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Damn it, how can I sleep tonight knowing that the entire world depends upon whether I dare 'flick the switch' on the cheap Chinese charger!
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Where are the water cooling towers?, if that cap goes pop it'll burn right through that melamine worktop and eat through the earths crust into the magma core - and if that happens then you'll only have yourself to blame for buying a cheap light.
A good time to repost this picture.
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See all those safety compliance symbols on the charger? CE-certified / GS Mark / TÜV / C-tick + double insulated?
Those are good things. If your charger doesn't have them (or if they look like they've been drawn on in marker pen) then that is a bad thing. Don't use it and invest in a proper charger - it'll be cheaper than the excess on your home insurance!
From an ebay ad for one of these:
"We'll try our best to ensure that all the problems you encounter will be solved immediately."
Reassuring!
See all those safety compliance symbols on the charger? CE-certified / GS Mark / TÜV / C-tick + double insulated?
Those are good things. If your charger doesn't have them (or if they look like they've been drawn on in marker pen) then that is a bad thing. Don't use it and invest in a proper charger - it'll be cheaper than the excess on your home insurance!
Note the very slight product advertising there? Gloworm chargers, way better than your average Chinese chargers!..........oh wait.....they're made in China too! 😆
A sticky label on a foreign charger doesn't actually mean much. Plus you'll see the middle bit of the E isn't flush with the top and bottom.
Plus you'll see the middle bit of the E isn't flush with the top and bottom.
It isn't supposed to be.
Agreed a sticky label doesn't mean much, though.
Note the very slight product advertising there?
No advertising from me! I have absolutely no affiliation with Gloworm other than I own one of their lights.
I'm not saying "buy Gloworm" - I'm saying "buy reputable" and check for compliance symbols.
Gloworm chargers, way better than your average Chinese chargers!..........oh wait.....they're made in China too!
Erm.. Pretty much [i]everything[/i] electronic is made in China these days. That doesn't mean they are all the same quality!
Yes compliance stickers can be faked obviously - but if you are buying goods from a real company who distributes internationally and has a reputation at stake then I think the chances are somewhat higher that the safety compliance is genuine compared to something you bought from an anonymous seller on eBay!
GrahamS - Member
Note the very slight product advertising there?
No advertising from me! I have absolutely no affiliation with Gloworm other than I own one of their lights.
I'm not saying "buy Gloworm" - I'm saying "buy reputable" and check for compliance symbols.Gloworm chargers, way better than your average Chinese chargers!..........oh wait.....they're made in China too!
Erm.. Pretty much everything electronic is made in China these days. That doesn't mean they are all the same quality!Yes compliance stickers can be faked obviously - but if you are buying goods from a real company who distributes internationally and has a reputation at stake then I think the chances are somewhat higher that the safety compliance is genuine compared to something you bought from an anonymous seller on eBay!
Well I'm totally convinced by your argument 🙄
Suit yourself felt. I don't have an agenda here. You seem to.
Take it you sell these things?
As others have said, buy the light then pick up a better quality CE certified charger and battery elsewhere. (Though chances are it will still be made in China).
GrahamS - Member
Suit yourself felt. I don't have an agenda here. You seem to.
Take it you sell these things?
As others have said, buy the light then pick up a better quality CE certified charger and battery elsewhere. (Though chances are it will still be made in China).
I like the way you accuse me of selling lights 😆 but to make things very clear...... I don't.
Nor do I need to post a picture of a very exciting looking charger
But .....to each their own I suppose, whatever turns you on 😆
Nor do I need to post a picture of a very exciting looking charger
Is yours a little less exciting? Perhaps missing all those little symbols? 😀
I'd be interested to know what compliance was claimed on the OPs charger. Can't tell from the photos.
GrahamS - Member
Nor do I need to post a picture of a very exciting looking charger
Is yours a little less exciting? Perhaps missing all those little symbols?
I only dream that my charger is as exciting as yours 🙄 but it still works
😆
Thanks for the stw off topic crap..
