to be "active" whilst riding, I don't mind a bit of pedal bob and the 40% sag means they track the terrain and I've no problems lifting the front.
to be honest I looked at that bears thing, set them up and then rode them around Cwm Carn adjusted them how I felt would make them better, did a bit of local riding, they felt good, back to Cwm Carn and they were great.
The Orange Subzero was marketed as 140mm to 180mm with 160mm being the optimum travel, with the extra 10% sag that sits my fork at about 160mm with enough "drop" to track superbly.
all in my mad old opinion though! 😆
MrN, are those pressures what your pump reads after reattaching? If so, then your real ones must've been a bit higher (but then I think you prob know that stuff)
any idea what 4 pumps puts into the right leg ? (yes, AIR)
I've left that empty in the past but might have a go (always seemed to me that it ramps up enough anyway even without any pressure in there, but then I am a bit of a nancy)
Sorry! I can't remember and I've lost the little adapter thing and can't find another for love nor money!!
it tunes the initial stroke ...I think! 😆
if anyone knows where I can get one from I'd be eternally grateful!!
it tunes the initial stroke ...I think!
Aaaah, I thought it was to ramp up the last bit
I must RTFM, I must RTFM, I must RTFM...
(you can borrow my adaptor for a bit if you need one - won't be on that bike for at least a month)
[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?PartnerID=79&ModelID=19020 ]But, err, I'm offering one like this ?[/url]
oh well done that man!! I'm gonna buy me one of them!!
many thanks!
ok, just been out giving the old sticks a bit of a tune up, the results are as follows:
ATA = 45
PAR = 65
RC2 = 10
all in PSI, get 70% travel when hitting a high kerb at speed, I think its safe to assume that I'll be getting full travel when needed, I'm also running at about 35% sag.
lovely and smooth travel, less bob when climbing than previous settings.
I'm 5.10 and weigh 80kg.
I had a look at mine a week or 3 ago
I can get it lovely & smooth even when I push up the spring rate BUT can't get full travel when it's wound right out (even if I empty all chambers, cycle the fork, re-empty). Missing 20-25mm.
someone on that MTBR thread said the same
Due a service before the summer anyway - will see what windywave can magic up for me
they worked an absolute treat today, the new settings I'm using seem to make the front end seem less "heavy", if that makes any sense?
I found that before, when lifting the front wheel, they felt slightly "planted", today I had no problems there! the front if anything felt alot lighter than before, I can't work it out! perhaps the new settings prevent the fork "dropping" the sag when the fork is being lifted? what ever happens they were as close to perfect as they've ever been!
I love em!
Mr N - have a go at getting full travel when wound out, would you ?
I'd be interested
I think I am the only person never to have problems with my 66 RC3
Love em...granted there is a bit of play in the top bushings but when under normal riding with sag they are lovely.
nope nasher, mine are a joy!
(although they were sorted by the good folk of windwave prior to me sticking them on my bike!)
scaredypants, I'm pretty sure I get full or nearly full travel (ie: no 'missing' 25mm), perhaps you've got too much oil in yours?
can't be too much oil - it gets full travel when wound down
weird, really (the mtbr geezer had an explanation but no solution)
It's not that I care [u]that[/u] much - it rides just fine, and 150's enough for any man, surely 😉
Sorry to dig up an old thread - did anyone ever actually get their ata cart to move more than about 155mm?
If not, think I'll strip mine and see if there is indeed too much oil in there - seems highly unlikely as they wont compress any further even with all air valves removed or pressed in...
Beginning to wonder what the point of them is, may as well get a z1sl and get the same amount of travel (almost)