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[Closed] Singlespeed specific wheel... Opinions please???

 JB
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I've pretty much always run Hope hubs and love them... but i'm going to build a Singlespeed specific wheel (to run in a slot dropout frame)... is the Hope SS/Trials hub any good or better to do something else???


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:52 pm
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And could I ask on the back of this what is the best value/logevity SS hub with regular QR axle as my Nukeproof Generator freehub has given up the ghost (way to soon).


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:01 pm
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Hope is bulletproof but hefty. Recently I've just been using regular 9 speed hubs as I prefer cassettes for convenience and SS cassette hubs are hard to get hold of, and even harder to get spares for...


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:19 pm
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Happy with my Hope SS so far (I converted it to QR). I bought it 2nd hand built into a rim, although it is now due it's first bearing change 🙁


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:20 pm
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hi, check out the superstar singlespeed hub. looks very good for the money and does actually look really good!

Or you can get a bontrager ss wheel, get the right one and it comes with a very good bontrager branded DT hub for a good price.

Hope are good but bearing life is limited if it gets wet/gritty.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:20 pm
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Thanks for that great just what I was looking for, didnt even know they had branched out into the SS market.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:40 pm
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I love my Hope SS hub. It engages very quickly (more pawls than standard pro 2) obviously this is mainly for trials riding, but it's really noticeable and is great for slow speed techy bits.

I don't have any other ss hub to compare it too, but I thoroughly recommend it: Great quality, easy to service, British made, good customer back up and pretty too!


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:41 pm
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my hope ss is reliable but on the digi kitchen scales weighs approx 440g
so the next wheelbuild will be on xtr hub


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:52 pm
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I an tempted to get a hope s/s hub but at the same time the SuperStar s/s is tempting at half the price

spoke to Niel and he will supply hub, XC717 rim and spokes for a self build ( which I asked for) for £115

One of the lads ( mrT I think) on this site has one and is well pleased


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 11:08 pm
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I have a surly SS hub for sale [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fssurly-ss-disc-rear-hub-and-goldtec-pro-competition-front-hub ]here[/url] which uses screw on freewheel, have had a change of plans so no longer needed. Currently using an xt hub with spacers but will be swapping to a hope SS/trials hub build as the chainline is more adjustable on them, the surly one uses outer chainring position and I want to swap between an alfine and SS set up, the alfine uses the middle chainring position.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 11:09 pm
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I can never see the point in a ss hub other than it looks a bit neater


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 11:10 pm
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CK SS Disc rear - Faster engagement, quieter, [u]MUCH[/u] longer lasting IME


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 11:11 pm
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Much longer than what? Hope hubs go on near enough indefinitely ime.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 11:21 pm
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dt 240 ss, luvverly


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 11:48 pm
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I love my hope singlespeed hub. Been using it for months now with no trouble 8-9 hours a day 3 to 5 days a week. Serviced freehub once and it didn't need it really.


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 12:02 am
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Hope Pro 2 here too, and changed back to QR.

Bostin!


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 12:15 am
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I love my Hope SS hub. It engages very quickly (more pawls than standard pro 2) obviously this is mainly for trials riding, but it's really noticeable and is great for slow speed techy bits.

Actually, it has the same number of pawls as the standard one. I had one for ages on a jump bike and it was flawless. Love the loud noise too!
I WAY prefer the DT240ss right enough, but they are spendy! Also Profile do really nice ones, which turn up cheap from time to time...


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 12:29 am
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mudmonster - wow. what do you do to be singlespeeding for 8 hours a day, 3 to 5 times a week? I can be fairly confident about not needing to service mine for a long while yet!


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 12:49 am
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i think the bonty branded dt hubs are the 240 versin. bargain tastic. 2 years hard use and only serviced once, yesterday as it froze in the snow! Hope ss hub is very good but a little heavy and my bearings lasted less than a year, ask any regular welsh rider and they will agree!


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 1:53 pm
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skidsareforkids - yep, sorry - wrong terminology, you're right there are the same number of pawls, but the ss ones are off-set in pairs and so offer twice the number of engagment points compared to standard pro 2 hubs.

So 48 points of engagaement rather than the standard 24 - anyway, if you ride techy stuff ss, especially slowly it's noticeable! 😀

Though, I have to admit, I'd be very tempted to try Superstars' new ss set - at £140, they seem like an incredible bargain...


