[Closed] Slow people... As in REALLY slow...

Still single then mboy?

Went on a ride today with a young lady (her suggestion, I was a little dubious)

If she suggested she was a lady, she probably was....

You seem to have an incredible talent for attracting women who are not quite 'right'.

slow lady ? fast woman shocker

Is mboy that fella with the pick axes?

Why the rush?

If the girl was enjoying herself then no harm done, other than to test your patience.

If she wants to ride faster then either you can coach her in technique or if thats not in your skill set you can point her to those who can. Does she actually understand gear ratios? (or did you force her up into a high gear and middle ring combo that would have felt tough) can you explain it without being condescending? Do you actually remember what it was like to be really slow (if you ever were)?

The solution is not just to try harder - without the right training trying hard just breaks you quicker. I remember my first couple of years on the bike and much fitter/more experienced riders would seem able to turn bigger gears than I could and last much longer etc. Then when the stopped so I could catch up they got a (longer) rest. Even with riding MTB fairly regularly I never managed to break the cycle.

Only when I started doing road stuff could I leap up a level in fitness - and I am still fat and slow, and by most people on here's standard very slow and unfit - but I now know how bad I was.

she might be better off using the middle ring occasionally

Missed this first time round. You dirty, dirty boy.

was this one going out with a married bloke too or is it the same one?

I'm off to bed and I'm expecting this thread to be a least 3 pages long by the time I log on again in the morning 😀

Slow people... As in REALLY slow...

you called?

Have to say I have been stunned at non-cycling women's ability to be incomprehensibly slow on a bike, like, "did you stop and have a snooze for 10m slow?".

LOL @ toys19

Sometimes it's nice to treat the ladeeeez slowly

Mboy, your threads are starting to remind me of jhw's (of ice-axe fame) memorable Asky Guy series from a several months ago.

Keep up the good work

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/how-do-you-deal-with-asky-people

Edit: *sigh* Those were the heady days when we could tag at will.

Some people just don't get gears. There's a guy that's been out a few times who by his own admission is slow. When we get to a climb he still drops it into the smallest sprocket? he won't use his 34 ring either. And wonders why he can't make the climbs.

Is mboy that fella with the pick axes?

The 'asky' one? That be JHW! Who I can only imagine is also still single.

Still single then mboy?

You'd noticed? 😉

You seem to have an incredible talent for attracting women who are not quite 'right'.

I'm gonna quote you and tell my mates! They will literally piss themselves. You don't know how accurate you are, but I have been the subject of ridicule on numerous occasions for the very talent you describe. One of my finest finds was a girl who by the end of the second date had told me all about how her uncle used to beat and molest her when she was young! There are stranger than that though... Maybe I should write a book! 😕

Is mboy that fella with the pick axes?

Not following to be fair... Please elaborate...

Why the rush?

No rush whatsoever... This was more akin to waiting for a recalcitrant child somewhere that it said it wanted to go but then decided it didn't. For the record, by my guesstimation, we did 10-11 miles, and whilst we stopped and chatted for maybe 45 minutes, we were still out for over 4 hours. Not exactly big hills either.

Regarding the coaching her bit... Tried not to sound condescending when talking about the gears, it still didn't seem to go down too well. She did however ask for tips on cornering, and seemed a bit more receptive there. I just don't think she likes pedalling!

was this one going out with a married bloke too or is it the same one?

This was a date arranged weeks ago that I would have sacked off if anything was gonna happen with the other one. Shame she's so messed up, as she really floats my boat!

Have to say I have been stunned at non-cycling women's ability to be incomprehensibly slow on a bike, like, "did you stop and have a snooze for 10m slow?".

I've usually found the opposite. Usually been quite shocked how determined to do well any women I've taken cycling for the first time have been, and impressed by the effort put in. Usually find guys new to the sport are slower and more relaxed by contrast. Anyway, she's been riding for years, and at least 2 offroad she says! 😕

Mboy, your threads are starting to remind me of jhw's (of ice-axe fame) memorable Asky Guy series from a several months ago.

Never saw that... But here's my point to you... The more people I meet, the more confused I am by everything!

I'm seeking answers... 😉

One of my finest finds was a girl who by the end of the second date had told me all about how her uncle used to beat and molest her when she was young!

bloody hell I had the same thing...she wasn't called Kate, was she?

Eeesh, coincidence!

No her name was Emma. Ironically though, she was from your neck of the woods! Between Stroud and Gloucs somewhere iirc. Maybe she changed her name! 😕

edit. Things are not always how they seem

Someone discloses something traumatic to you in confidence, you worry about your own 'bad luck' in having to hear it and mention it in a public forum in the course of a thread you started criticising someone else at length, for holding you up on bike....someone you chose to ride with.

Your point metasequoia?

FWIW, it turned out to be a made up story she used to spin, in the name of grabbing attention. It worked briefly, as I was young and naive and was full of sympathy until I found out the truth!