It was a UK charger and it was distributed from a UK business..
Also gofaster we never said it was going to burn the house down that was you.
My worry was that someone could be seriously injured by what happened and as better people have pointed out its an unfused charger.
I should have checked or put it into a power breaker.
Also it is CE marked on the charger.
I've been using cheap Chinese lights for a few years now, no issues. I'll pop a charger open and check for a fuse though.
To the OP- Always have a back up light when night riding!
My Gloworm chargers look externally like the one that blew-up, and so does my Exposure one.
I haven't opened it up to see if it is fused but I left one on charge for a couple of days the other day...
It was a UK charger and it was distributed from a UK business..
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Also it is CE marked on the charger.
In that case it might be worth chasing up with whoever the correct organisation is (Trading Standards, HSE, not sure?)
philfive - MemberI plug mine into an RCD.
The chargers are normally double insulated so are very unlikely to trip and RCD in the event of a failure as the earth pin is not connected.
A fused extension lead is probably the best protection with a very low rated fuse in. Having said that, the device will probably vaporise before the fuse blows!
I've mentioned this before but might help someone. If you buy a US plugged charger you can get a shaver adapter cheaply to plug it in and it should have a low value fuse fitted.
To the OP- Always have a back up light when night riding!
And test a new light/battery before a ride, so you know what Dort of run time Uluru can great out of it.
+1 😉so you know what Dort of run time Uluru can great out of it
Lets not get too carried away. This is a charger with a US plug...
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At first glance it looks like there is no fuse fitted either.
However the green coloured component at the bottom is a fusible resistor. Chances are that there will be something similar fitted to other chargers, its just that it might not look like a fuse as we normally expect.
Request: can someone photo the insides of an unsmoked Solarstorm charger please. Marmaduke- was that one?
so you know what Dort of run time Uluru can great out of it
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iPad keyboard/ autocorrect mishap 🙄
zippykona - Member
So for us electrical Luddites what's the solution?
I have a have a short extension lead into which I plug the charger and battery. This is then placed inside a le crueset sauce pan with the lid on.
Safe or not?
no, cast iron, not good for impacts, a normal steel pan will save a chid's face.
Hello hello hello....
The reason they all look similar externally is because the costs of a mould like that is several tens of thousands, so chinese factories share the moulds, sell them on when they're worn and reverse-engineer other moulds from existing products to save the trouble of designing a mould shape that works.
What I am getting-at is: It's not a great surprise when something you buy that is of very low price turns-out to have been made exclusively down to that price, by cutting as many corners as possible.
Quality is defined as "Meeting customers requirements" by J.S.Oakland*; and the form this takes varies depending on the market, market segment, and also the industry.
"Quality" in a hospital, is different from "Quality" in a restaurant, "Quality" in a £38 light is different from "Quality" in a £300 one.
Here the examples include: features [output, run-time] @ the price-point. However, unless there's some crazy market being exploited [Lupine..?] then the £300 light is going to be made with more-expensive components, more expensive labour, more of these components and also, better [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma ]quality-management[/url] practices, and so therefore the reliability, longevity and [importantly] the safety of the electronics [incorporating over-rated components, heat-stable ones and number of fail-safe features] which is not visible to the eye will all have to be reduced in cost to the supplier to continue the normal percentage markup.
With these sort of gadgets, we're usually looking at manufacturing cost being approximately 15% of the retail price, but to be kind here lets say 20% - so the SStorm light was made for about £7.60 or likely less.
So - for £7.60 you might get a lot of lumens, but you won't get a safe charger.
I guess that's what I meant, but due to the remains of a hangover I didn't feel like typing that at midnight-ish.
I am quite tempted to buy one though 🙂
also, the parts of the psu case have to be screwed and glued together, should not be able to be opened with just a screw driver
pcb should be designed with gaps between ac in and dc out, amongst other things
dont thing an RCD will help, these psus, dont have an earth
OP where did you buy this from?
