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[Closed] Shimano Saint pedals. Bit rubbish?

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Probably put about 500 miles on the Shimano Saint pedals which I put on my new Giant Trance.

Unless anyone can tell me otherwise, I honestly think I would nave been better off with either splashing some more cash on Hopes, sticking with good ole Superstar Nanos, or even the slightly dated , but brilliant, Gusset Slim Jim mags.

Saints have developed a lot of play already , will strip them down one evening, but really am surprised. Anyone else had this?

My old Slim Jims took way over 2000 miles to develop any play at all.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 8:35 pm
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Anyone else had this?

Many people - disappointing show from Shimano


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 8:50 pm
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Yeah me. Warranty return job.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 8:55 pm
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I got brand new ones, one felt tight but I put it on anyway. After about 50 miles/1 week it was worse so I got a replacement. New ones feel fine though.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 8:58 pm
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They are chuffing useless.... Got involved with a thread a while back... See here

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/is-this-pedal-repairable

Same as saints.... Bush pressed into drive side. Wears quickly.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 8:59 pm
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Be ready to catch the thousand little ball bearings that jump out on stripping,mine are actually ok after a stripping down,they have play but nothing to cry about,won't be binning them yet......touch wood


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 8:59 pm
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Interesting. Thanks folks !
Did a quick search, but couldn't find the previous thread , sorry !


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 9:05 pm
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Better grip than my nano's, but crap bearing/bushes..
One 20 mile ride was all that it took to get mine clicking again..
Tighten them up 20 miles later, click click bloody click!
Garbage!!!


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 9:06 pm
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For balance, no problems from mine, a year in.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 9:10 pm
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Mine have been fine for almost two years. I have regressed them the lazy way by just putting grease in the body and reattaching. But I've not had to adjust the bearings.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 10:12 pm
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I've had mine for three years. They've done double duty on my bikes. Dirty, muddy, mileage on the hardtail and smashing down the Alps on the DH bike.

Still fine.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 10:27 pm
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They weigh a ton (relatively speaking). SS or Exotic for me every time.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 10:33 pm
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Mine are 12 months old and doing fine. Had to adjust the bearings to eliminate clicking once - they are a bit touchy to get right - but otherwise no problem.


 
Posted : 10/08/2015 10:38 pm
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Hmm, now my second set is faulty, the right pedal is knocking. Only had about a weeks commuting!


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 7:18 pm
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I bought some last year, RH pedal had excessive play out of the box.
The replacements from CRC have been fine for over a year. Great pedals apart from the surprising variable quality.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 7:36 pm
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The thing is that you CAN adjust the play out fairly easily and it won't cost a penny, unlike new cartridges in some other pedals.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 7:38 pm
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There was no way to adjust the play out of my brand new wobbly Saint.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 7:51 pm
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They're cup and cone axles - you just remove the body by removing the sleeve nut at the axle side to reveal the axle assembly. No reason why you couldn't adjust it out.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 8:16 pm
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I took the pedal in bits and adjusted it as far as I could. There was still play.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 8:22 pm
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Cheap, heavy and rubbish-what did you expect?


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 8:25 pm
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better then most for the price, mine are 31 months old, been cleaned and greased once, and by strava estimate done 2400 miles?

in all weathers, cup and cone makes it easy to adjust any play

not rubbish, by any means


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 8:30 pm
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No user experience but I serviced a pr last week and loved the design and adjustable cup n cone.
Care is needed with ball bearings but I was impressed. As with anything I think you need to keep on top of the play let it get too far and it's game over . currently available for £35 I'd take a punt but been using nanos for years and reluctant to use anything else


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 8:34 pm
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The issue is not with the cup and cone bearing arrangement. This is fine and can be adjusted. It's the other end that's the problem... A polymer bush is pressed into an ally housing and the seal is very poor. Ride regularly in rain / mud and rubbish and dirt will get in to this bush and Wear it away. When it wears, you will start to get play... You can run for a while, strip and pack with grease but eventually they will die.

One tip (actually given to me by a shimano tech after I sent them a load of pics) was to sandwhich a thick o ring (3-4 mm) between the axle flange and end of the bush. They may have changed the design of the drive side seal by now too as I have read a shed load of people have had problems.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 9:06 pm
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As I said yeterday, I will have a look at mine later in the week, but riding this evening, tomorrow and beer feasting on Thursday means fri earliest.
I'm happy to keep an open mind until I have chance to look, but am just a bit dismayed that they need fettling so soon.
By the way, as a pedal, shoe interface they are really good, I just don't want to have to service bloody pedals three or four times a year, when there are those which don't need it.


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 9:11 pm
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shame you are having issues, hope they are sorted, but get them replaced if they are inside 12 month of purchase?

have read of issues, but when they are "right" they are sorted!

my fav bit is the spikes in the middle of the pedal, give massive grip!?


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 9:14 pm
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Oh dear, I have a pair waiting in the bits box which I bought when particularly cheap at CRC. I was waiting for my cheapo Nukeproofs to die but they keep going and going hence unused Saints. Maybe O should have bought some more Electrons!


 
Posted : 11/08/2015 10:15 pm
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They may have changed the design of the drive side seal by now too as I have read a shed load of people have had problems.

A closer look at mine and the drive side seal is weeping grease (as well as the knocking). Can't have done more than 60 miles commuting on them.

Looks like CRC will be getting this set back as well. Disappointing as my mate has them with no issues at all.


 
Posted : 12/08/2015 10:10 am