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I'm waiting for the 1000'th post 😉
I have one living in the bottom of my 'instuctor' rucsac, but its never been used. It looks a little too much like suffering for my liking. I have a Marmot Atom that only weighs 400gms, so would much rather go with that. Its a little slice of luxury. Go on and treat your self to a light down bag. You won't regret it. I know I don't!!
The current Marmot Atom weighs 600g?
Perhaps I have it wrong, but it is an older model without a full length zip.
A full length zip on it's own weighs 120-140g, anything sub 400g is likely to have no zip at all. Pop it on the scales 🙂
That Furtech site looks interesting, they are making some bold claims. I'm not sure why the first line of their description likens it to 'Waking up to the sound of snap crackle and pop'!! Not the best selling point really. It's also a shame it needs vacuum packing to get it down to a decent size.
Just for anyone who cares and all those stuck at work.
Flatfish and myself will be heading out into the Welsh hills this afternoon for a couple of days bikepacking. To make you feel better, take heart in the fact that first thing in the morning we'll be tackling the highest road pass in Wales ... it's a 1 in 5 and somewhere around 3k long and Flatfish doesn't know yet 😉
Have a good weekend.
That Furtech site looks interesting, they are making some bold claims. I'm not sure why the first line of their description likens it to 'Waking up to the sound of snap crackle and pop'!!
I thought that was a negative point too!
Not the best selling point really. It's also a shame it needs vacuum packing to get it down to a decent size.
Looks like more of an emergent bag or bag to be used on an adventure race. Hopefully by the time you sleep some food will be gone so freeing up a little pack space? (A guess never done one of these races)
Still I might get one and try it on a summers night, it's nice not to have to worry about damaging a expensive down bag.
Have a good 'un then guys. We've got a full moon Dartmoor one next weekend (come rain or shine). In the meantime I'm limbering up by cooking my lunch at work using homemade meths/solid fuel burners and freezer bags.
Please can someone help free me from these stupid lightweight/MYOG experimental obsessions. I've got a couple of perfectly good Trangias at home 😉
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Don't ask for help slugwash ... rejoice in the nerdyness 😀
I'll second that (been lurking round these parts for a while admiring all the inspirational work).
What's that you've used for the windshield/cone slugwash?
Flatfish and myself will be heading out into the Welsh hills this afternoon for a couple of days bikepacking. To make you feel better, take heart in the fact that first thing in the morning we'll be tackling the highest road pass in Wales ... it's a 1 in 5 and somewhere around 3k long and Flatfish doesn't know yet
Have fun chaps, already looking forward to a picture heavy report on your return 8)
highest road pass in Wales
Assume your scouting you're deff going north for the WRT then?
That'll save me some money on maps then 🙂
Not really scouting but I might cast my eye over a few things whilst out and about 😉
Good luck with the adventure this weekend I believe Steve is intending joining up with you tomorrow, sorry I can't make this one I've got to teach the little one the art of single speed balance biking 😀
Aye that's right Valleydaddy, Steve shall be joining the merry band in the morning ... just in time for the climb!
It's nice to know you're starting the young un's off in the right direction ... single speed 😉
Indeed 😉
Steve will probably drive his camper van up to the top 😆
I hope his new kit and inbred serves him well
No bugger told me about a 1 in 5 climb - I thought this was supposed to be fun!
Pete - we can catch up and do a local one - what do you reckon on the Doethie Valley routes in the last STW? - I think you know the area better than me
@Steve Yes that's a great idea Steve with the nights getting later we could make a later start to avoid family issues 😉
Good luck tomorrow, let me know how the bags and bar mount works out and don't forget to take some pics
MrSparkle - Member
Any thoughts on this? http://www.furtech.co.uk/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=10
I used something similar in a Polaris a few years back. Basically, avoid if at all possible.
I got through the night but it was pretty damn uncomfortable - very noisy (think a thousand crisp packets being scrunched next to your ears, all night), not breathable and not particularly warm.
Also, once you've opened the packet you'll never get it back to anywhere near the same size, and it was quite fragile material. A bit of a one time only job really.
Cheers Blake, 'sgood to know.
apologies if this has already been asked - can anyone recommend a lightish cheapish sleeping bag for bikepacking duties?
