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[Closed] Singletrack Decide Not To Cover the Danny MacAskill Playboy Video

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If Playboy makes you think of, world renown paedophile/necrophiliac, Mr Saville, then I would love to see the mental gymnastics that got you to that conclusion.

Yeah that's a bit of hyperbole - but there is definitely a [i]slightly creepy[/i] aspect to a very rich, powerful 88 year old man who lives in a mansion full of "barely legal" girls dressed in bunny outfits.

No?


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:34 pm
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Ironically, this is exactly the type of nudge nudge wink wink, you wouldn't get in Playboy.

I bow to your expertise here

Its not a surprise given what mark said on that thread

Its not a surprise some men disagree
They probably dont want their daughters to work for Hugh though


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:34 pm
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No I didn't have to go there to confirm what I already knew, but to use it as an example as to how the video will appear to the knuckle draggers.

It is ironic that you won't get nudge nudge wink wink in Playboy, because that is exactly how the video is being received by the looks of the comments on Danny's page, regardless as to how much research they do into women's sexual liberation.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:35 pm
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I'd just like to point out that the Playboy Mansion isn't the same thing as the magazine Playboy.

This is the first in a new series of posts, where Dez points out two things that are different.

Next week, Dez points out that a pineapple, and the assassinated president of Egypt, Anwar Sadat, are in fact, different.


 
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Seems a bit odd to come out in opposition to this - if you don't like the vid, then just don't publish it - no need to draw attention to the matter with a statement.

I appreciate STW is a business, and the owners have the right to decide whatever they wish to promote, but surely it's best to go with whatever is the views of your demographic, and if you're unsure then just don't comment on the matter?

So far on Youtube it's been viewed by 703,585 people of which 7,843 have voted on it.

98.15% of these votes are thumbs up (7,698) and 1.85% (145) are thumbs down. This is fairly indicative of the video, on the whole, not causing too much offence. Content wise, compared to the average hip hop video it's pretty tame.

Granted it's not Danny's best work, but this is probably due to the fact that they presumably had a limited time on the location for the shoot, and so couldn't be as ambitious as previous projects.

Given all the events that are going on around the world, there are far more controversial and important issues to highlight, than a relatively harmless video on Youtube.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:37 pm
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Crap video, good riding poor camera work and editing, right decision by the Singletack gods not to promote it.

The sort of thing 14 year old teenagers would s**** over in the late eighties as Adam w said and no place in thie year 2014.

Well done stw.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:38 pm
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[i]Next week, Dez points out that a pineapple, and the assassinated president of Egypt, Anwar Sadat, are in fact, different.[/i]

Ah, you git! I'll have to think of a new one now 🙁


 
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The sort of thing 14 year old teenagers would s**** over in the late eighties

Why can't 14yr olds s**** over it now?


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:40 pm
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This is fairly indicative of the video, on the whole, not causing too much offence

No this is indicative of the fact that people who watched it liked it
I suspect you get the same figure for Top gear or football.
I would not conclude that 99% of the general population liked them based on that
I would also not base anything on you tube likes
We have no idea how many declined to watch it because of the setting

Given all the events that are going on around the world, there are far more controversial and important issues to highlight, than a relatively harmless video on Youtube

pointless whatbouterry


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:41 pm
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So far on Youtube it's been viewed by 703,585 people of which 7,843 have voted on it.
98.15% of these votes are thumbs up (7,698) and 1.85% (145) are thumbs down. This is fairly indicative of the video, on the whole, not causing too much offence.

Democracy by YouTube votes - is this the beginning of the end?