Fasttech? (which are genuine solarstorm.hk products) or one of the many copies?
I'll take some pics of my Fasttech chargers and post up
For those ([b]felt[/b]) suggesting that the certifications may be fake on the Gloworm charger I pictured:
Here is the company that makes it:
[url= http://www.gaoyipower.com/en/introduce.html ]
Dongguan Gaoyi Electronic Co. Ltd[/url]
(major customers include Apple, LG and Lenovo)
[url= http://gaoyipower.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008834310834/Homepage.htm ]Here are their company details on Global Sources.com[/url]
[url= http://gaoyipower.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008834310834/Certifications.htm ]Here you can view scanned copies of their safety certificates.[/url]
[url= http://www.certipedia.com/companies/38845/certificates?locale=en ]And here are their TUV certificates in the TUV Rheinland "certipedia" database[/url].
That's good enough for me 😀
GrahamS, interested to know what you make of this:
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Supplied with my Gloworm X2.
Fast tech chargers... Model number PD-05
Certainly very different from OP's, so be interesting to know where OP bought from >>>
This came with my recent SSX2...
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On the right we have my XML T6 cree charger, bought 3 years ago from Fasttech, apart from the gripping feature, its identical, even down to the sticker as current SSX2 ...
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3 year old XML T6 charger...
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1 week old SSX2 charger... (same as all my recent SSX2 ones)
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and also some Fasttech SSX2 pics just for helpful comparison purposes
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Biscuit Powered - you have the earlier Gloworm charger, GrahamS has the more recent one.
Both from different suppliers, both suppliers had their CE etc accredition/certification checked by Gloworm that it is genuine.
Gloworm have never had a charger explode or similar. They inform me that the most common cause of these explosions is the use of cheap low quality capacitors.
GrahamS - Member
For those (felt) suggesting that the certifications may be fake on the Gloworm charger I pictured:
GrahamS, when did I suggest that your Gloworm charger sticker was fake? 😕
I was joking about the fact that it was also made in China, but the joke was obviously way over your head 😆
GrahamS, interested to know what you make of this:
Interesting. fewer nice safety symbols there but still that important CE mark.
Looks like it was made by a different company: [url= http://szyingyuan.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008838878463/Homepage.htm ]Shenzhen Yingyuan Electronics Co[/url]
[url= http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/SPEC/105/K1073261105.pdf ]This product description for it[/url] claims it complies with UL/FCC/CE/GS/BS1363/PSE/KC/SAA/C-Tick/CB/CCC.
I was joking about the fact that it was also made in China, but the joke was obviously way over your head
Hmm... I guess it still is then. I took your comment that [i]"Gloworm chargers, way better than your average Chinese chargers!..........oh wait.....they're made in China too!"[/i] to mean that they [i]weren't[/i] better chargers.
I can see now it was actually a hilarious joke. Sorry about that.
🙄 😥 😆 😯 😕 😉
Glad you agree 😆
I 😆 always 😉 agree 😯 with 😐 you 😕 felt ❗ 
Just in case anyone missed it.
IT'S NOT A USA CHARGER. IT'S A UK PLUS, NO ADAPTERS...
OK.
Fozzybear, are you the OP (or OP's partner)?
If so can we have a photo of the back face of the charger where the safety sticker and serial number etc are and details of where you bought it because it looks very different from the fasttech charger cruzcampo posted above.
I bought this light from eBay from a recommended seller of here.
I did test the light during an hour and a half walk with the light showing two bars left so I guessed it was good for one and three quarter hours.
The battery did not last 45 mins last night and we had a backup light.
I'm now wondering if this is a ss x2 light with a cheaper battery and charger.
A lot of people are making this bigger than it needs to be. My point from the start is owners of ss x2 please be careful. Check your plugs for a fuse and never leave these things unattended to charge.
Swag that's a copy of mine I'm sure.
Graham I'll take a photo later.