700gish 1 season sythetic bags can be had for around £30, in fact my synthetic Karrimor was reduced to £13 in Blacks end of season sale. Tesco and Decathalon would be a good place to start for real budget bags. Tesco also do a summer down/feather/sythetic mix for about £40 iirc, but they seem to sell out fast.
One of the main issues with cheap sythetics is their pack size compared with down. For example my down summer bag is about 1/4 the packed volume of the Karrimor I mentioned above and has a slightly warmer rating, but then it cost 15 times as much.
Someone will be along soon to give you example of a more mid-range bag, but I tend to either buy cheap and cheerful or save up for very expensive.
valleydaddy - Member
email in profile if you want to discuss off forum 😉
Did do, not sure if I got lost in junk mail 🙂
BuggyBags.co.uk has been working up a prototype framebag for me over the last few weeks.
Still a work in progress but here's the first attempt
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More to come soon, and Jon at BuggyBags would love to here from you if you're interested.
Did do, not sure if I got lost in junk mail
I did reply did you get a email from me???
Plodtv email me again I seem to have lost the email you sent me, I did reply via my blackberry or so I thought 🙁
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-rab-ascent-bivi-bag
just in case anyone is looking for one 😉
Just buy a Snugpak
Hi all
I'm new to this and looking to get some kit together for some bivvying trips during spring and summer. I wondered what people thought of either of these two sleeping bags from Mountain Warehouse:
[url= http://www.mountainwarehouse.com/camping/sleeping-bags/1-2-season-sleeping-bags/microlite-500-sleeping-bag-p1944.aspx ]Microlite 500[/url]
[url= http://www.mountainwarehouse.com/camping/sleeping-bags/3-4-season-sleeping-bags/microlite-700-sleeping-bag-p2761.aspx ]Microlite 700[/url]
The 500 is only a kilo and is qute small in its stuff sack. It says its comfort temp is 5 degrees so figured I could use a bag liner if in case it gets cold overnight.
Also would you advise using a bivvy bag under a basha type shelter? If so how well do army surplus bivi's & basha's do in your opinion?
Cheers All 🙂
Both those bags are cheep bags with synthetic insulation. The Microlite 500 would IMHO only be suitable for indoor use, the Microlite 700 may be ok, but is heavy, and may be uncomfortable when warm.
The Microlite 500 would IMHO only be suitable for indoor use,
I had a look at one yesterday at their Plymouth store and it would be okay for summer use in the UK in a tent or bivibag. I've slept out in the rain in July in an even less insulated Trekmates Microfleece sleeping bag liner and a bivi bag and was more than comfortable (the round-the-campfire scrumpy session might have helped though 😉 )
You can often pick up the liners at T K Maxx for under a tenner.
[url= http://www.trekmates.co.uk/549/Trekmates-Microfleece-Sleeping-Bag-Liner.html?referrer=froogle&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid549 ]Trekmates Microfleece[/url]
I'm going to test my Snugpak Travel Lite bag (along with the Trekmates liner) up on Dartmoor next weekend to see how that'll cope with the cooler Spring temperatures. The Snugpak bag's intended for warmer foreign travel and UK Summer use, but it packs down tiny. I'll be taking emergency thermal underwear as backup though 🙂
[url= http://www.snugpak.com/index.php?MenuID=114-119&ItemID=149 ]Snugpak Travel Lite[/url]
BTW, Mountain Warehouse have LS Merino zip collar baselayers reduced to £20 at the moment. Like all MW clothes the styling and cut looks a bit suspect but they might do if you're currently after something like that.
So, my kitlist so far is:
Alpkit Hunka bivvy bag and Base Mat with Cumulus Ultralight 350 Sleeping Bag, reckon that's the sleeping bit sorted for just under 2kg.
Now thinking of the cooking bit - I want an easy 1 person set up for low level 2/3 season use and am looking at something like the Primus EtaSolo or Jetboil, I know there's cheaper ways to cook but I fancy a bit of high tech luxury 🙂
I've used both the Primus ETA and the Jetboil. The Jetboil was a miserable experience a over priced kettle, the ignition is poor and fails, at altitude in was really crap and almost got hurled of the mountain (in case you ever want to take it mountaineering). Best setup I found for gas is the [url= http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/optimus-products/products/katadynshopconnect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-crux/ ]Optimus Crux[/url] and would sooner invest in a setup like the [url= http://www.expeditionhardware.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=312 ]Optimus Crux Weekend HE Cook System[/url], I fit a gas cartridge, crux, and folding spork easily into a MSR Ti Kettle.