There was a similar thread a couple of weeks ago

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/walking-up-that-hill ]here[/url]

Seems to be following the same path. I have your point of view mboy, at least have a go at the hill....

This opinion on here however means that you are elitist, anti fatty, and obsessed with your own awesomeness.

Pretty full on story really.
The way I read it, I'm not sure you have a knack of picking the wrong girls, it sounds like you are the wrong guy.
Being a good mountain bike rider is pretty low on my partner's requirements.
This girl comes from a different riding culture to you but is still keen to get out with you.
I wouldn't be coaching her on your first date - just get out and enjoy the moment FWIW.
My current partner tried so hard to impress me that she hurt herself badly a couple of times and now won't go near a mountain bike again.
Take it easy on her, its a date not a thrash with your mates!!

This opinion on here however means that you are elitist, anti fatty, and obsessed with your own awesomeness.

Yeah, that's me all over!?!?! 😕

🙄

Got no point to prove whatsoever here, but I'm far from quick or elitist. And I mean far from it. I've helped introduce a large number of people to Mountain Biking, and don't mind hanging about for anyone really. The one caveat I will say is that they have to at least seem to be [i]trying[/i] somewhat. If she was genuinely slow like that, but blowing out of her arse I'd understand, but she barely broke a sweat!

I have never before today, really moaned about someone's pace, but this was exceptionally slow! Slow to the point I struggled to actually enjoy being on my bike and saw the bike ride bit of the "date" as being a chore, because I was concentrating more on how far behind she was and then stopping all the time, than I was on riding and chatting. A walk would have been far preferable in this case.

"It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop" Confucius

I shouldnt worry too much. Mrs vader is slooooooow! Has to be reminded how her gears work on every ride and it takes us the same time to do 5 miles as I do 15. Just accept that she us slow and enjoy being outside......

Mboy every tried having a pre-ride hand shuffle?

It will make you more relaxed and less jumpy.

I suggested she might be a bit hot in so many layers

😉 I got ya, I might try that one out some time.

Successful Dating 101

Rule 1. Do not criticise or try to change your partner during your first date.

Great post mboy. I laughed.
Have been with a few slowies on rides (usually in big groups) - why do they insist on entering the singletrack first and not getting out of the way of quicker people?

"Take it easy on her, its a date not a thrash with your mates!!"

Not quite sure if I've interpreted that the right way 😳

She asked you out on a ride (ie date) and then you were critical of her. She's definitely not your riding partner as you say, she's too slow. Equally, you are definitely not her future boyfriend.

@sc-xc - that's priceless !

I wonder if these are the same people who go to gym's and don't break a sweat?

Each to their own and all that 🙄

There is a big difference in pace between even a very slow regular STW type rider (e.g. me, who's probably just about the slowest person on here) and even a fairly fit occasional cyclist.

My wife is a lot fitter than me and if we're running or hillwalking has to slow down significantly to let me keep up. When we're cycling (on or off road) though it's a completely different story as I'm significantly faster everywhere, even uphill where her power to weight ratio must be hugely better than mine.

Have you thought about ...ahem.... transferring to the opposition?

If you become a gayer, a bloke might be able to keep up a bit better

Logged on again from last night and we've only just got to the second page. What is stw coming too?

This is why I am so happy to have a sporty mrs!
She just needs to sort out her confidence on the descents (by her own admission she dabs the brakes too heavily, so she's halfway there)

Have faith, Mboy! *

*Or self-belief rather than trusting on beardy old men in the sky. 😉

Mboy- introduce her to the delights of strava. In no time at all she'll be quicker than a rat up a drainpipe.

I haven't been on this website for a while (ten days), i come back and this is the first thread to catch my eye.
It's great here. 😀

There is a big difference in pace between even a very slow regular STW type rider (e.g. me, who's probably just about the slowest person on here) and even a fairly fit occasional cyclist.

My wife is a lot fitter than me and if we're running or hillwalking has to slow down significantly to let me keep up. When we're cycling (on or off road) though it's a completely different story as I'm significantly faster everywhere, even uphill where her power to weight ratio must be hugely better than mine.

yeah same here

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Going up hill is like making love to a beautiful woman.......

Mboy every tried having a pre-ride hand shuffle?

It will make you more relaxed and less jumpy.

Preaching to the converted mate... 😉

Successful Dating 101

Rule 1. Do not criticise or try to change your partner during your first date.

I didn't. I already know that one. When, after about 2 hours of struggling, she asked me for a couple of tips I very politely suggested she was doing quite well but may want to shift her weight back a little when she was going downhill as she'd find it easier. She tried, she agreed. Other than this, I kept my gob shut, apart from suggesting she may possibly find it better using the middle ring a bit more often right near the end of the ride, after watching her struggle to ride everywhere in the granny for more than 3 hours.

Take it easy on her, its a date not a thrash with your mates!!

I did. Massively easy. Easier than I would have if you'd given me your 5 year old diabetic, anaemic and hopelessly clumsy child to look after.