FWIW I'm not remotely [i]"offended"[/i] by it - I just think it's misogynistic crap and I'm happy that STW feel likewise.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:42 pm
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Given all the events that are going on around the world, there are far more controversial and important issues to highlight, than a relatively harmless video on Youtube

Yes. like [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/jim-hendersonthe-muppets-what-happened ]THIS![/url]


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:45 pm
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Will it lead to a new feature?
"We are [b]NOT[/b] showing this Wednesdays"
It would be interesting to have seen the reaction if the video had been at a beach with 10x more flesh on display but in a more natural habitat.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:46 pm
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I only read the Morning Star and vintage copies of Razzle that I keep in a hedge

Me too. Razzle keeps me up to date on the class struggle and global politics, and nothing rustles my jimmies like a Morning Star centrefold.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:47 pm
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Well this has got legs.

As a confirmed "leg man" I approve of this. Oh....


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:48 pm
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Thought it was fine.

No nudity.

Great stunts.

Nice house.

Some women in bikinis big deal.

Get some buff guys sitting in the pool with the ladies to even it up?


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:49 pm
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Content wise, compared to the average hip hop video it's pretty tame.
aiming high there then if that's the point of reference you're choosing.

Get some buff guys sitting in the pool with the ladies to even it up?
yep, that'll solve the objectification aspect sure enough. I did note one of the commenters on FB page said that as HH's knackers weren't on show it was all above board and tasteful. Because octogenarian's testes are just so gauche


 
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[url= http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/fresh-goods-friday-23/ ]Last item - Phwooar, eh? Eh? Nudge, nudge? Stunnaz in lycra, innit? Nudge, nudge. Etc ad infinitum. [/url]

Edit - Image removed after second thoughts. Just have a look for Cyclepassion images on teh interwebz yourself.


 
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ah the Pot and the kettle are off for a chat in meeting room 1 then.


 
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I only read the Morning Star and vintage copies of Razzle that I keep in a hedge

You live in 1985 and I think I used to deliver your copy of the Morning Star 😀

Ahh, hedge porn. Something the internet has ruined for the kids of today.


 
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Junkyard / GrahamS - Yep, I would consider the Up / Down votes on a video to be indicative of public support for/against it - through social networking the internet is pretty fast to lynch anyone who makes a controversial statement/video etc, and this is usually reflected in the votes and comments. The fact that this hasn't happened, despite nearly 3/4 million views shows that people on the whole aren't bothered by the Playboy content.

The main reason I think it was unnecessary for STW to take the moral high ground and comment on the matter is that it then sets them as a target - if they've ever published a photo of a female cyclist in skimpy clothing, or given publicity to the Marzocchi calendars or any other promotion material from other manufacturers featuring similar content, then they're going to look a little hypocritical. I don't really get why the "Friday Kylie" style posts were deemed acceptable if the Playboy video isn't?


 
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Yeah that's a bit of hyperbole - but there is definitely a slightly creepy aspect to a very rich, powerful 88 year old man who lives in a mansion full of "barely legal" girls dressed in bunny outfits.

No?

Erm, no. Stop trying to bring child abuse into an argument where it has no place. A low tactic.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:57 pm
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you do know the origins* of friday kylie don't you joey?

<edit>* i [i]think [/i]I know, but I probably shouldn't bet the house on it


 
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Poor show by STW.. Danny is a great guy who loves biking and always has time for kids and fans.. Choosing to not show his video because of some scantily clad girl's is a joke... I think someones moral compass needs a tap on the head..... with a shovel

STW Premium cancelled.


 
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D0NK: Nope, have I missed something?


 
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Poor show by STW.. Danny is a great guy who loves biking and always has time for kids and fans.. Choosing to not show his video because of some scantily clad girl's is a joke... I think someones moral compass needs a tap on the head..... with a shovel

STW Premium cancelled.

😆

EDIT - there have been plenty of warnings over the posting of scantily clad ladies so that's a bust (fnar fnar)


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:00 pm
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[i]STW Premium cancelled.[/i]

Now [i]that's[/i] what I call an overreation!


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:02 pm
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Now that's what I call an overreation!