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 3:25 pm
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btw just had a email from SSC and the s/s hub is now £45

If I do not get a hope s/s for xmas I WILL order one


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 11:21 pm
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WI ENO. end of thread.


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 11:23 pm
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WI ENO. end of thread

I will be dammed for eternity for this but I have 2 WI freewheels and yes they are better than the Shimano freewheels but I still go through bearings too quickly for my liking.

Proper hubs here I come


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 11:50 pm
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[i]I have 2 WI freewheels and yes they are better than the Shimano freewheels but I still go through bearings too quickly for my liking.[/i]

what in god's name are you doing to them?
6 years and counting, original bearings. Grim gritty gloopy Peaks riding.


 
Posted : 23/12/2009 11:54 pm
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what in god's name are you doing to them

Dunno

definatly NOT putting too much power through the pedals, or using a jet wash

must be me because everyone else is happy with them


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 12:02 am
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just retired my first WI FW. in fairness, the bearing had been a bit wonky for a while, however it'd done three years, two very good quality chains, and one surly chainring, ( which i've now flipped ). if the bearing hadn't shagged, and the pawls weren't pretty done, and the outer been very close to finished ( inc. one broken off tooth ), i'd have serviced it and carried on with the same chain, chainring etc.
it's done [i]at least[/i] 30km, and 1250m rise and fall each week for three years, if not ridden two or three times that every week. the on-one hub it runs on has done all the same, and has had two sets of bearings ( just ) too.
if i was starting from scratch i might go the freehub/spacer/cog route, but the WI FW has worked very well for me, and i can get 'em cheap from the US, and the wheel i run 'em on is still in great shape.
happy. 🙂


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 12:36 am
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Loads of options and I have access to almost any hubs. BUT I tend to use 9 speed hubs with spacers

getting a perfect chainline is a breeze and swapping over the really rather excellent surly ss cogs is dead easy.

Only White industries screw on freewheels are any good (they are
excellent) on the screw on front. But they can be a sod to remove and cost about £68 each. Some of mine are 8 years old and still on original bearings with zero maintanence


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 1:40 am
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My 26er runs Hope with no issues, the 29er runs Phil Wood which I am still paying for make a nice noise like the Hope too.


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 1:43 pm
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Spot Brand SS hubs and WI FW make a good combo - so far anyway!


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 2:07 pm
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I've done WI freehubs and they're great. A bit of a faff (and pricey) to change ratios. Yes, I know..... 😯

Ran King for a while. But I find them OTT, special tools required to adjust and service, the freehubs have more drag than most others but admittedly not a problem SS wise. But pretty stupid sound, nice and light. I know people that have poroblems with the drive ring not engaging consistently.

I'm now on the very excllent Hope Pro II, I like to use British stuff, customer support is excellent, spares are easy to get. I've just done a bearing change fo a few quid, they get a highly recommended from me.


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 6:04 pm
 JB
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Thanks lads, decision is made just bought Hope Pro 2 SS on 717 rim. I've been running Hope Hubs for years they are pretty much bullet proof. Still using original XC rear with Titanium freehub that is now 5 years old, its had 2 sets of bearings in that time, but the pawls are now almost dead. I've also been using Surly front and rear chainrings for a while (bought from Charlie!!!), they too are utterly bullet proof and last for ever!


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 6:53 pm
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good choice, awsome hubs and great service from hope. enjoy!


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 6:55 pm
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JB

what deal did you get on the wheel??


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 6:55 pm
 JB
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Oh managed to get a set 2nd hand wheelset...


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 7:01 pm
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"I can never see the point in a ss hub other than it looks a bit neater "
The chainside spokes aren't under as much stress/load etc.. because of the change in angle, so should last longer, apparantly


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 7:45 pm
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Andy, I've got a black Pro2 SS built onto a WTB Speeddisc rim for sale if you're interested in it.


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 8:05 pm
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James. Yes in theory. In reality no one seems to have real issues with normal wheels


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 8:35 pm
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hope ss hub for me. 5 years in. one new freehub - bearings seized in...
very impressed with it, weight is not that much of an issue is it?


 
Posted : 24/12/2009 9:55 pm