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nice bronson but ditch the blue and have black look brill with all black bits where you have blue
Stung by the criticism that 'Super Bikes' don't have XT components I went and put an XX1 drive train on mine to push it into this elusive group (and a Float X shock)...
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Oh, I forgot the brakes...Bol#@#ks
Well done. XT brakes are admissible, they're very good after all.
Womp, I looked past the cable management in an effort to maximise their excellent customer care, I know you shouldn't have to but they do look after you, a bit like Hope, all Hope on my bright yellow nomad the black on yellow does look 8)
It's got XT cranks, shifters and rear mech so I can't add pictures as its not a superbike,
I can't add pictures as its not a superbike,
Oh teh ironing! Where's that post where you were making snide comments telling everyone you were awesome because you buy expensive bikes...!?
Don't be a cock ! Snap out of your self styled status of Forum god and remember its about riding bikes not belittling people on the Internet with your superior holier than thou attitude, I don't think it was snide ? I don't remember telling any one I was awesome and I think I can remember mentioning something about buying expensive bikes as some one was asking the question ?
Without going into painful detail and as demonstrated a week after that post I made, a guy with a £4K cube was told he didn't have a warranty claim 4 weeks into ownership and a few rides in ?
My theory was and still is buy cheap buy twice, I do spend a lot of money on bikes but 3 years into owning a Santa Cruz I had a frame warrantied and got a brand new frame, that's what I pay, service and after care,
Please add the post in a link below of what i actually said so we can all see your skills as a forum elite MTB'er you can add bits in bold to your express your dissatisfaction and also add speech marks exclamation marks and more superior wit and humour,
I bow to excellence and self styled moderation !
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Now now children.
Maybe this childish bickering goes hand in hand with owning a 'superbike' 😮
Maybe this childish bickering goes hand in hand with owning a 'superbike'
Nah, just with being on STW 😉
Please add the post in a link below of what i actually said
Ok. Taken from [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/haggling-for-a-new-bike ]here[/url]. You said (in reference to LBSs):
at the end of the day if the likes of me don't spend 5 grand on bikes and hundreds on kit they would struggle to employ the staff and maintain a healthy business.
and, despite not a single comment even insuinuating anything to the contrary you then said:
I appologise if spending £5K on a bike is beyond your reasoning
You were about the only one on that thread who felt the need to boast about what you've spent (and that really is all it is), so the fact you're now saying your bike isn't worth of this thread amuses me. That's all.
Is forum elite akin to Big Hitter (TM)? Have I made it now?!
Anyway, back OT... Yeti looks excellent, needs a Kashima dropper though, for consistency!
Stewartc,
Does your bike move at all on that gearing ?
Looks like a 30t ring? 10-42 cassette, low gear is akin to the triples of yore.
does having a room full of bikes that cumulatively add up to being worth about 5 grand count?
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I don't think that XT stops a bike being a super bike TBH! If its all based upon cost a Santa Cruz carbon bike (any of them!) =2.6k, fox fork 900, Dropper 300, Enve wheels=1800 plus bars stems finish kit and full XT is well over the original 5k "super bike" limit!
The stipulated threshold was £4500. So which is more 'super' - an XTR equipped Canyon or an XT equipped SC, assuming the same cost?
njee20 - Member
The stipulated threshold was £4500. So which is more 'super' - an XTR equipped Canyon or an XT equipped SC, assuming the same cost?
Touché Sir! The boutique factor can and does blur things some what, but both are still a lush bit of kit so a score draw! 😈
Mmm, interesting question really isn't it - there's a perceived 'value' of the SC which makes it seem more 'super'!
Rickmeister - I wasn't aware these bike were meant to be ridden!
Need a a 30t chainring as I climb a lot of steep mountains here (typically 350-450mtr plus) to actually get to the trails, so far it seems OK on the flat bits as well.
The gearing is close to that of my old 2x10 setup, and even without the low granny gear the difference did not seem that noticeable on my test ride this weekend (the deathly silence was noticeable though).
Yep the perception of the brand adds value, if it adds performance is another question.
Interesting thought does brand perception add value ? I'd agree with Wookster thoughts TBH and seeing as the does it add performance question is so subjective I never even considered it when making my original post.
When I plucked the £4500 price I was probabilly wrong to do so and was thinking that's the price of the better value superbikes eg. Canyons dripping with Carbon, XTR, Kaskima ect (which I see are now only £4000)
So does XT belong on a superbike ? In my mind no that was not my intention when originally posting, I was thinking of top spec silly builds really.