It's not the first of this sordid little episode.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:04 pm
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Nope, have I missed something?
IIRC, as is pretty usual with groups that are predominantly male, a lot of the members can't seem to keep sex separate from the rest of life so there were a [b]lot[/b] of threads and pics and links to pics of scantily clad ladies - on a cycling forum. Mods/STW kiboshed it but the FK thing seemed to be allowed/blind eye turned, as a bit of a compromise (dunno who came up with the idea) that practice seems to have disappeared tho, then there was A&A which I think had to be relevant to sports, but not noticed one for a while so maybe they died out aswell.

atleast [i]I think[/i] that's how it came about


 
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Ahh, hedge porn. Something the internet has ruined for the kids of today.

It's all about the dogging these days, that and Tinder.

To be fair, I did encounter a traditional paper rag in a hedge a few weeks back. Someone's keeping the old ways alive.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:08 pm
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Junkyard / GrahamS - Yep, I would consider the Up / Down votes on a video to be indicative of public support for/against it

Have a look on YouTube for videos of beheadings, public executions, that kind of thing. Note the large number of views and up votes on some of them.

Do they really have public support? Or is it just that they attract the kind of people that would upvote them?

If that's too severe then try a conspiracy theory video about the moon landings or chemtrails or our alien ancestors etc etc. They get a lot of upvotes but I don't think that reflects what people actually believe.


 
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I find the whole Playboy thing cringeworthy...if I were STW I probably wouldn't show a vid of it either, however uncomfortable I am with the idea of censorship.

The PB mansion belongs in a bygone era when casual racism/sexism and the wearing terrible toupes in public was almost acceptable.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:11 pm
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[i]cringeworthy.[/i]

Excellent wordage.


 
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Given all the events that are going on around the world, there are far more controversial and important issues to highlight, than a relatively harmless video on Youtube.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation


 
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Erm, no. Stop trying to bring child abuse into an argument where it has no place. A low tactic.

I wasn't. Just the opposite, I criticised that as "hyperbole".

I said an 88 year old guy who pays for 18-to-25 year old women to dress up as bunnies and hang about his house is a bit [i]creepy[/i], that's all.

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Naughty grandad.


 
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nice one STW, premier subscription purchased.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:21 pm
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I am pissing in the pool as we speak.

..and given the amount of sharting at work threads, I imagine there might be a few UFOs* in here as well.

*Unidentified Floating Objects.


 
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😯


 
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You're taking Youtube comments as an endorsement?

Jesus H Corbett!

I can't think of any social group more deserving of my contempt than the people who comment on Youtube videos. They only do it as everyone needs a break from furious self-abuse from time to time, and commenting on Youtube means they don't have to do anything as taxing as leaving their sweaty chair, as they sit surrounded by soggy Kleenex and an atmosphere thick with self-loathing

When the crushing desperation your excuse for a life has become means you resort to that, then you may as well just end it all, as your pathetic, worthless existence will only lead to disappointment. Both for yourself, but mainly for everyone who has the misfortune to ever encounter you


 
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Wheres this hedge everyone seems to know about ?


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:38 pm
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Wheres this hedge everyone seems to know about ?

Outside Hora's house.


 
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The only thing about the Danny Makaskill does Playboy vid that harked back to the eighties was the idea that a one piece swimsuit or little shorts is "scantily clad". There's as much flesh on display in the local park on a sunny lunchtime, and outside most Newcastle clubs in January at 2pm (though when it's warm they wear less). And everyone loved the original roadbike party vid despite the gratuitous bike cleaning scene. (Alhough some folk moaned about using gt85.) That said there's no reason a MTB site has to feature a trials riding vid, trials is a bit like BMX after all, and BMX is a bit eighties. Oh, was THAT the real issue..?

No. STW thought they heard a bandwagon and hurled themselves out the window hoping to land on it.


 
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Yawn


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:45 pm
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[i]outside most Newcastle clubs in January at 2pm[/i]

You should pitch this to Redbull as an idea for the next Danny Mac vid.
(Presuming you mean 2am)


 
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