That weekend system looks good, thanks for the link 🙂
stayhigh - MemberHi all
I'm new to this and looking to get some kit together for some bivvying trips during spring and summer. I wondered what people thought of either of these two sleeping bags from Mountain Warehouse:
Microlite 500
Microlite 700
The 500 is only a kilo and is qute small in its stuff sack. It says its comfort temp is 5 degrees so figured I could use a bag liner if in case it gets cold overnight.
Also would you advise using a bivvy bag under a basha type shelter? If so how well do army surplus bivi's & basha's do in your opinion?
Cheers All
I wouldn't bother with them even on a budget.
What I'd get (have, apart from I don't have the sleeping bag)
[url= http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-7415.aspx ]
Tesco Down bag £39[/url] Down & only 800grms!
[url= http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16312&category_id=253 ]Alpkit Hunka bivi bag £35[/url]
[url= http://www.ddhammocks.com/products/tarps/tarp ]D&D 3x3 tarp £30[/url]
I am looking forward to some pics from the 3 amigos who are adventuring this weekend 😉
The weather in S.Wales is superb this morning so hopefully it's the same where they are 8)
Snugpak Travel Lite.
I have used this last July on C2C and last weekend on the North Yorks Moors to Coast.
It has a great size and weight but it just is not warm enough!
On both occasions I have spent the night wearing every item of clothing I had!
I am going to bite the bullet and buy the Softie 3.
Snugpak Travel Lite.
I have used this last July on C2C and last weekend on the North Yorks Moors to Coast.
It has a great size and weight but it just is not warm enough!
Hmmm, I might take my Vango Venom 150 along as an extra liner just in case.
One reason I was taking the Travelite was to check out how it coped with bivi-bag condensation. A problem in colder months (or when midges abound) 'cos you end up breathing inside with your head retracted from the cold or insects. Not too much of a problem on a one nighter, but potentially more difficult on a multi-day bivi trip if bad weather dosen't allow you to dry out your down bag.
Tesco Down bag £39 Down & only 800grms!
Also, in the Slugwash family sleeping bag collection is a Tesco down bag. Much sneered at by some of my RAB loving backwoodsman friends, but they miss the point. It costs less than £40 and you don't have to worry too much about it around campfires, etc. (a dog chewed mine and I just shrugged my shoulders and patched it up with spinnaker tape. I'd have been crying for weeks and up on a charge of extreme animal cruelty if it had been a £200 designer bag). It packs down small and does the job. I've used mine in the Picos de Europa, on the OMM and on Autumn/Spring camping on Dartmoor and Snowdonia. My only real critiscm is it needs a silk or polycotton liner if you're not wearing any clothes as the inner material's not too comfortable next to the skin.
The ones in Tesco at Ivybridge today were labelled as weighing 900grammes.
...That's two day's in a row now that I've gone into chain stores and 'fondled' cheap sleeping bags 😯
The Snugpak Traval Lite head net was great for the midges last year,although odd at first as it is unsupported so lays on your face.
I have seen the Tesco down bag and I can not work out how they do it for the money?
I've got a Vango Wilderness 250 and http://www.vango.co.uk/sleeping-bags/wilderness-250.html do you tink its going to be warm enough for WRT with maybe a liner in it, Bivi (MOD version)???
Or do I buy one of those Tesco Jobs??
Vango reckon 8 degrees, so at the end of May you should be alright ... however a liner wouldn't go a miss. I've been using a Sea to Summit Reactor Extreme liner all winter with good results. They do a lighter thermal liner too.
How did the trip go??
Stu's back and I think he's left Taylor and Steve to fend for themselves 😯
We had a good time ta fellas ... don't let anyone tell you different 😉
Long day yesterday at 12 hours in the saddle for flatfish and myself and 10 for Steve. Rain last night but everyones kit stood up to it without problem. Cracking day today weather wise but we managed an early finish by pushing on into the dark last night.
wow that was severe then 😯
how was "the climb"???
I wouldn't describe it as 'climb' ... long, long, long push describes it slightly better 😀