Forum menu
Solarstorm x2 fault
 

[Closed] Solarstorm x2 fault

Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 
[#5609853]

Sorry if already covered. Out riding tonight. Lights on no problems then when stopped talkin my light went blue then off. Found out it was smoking and basically melted one of the LEDs into the light and stank of electrical burning. Anybody else had this is it new light job or can I replace LED
cheers


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 12:12 am
Posts: 66111
Full Member
 

It's a new light, why do anything other than warranty it? It might be fixable, then again the issue might be in the driver or a wiring fault.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 12:49 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

*waits for all the smug I told you so posts*


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 12:55 am
Posts: 2350
Free Member
 

If it melted the led, it's probably a fault with the protection circuit.

Buy another (or a much more expensive light that'll never go wrong 😉 ) pick your manufacturer then google for woes. You won't be disappointed .


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 1:22 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

can anyone confirm that theirs has any overheat protection cos the one i have wont dim when very hot

Richie now its dead and if the supplier does not want it back can i have a look at it ?


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 4:33 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

ritchic - Member
Sorry if already covered. Out riding tonight. Lights on no problems then when stopped talkin my light went blue then off. Found out it was smoking and basically melted one of the LEDs into the light and stank of electrical burning. Anybody else had this is it new light job or can I replace LED
cheers

POSTED 6 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST

Smells like BS to me...


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 6:56 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Clipperty clop


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 7:08 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Well I haven't contacted seller yet. But not holding out much hope really. I'll certainly try though. I was expecting to start this thread an be loads of people having had same problem to be honest


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 7:16 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

ritchic - Member
Well I haven't contacted seller yet. But not holding out much hope really. I'll certainly try though. I was expecting to start this thread an be loads of people having had same problem to be honest

POSTED 17 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

Errrrrr..........no


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 7:35 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

So pussy what do you think is bs about what I've said then


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 7:40 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I'd say the forum fail rate on ssx2 is less than 1%.

So still no reason to have pants taken down on a 300 quid branded light.

Where did you buy the ssx2 from OP.

may be safer to turn on low or medium if stopping for a while, as no cool air to keep temps down.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 8:11 am
Posts: 66111
Full Member
 

richpips - Member

(or a much more expensive light that'll never go wrong

Who makes these magic lights?


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 9:03 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I bought if of eBay. Seller in uk I believe sportsinglife I think name is. I've messaged him just waiting on reply


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 9:10 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Bought off eBay, UK seller, why not much hope?


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 9:58 am
Posts: 1075
Full Member
 

I bought if of eBay. Seller in uk I believe sportsinglife I think name is. I've messaged him just waiting on reply

Got mine from the same person, looked to me like they're based in China but shipped from UK.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 10:13 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Yeah after lookin again I think your right acid chunks. And I don't no maybe I'm just very negative just feels like ill end up buying a new one in the end


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 10:45 am
Posts: 66111
Full Member
 

Seriously, take it up with the seller, and failing that ebay.

I noticed something weird when the chinese lights were first coming in, lots of people complained about lack of warranty and support, without ever actually trying it. I had to warranty a DX light, apart from a wee bit of communication barrier it went really smoothly. And I broke an SSC torch, they sent me replacement parts for free. But I almost didn't even bother asking!


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 11:23 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I agree I think it's as there so cheap you expect to get problems and expect to have to sort those problems yourself. Where I suppose it's maybe not the case


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 11:42 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I had a duff one. They sent me another in the post from China, arrived a week later. 😉


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 11:44 am
 RicB
Posts: 1541
Free Member
 

I presume the X2s from the 'UK' based seller (mine was posted from Gatwick) are subject to EU law stating electrical goods must have a minimum of 12 months warranty?


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 12:24 pm
 Rich
Posts: 5
Free Member
 

rout - Member
can anyone confirm that theirs has any overheat protection cos the one i have wont dim when very hot

Mine does, after around 10 minutes on high when stationary.

The light dimmed to the lowest setting and wouldn't turn up again until it had cooled down.

Mine was bought from Laptopartsupplier on Ebay.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 12:25 pm
Posts: 4097
Free Member
 

may be safer to turn on low or medium if stopping for a while, as no cool air to keep temps down.

This. They do seem to get mighty hot very quickly otherwise.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 12:30 pm
Posts: 15459
Full Member
 

I had a single "Bastid style" single XML go the other night, the LED now flickers very weakly if you power it, I had it on High when it went but I was moving and it had only been on for about 10 - 15 seconds, I don't think it was a thermal issue.

I opened the front of the housing and took out the reflector for a look see, and there was the tell tail whiff of "something a bit burnt" I've not investigated any further yet, the battery seems to be fine and has powered another light since, I'm wondering if it was an over-current protection failure, a short or simply a loose/broken connection, maybe even some moisture ingress...

My own 'X2' is ok thus far, but it's not done many miles yet, I'm keeping it to "Low" and "Mid" settings, I'd be interested to see the inside if you do pull it apart, see just how it carries the heat into that extruded housing, anyone else taken one to bits yet? (and taken some pictures)...