Just had a look at an XTR Kashima tallboy £6200!!
So £1000 cheaper than an S-Works, bargain!
Simple:
Canyon's definitely not.
XT no (maybe the brakes but nothing else).
Not enough big hitters on this thread
I'm a skateboarder, always will be, so I should really like santa cruz bikes.... I just don't.
Dirtyrider's Scalpel is probably my favourite here. "Proper" superbike in that aswell as it being damn expensive and light, you are highly unlikely to ever see anything else the same.
My all time favourite is [url= http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=113898&hilit=funk ]here[/url]. Again, another "proper" superbike 😀
A superbike in my eyes is a no expense spared machine with lots or personal and unique touches you are unlikely to see anywhere else. A £6000 S-Works/ Santa Cruz/ whatever is still not a superbike in my eyes if anyone else can buy one off the shelf. I'll never own a superbike so am probably just jealous.
There are alot of bikes that clearly have a lot of thought put in to them speccing interesting and unique mixes of components and these are closer to superbikes as far as I see it than a bike that is "just" expensive. Some cracking bikes in this thread! 😀
Wonny j why no canyons ?
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Morewood Kalula complete bike. It's pretty much stock, apart from the SLX brakes, grips and tyres.
Thanks Stewartc, I'm just about to build up a Tranny ht and was wondering which way to go, we have a 507m climb out of the back door of the house...
Dont think this really qualifies, but its the best bike I have owned, and is comparble to some that have been posted.
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Yup no Canyons or Cubes.
Purely a personal dislike of mass produced, big german direct sales outfits. Knocked out in their thousands in a Taiwanese factory.
A superbike frame should have an element of something extra special.
That Canyon looks like a trek fuel rip off. And is not particularly special. The Turners and Independent Fabrications on the other hand are lovely.
XT no (maybe the brakes but nothing else).
My bike has XT brakes and drivetrain. Still over £4500 worth (at retail). Couldn't care less if it's considered a "superbike" though.
Maybe we should start a none superbike thread, that have XT parts (Not Brakes)
Yup no Canyons or Cubes.Purely a personal dislike of mass produced, big german direct sales outfits. Knocked out in their thousands in a Taiwanese factory.
Cube aren't direct sales, Canyon are just as mass produced as most of the others on here. you not posting your bike?
Wouldn't a 'super bike' be either the top end model from any manufacturer (bespoke or mass produced) fitted with the top end components from any component manufacturer (bespoke or mass produced), say an S-Works Enduro with Enve wheelset/cockpit kit, XX1 drivetrain and XTR brakes (plucking an example out of the air)?
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It doesn’t look quite as pristine as this now – been used all round the UK for events like the Dyfi, HONC and even the odd XC race, and just come back from doing the PPdS and a week in the Basque. It’s ‘super’ to ride, and incredibly versatile
Cube aren't direct sales, Canyon are just as mass produced as most of the others on here. you not posting your bike?
No way. My bikes are a long way off "super". Far too much slx and xt!
my sheep version 2, now with lovely torus/burls titanium forks and 29+ front. 😀
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Ego chariots not allowed 😉
damn it! mind you, I have no ego...could I have it as "shy and retiring chariot" please?
not sure if this counts, but is probably the prettiest bit of scandyummy and carbon weight weenie SS race rocket that I've owned
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This is it, it's all I have.
Corratec Team Bow frame, carbon forks, wobbly ring, Avid cable discs - simple, light and a joy to ride, it's better than super, it's reet grand.
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phil56
Which Devinci is that?
I've been pleased with my Dexter but the lure of CF is always there.
16.5 lbs baby!!!
Lost 1100g+ with the RDO fork, the fork feels crazy light.
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That funk - WOW!
Also niner^ not trying hard enough - surely loose the stickers on rims and metal bar plugs?
Yeah the bar end plugs could go and are a hang over from my previous build.
I am in the lots of small weight losses zone now, I could change the RX brakes to R1s but that is a a fair old chunk of cash for a small weight loss.
I have been looking at a Tune saddle to lose about 125g but loathed to take an expensive punt replacing a saddle I can do centuries on with not a sore in site
I could change the rear cog to allow me to run a 9 speed lightweight chain
Ti bolts through out, replace the Ti 1 pedals (with upgraded axles) to Ti3/4s (but a bit pricey)
I could lost half a pound or more on the tyres but the flint around here tears them up so a pointless bit of weight saving.
hmmmm as if I haven't spent enough 😆