For the record, my most common cycling mate to go out for a "thrash" (as you so put it) with is a 43 year old woman, who's also only been riding about 2 years. But she's almost as quick as me, and has certainly got more stamina (oo-err missus!) 😉

I couldn't physically ride slow enough most of the time, I started to wobble a lot. Every time I sped up a touch, I'd turn around hoping she'd up the pace even just slightly... No. Wasn't gonna happen! She kept saying about not having the legs or the lungs to try to keep up. I've ridden with obese chain smokers that have not been on a bike in years that would have left her for dead! I've actually just looked at the route we rode and worked out it was about 11 miles. For definite, I could have walked it quite a bit faster than we rode it...

Have been with a few slowies on rides (usually in big groups) - why do they insist on entering the singletrack first and not getting out of the way of quicker people?

Whilst this can be frustrating, and an endemic problem of riding in large groups, this is not what I'm on about. If I'm riding in a large group, and you've got someone slower who always insists on going in front, no problems... I just give them oodles of space so I can enjoy myself too without being all over their back tyre all the time. At least these people are actually trying though, putting some effort in.

For the record, it is far more the complete lack of any physical effort whatsoever that she put in that wound me up than the pace itself. If she was as big as a house, but really sweating buckets and trying her heart out, I'd have been impressed. I don't think I broke a sweat once in 4 hours yesterday, but that said, I don't think she did either.

She asked you out on a ride (ie date) and then you were critical of her. She's definitely not your riding partner as you say, she's too slow. Equally, you are definitely not her future boyfriend.

I'm not after a riding partner as such. Got a few of them as is, and though more are always welcome, I'm not trying to find one. I had originally thought maybe going on a bike ride for the first date was a bad idea, but it was her insistence it was what she wanted to do. I didn't think that as someone that has been riding for a couple of years or more already, she would be a fraction of the pace of any of the newbies I've introduced recently!

Dates work well IMO when both parties are on a mutual footing. I worried that of course a bike ride would be more up my street, but she insisted she's far from a beginner so I thought "OK, as long as I plan an easy-ish route and don't expect too much, what can go wrong?"

I wonder if these are the same people who go to gym's and don't break a sweat?

Each to their own and all that

I've always been puzzled by this. Down my gym there's a fairly attractive brunette in her mid 20s that often pops along. She's slim, probably a size 8, but still one of those girls that thinks she needs to tone up a bit. But anyway... She goes in and sits on an exercise bike for 30-45 minutes, at maybe 60-70rpm, but on level 5 out of 20. I often use the exercise bike just as a 5 minute warm up, to get some heat into my body, and will stick it on level 16 and hold 90-95rpm for a 5 minute warm up. I tried level 5, and it was easier than freewheeling down a hill! She'll sit on the bike for 30 minutes or more, turning her legs over, but never once breaking a sweat. I fail to see how that achieves anything! 😕

Got the distinct impression that yesterday's girl is the same.

There is a big difference in pace between even a very slow regular STW type rider (e.g. me, who's probably just about the slowest person on here) and even a fairly fit occasional cyclist.

Yes/No/Maybe.

I bet you ride at maybe 60-70% of your normal pace with your wife though? I was expecting to ride probably at less than 50% of my normal pace... I wasn't expecting to ride at probably 20% of it!

Have you thought about ...ahem.... transferring to the opposition?

If you become a gayer, a bloke might be able to keep up a bit better

binners, many [i]many[/1] times... Sadly, I just can't fancy blokes though! It might be easier if I did, sadly I'm just too heterosexual for my own good it would seem! 😉

This is why I am so happy to have a sporty mrs!
She just needs to sort out her confidence on the descents (by her own admission she dabs the brakes too heavily, so she's halfway there)

Good for you mate. The young lady I got mixed up with recently who is sadly, still in love with a married man, is pretty sporty. Swims, runs (has done the London Marathon before), plays women's rugby, mentioned to me she wants to get a bike again asap etc... Certainly, and I'm not ashamed to admit it, factors that influenced why I quite liked her. Wasn't to be though, at least not for now.

Mboy- introduce her to the delights of strava. In no time at all she'll be quicker than a rat up a drainpipe.

Hehehe. Think it would be lost though. Some people only need an element of competition in their lives to turn them from lazy to superfit/fast. I don't think she's one of them. Think she falls into the "it's un-ladylike to sweat" category.

Going up hill is like making love to a beautiful woman.......

It's a massive shame actually she wasn't a whole lot quicker than she was, cos she's actually got quite a nice arse and I wanted an excuse (being slower than her) to look at it a few times! Shame... 😉

Went on probably the slowest ride I've ever been on today. And I'm no quick rider, and I've been on some slow rides too in the past, but this one really was exceptional, so much so I feel I need to post on here!

Went on a ride today with a young lady

Now I've never moaned about someone's pace before, as long as they're trying.

Totally bemused cos she likes lots of outdoor activities, but seems totally averse to any kind of physical effort

She tried that for 20 metres, then went back saying "I find it better this way"

By contrast, my ex GF started beating me

this girl would probably actually say something rude