I agree I think it's as there so cheap you expect to get problems and expect to have to sort those problems yourself. Where I suppose it's maybe not the case

single and double XML lights are cheap enough that you start to think of them as disposable items, probably not all that sustainable / environmentally friendly, the cost of repairing vs the cost of replacing means you shrug, order another one and console yourself with the fact that you'll at least have a spare battery and charger now... If you can get a six months out of a ~£20 light then you are probably not going to go mad chasing down a refund, but to only get a couple of weeks use, you'll be wanting a refund, and not be buying far eastern lights again I expect.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 1:01 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

He has replied askin if light still works to which I've replied but just waiting again now. We were only stopped for all of 3 mins I'd say if that and wasn't as if was a hot nite neither I think it must be a fault somewhere and not just the heat


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 1:26 pm
Posts: 14707
Free Member
 

In answer to Trouts question about overheating protection, according to the MTBR thread some of the users/tester have seen LED power output drop automatically when testing battery duration in static test enviroment (in the house). Can't say I've noticed mine heating up to anything like 'hot' in several weeks use, or a couple of static battery duration runs & IIRC it dropped output (my battery was very poor though).
There a bugger load of info (some useful some not so), on the [url= http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-night-riding/solarstorm-fandyfire-x2-844802-5.html ]MTBR thread[/url] including a disassembly on that page (Page 5) and a further disassembly on Page 10 (you used to need to register to see pictures, no idea if this is still the case)


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 2:27 pm
Posts: 1454
Full Member
 

The X2 is the first night-riding light I've bought - all my others have been home made.

First thing I did (after checking it worked) was take it apart and check it out. I was unimpressed with the thermal path from the LED to the casing, so injected a load of thermal paste (for PC heat sinks) around the LED backing plates to bridge the gap.

Then I switched it on for longer, stationary on the bench - after about 20 minutes on high the light dimmed (I assumed a thermal management function) and the casing was too hot to hold, and I was satified that the paste was doing a good job (since there were those who had reported that theirs didn't get hot).

I have used it in anger 3 times now and the only shortcoming is the aforementioned poor battery life on high, so I generally use it on low which is still plenty bright enough when coupled with a helmet light.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 4:06 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I bought if of eBay. Seller in uk I believe sportsinglife I think name is. I've messaged him just waiting on reply

Bought from the same seller, battery died whilst on hi for 2 mins after an hour on low beam (after being worried by reports on here)
Have contacted them and after a couple of emails they've agreed to send out a new battery.

Did have an email from them requesting pictures of the light not working!!!


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 6:29 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Just had a closer look at the one I got and first thing is it certainly is not waterproof because I can blow through it from the lens end
so what is likely to happen when it rains is the light may be warm and the rain will cool it causing it to suck in water
I expect this to cause some failures as corrosion start to happen on the driver board over the winter.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 7:19 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I'm starting to wonder if some of the UK ones are of the same quality as the Fastech lights, of which i've seen no issues with so far, and are certainly waterproof on a heavy rain ride, and also cut off fine when too hot.


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 8:57 pm
Posts: 87
Free Member
 

Hi trout what are your initial thoughts on the light as a unit? What would you recommend to aid the waterproofing sealing?


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 9:56 pm
Posts: 31206
Full Member
 

I'd say the forum fail rate on ssx2 is less than 1%.
So still no reason to have pants taken down on a 300 quid branded light.

300 quid? No.

My "branded" Gloworm X2 was £150 (with STW discount).

My pants are very much intact, thanks. 😀

I knew cheaper crapper lights were available, but I was prepared to pay more for a tiny very well-built light, that still runs happily [url=

submerged in water[/url], with a remote switch, small good quality battery, fuel gauge, and customisable driver.

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 10:11 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

GrahamS - Member

that does look neat, how many lumens? any night shots? although my red SSX2 turned up today, can't get enough of them 😆


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 11:13 pm
Posts: 31206
Full Member
 

cruz: max output is 1500 (genuine) lumens, via two Cree XML U2 (one spot, one flood) - though I haven't needed to run it that high. The 1000 lumen setting already peels the bark from the trees.

It's a very neat little package. Whole system with battery weighs just 280g

[img] [/img]

If you want more power then check out the 2200 lumen triple led version in Tuesday Treats:
http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tuesday-treats-62-crg-moto-revisited/


 
Posted : 17/10/2013 11:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've fixed my light. One of the white wires had come off. So I reconnected/soldered it...

Now I have a light that does not turn off, has 4 modes and is brighter than the normal one (mode 4 = mode 3)? Will it explode!? What have I done!?


 
Posted : 18/10/2013 12:19 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I have the Gloworm X2 (the previous one at 1200 lumens) and the X1 on the head and they work well - I use the medium settings mostly.

Not sure I would want more light, otherwise what is the point of riding at night?

Wanted to get a luminator but caught Troutie in a period where he was more interested in making beer than answering any emails from me...


 
Posted : 18/10/2013 12:40 pm
Posts: 14707
Free Member
 

Coulda sworn night riding was something you did because the sun is no longer in the sky @ 9pm, not an extreme sport I must undertake only if I limit myself light wise 😯


 
Posted : 18/10/2013 12:45 pm
Posts: 66111
Full Member
 

Can be either, nothing wrong with a bit of variety. Course, bright lights have a low mode, dull lights don't have a bright mode.


 
Posted : 18/10/2013 12:45 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Night riding for me is letting me continue riding when the daylight no longer does, and the trails feel so different, regardless of high or low beam 8) I usually prefer high just for the sheer wow factor of the second sun 😆


 
Posted : 18/10/2013 6:19 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've just received one in the post today. I plugged in the charger and connected the battery, but the charger emits a slightly concerning buzzing noise - is this normal?


 
Posted : 18/10/2013 6:58 pm