[Closed] See? You CAN ride everything on a hardtail. If you're brilliant.

On a similar note

I'm out on my hardtail tonight, and I should imagine I will be riding it with similar silky smooth finesse. Yes... pretty much exactly like that. Possibly

Excellent stuff binners, I'll bring my video camera along tonight then shall I?

Well it might be a nice little earner. How much do they pay per clip on You've Been Framed?

nice pinkbike vid

it is a shame it looks wierd to be watching a hardtail in those vids, should be more hardtails in the MTB film stuff generally

I don't doubt they are brilliant riders and make it look effortless but I didn't see anything too taxing in the first vid for any capable hardtail rider.

I was thinking that... I mean, I'd be slower and more cowardly obviously, and far less interesting to watch but unless the camera lies, there's nothing in there I wouldn't happily ride on my hardtail.

I suspect there would be slightly more tree/bike interface scenes in my version of that

I'm not seeing anything in there that's more difficult than say Inners, Dalbeattie or Kirroughtree tourist routes. It's a nice trail, but not out of this world in terms of difficulty.

It's pretty, but that video is doing my head in. Why do they have to cut shots every second or so?

binners - Member

I suspect there would be slightly more tree/bike interface scenes in my version of that

That's what I was thinking too 😉

Reminds me of riding there on my Global hardtail with Shiver SC's back in the day.

Rode Rose Hill in Kamloops on it too, before they flattened it. And a lot of the 'Shore too.

The only differences are the fact you'll ride it faster on a full sus and that you need to take more breaks as you get beaten up a lot more (oh and you might not send it quite so far on the hardtail either, although maybe that was just me).

Film does tend to flatten and make things look smaller, so I'm guessing that the trails are, in reality probably it little more technical than they appear 😉

See? You CAN ride everything on a hardtail.

Where did anyone say that you couldn't btw?

Binners I presume your handle bars will be red, folks could get the wrong idea.

I'm not seeing anything in there that's more difficult than say Inners, Dalbeattie or Kirroughtree tourist routes. It's a nice trail, but not out of this world in terms of difficulty.

TROLOLOLOLOL....

This explains why so many Brits go to Whistler to ride 'XC' every year, only to take their bikes on four hour walks for two weeks 😆

4 hour walks, surely that's what chairlifts are for?

oh the XC trails, some of them are proper hardcore. and brilliant.

Two hours walking up.....and then two hours walking down.

I wish I was joking! I was an XC guide in 2007. People watch vids like this, think it looks easy and fun so come over.

I wish I was joking! I was an XC guide in 2007

You got a proper job yet? 😉

walleater - Member

People watch vids like this, think it looks easy and fun so come over.

I don't think it looks that easy, but I'm comfortable I could do it. Is that allowed ? 😉 There's a lot of stuff over there that I wouldn't say that of.

I enjoyed the vid, nice riding. I think the video did flatten stuff out, and also some of the stuff that looked effortless at speed would have been tricky / unridable going slow.

You got a proper job yet?

There's no need to rush these things is there? 😉

I enjoyed watching that.

Another vid of the same guy:

Awesome video and watching those guys ride always makes me wonder why I'm bothering riding a full sus haha. I remember following Jinya down Dirt Merchant last year and just couldn't keep up on my Bullit despite all the braking bumps. He has serious skills.

And yes the valley trails are a lot harder than they look in videos.

Indeed you can but I bet those trails are steep enough to scare me a fair bit even if I could get down them inelegantly... Jinya is awesome, I can't count the number of times I've watched "Hardtail at Whistler" (although it doesn't look as improbably amazing as it used to, so I must be getting faster!)

My mate took his bog standard Rockhopper to morzine with us, and did all the runs we did including the blacks. Granted he was pretty slow, but not that slow and he still made it down!

Given hes only been riding for a year I was impressed

Even more impressively, I was staggered that the bike actually held up, other than a disintgrating wheel half way down the canyon in les getz..

Thanks for posting that.. great vid. That guy has skills. A bit like watching Kranked 2 all over again - it looks do-able but in reality it's only cos he's riding so damn well. The second vid realman posted, you can see how exact he is with his lines. Knows the run backwards. I'd be bounced off-line and off the track in no time )

nice vids and trails. HT riding looks a lot more rad and stylish to my eyes.

This film is a bit home video of some Danish xc lads but at 3mins they are doing some pretty big gaps and jumps with saddle well, xc styles. Most stuff I try to tell myself is all in the mind, unfortunately my mind is too old a worried ..

Both vids overshadowed for me by the decision to replace the sounds of the trail with muzaac a la Top Gear. Shame.

Love those videos, the Hardtail In Whistler is a classic and a good riposte to people who say long forked hardtails arent good for anything....they are fun bikes, pure and simple....they'll never be as fast across country as a dedicated XC bike and they'll never be as fast downhill as a FS-DH machine but they are simple easy to maintain and loads of fun, surely thats what its about?

Enjoyed the first vid very much:

LoCo - Member

Film does tend to flatten and make things look smaller, so I'm guessing that the trails are, in reality probably it little more technical than they appear

+1
Some of the speed over obstacles and into corners was double your average decent rider speed. Admittedly they probably sessioned the same bits again and again, but still. Looking good on video takes a lot of skill full stop.

Love those videos, the Hardtail In Whistler is a classic and a good riposte to people who say long forked hardtails arent good for anything....they are fun bikes, pure and simple....they'll never be as fast across country as a dedicated XC bike and they'll never be as fast downhill as a FS-DH machine

Long forks on hardtails are gash

add "never flow, turn, pump or jump as well as a short travel 4X/DJ hardtail" to your list too.

9, Tell us about your bike/s?
Chromag prototype frame with Rockshox lyrik soloair lowered to 150mm

That's a long fork.

http://www.hardtailnation.co.uk/2010/12/who-are-you-13/

Edit: And here he is riding his long-forked hardtail.

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Long forks on hardtails are gash

This

The vid of the danish xc guys is mental!

HaHaHa at all the STW dads that reckon that they could ride those particular trails in Whistler and Pemberton on a hardtail. There are a couple of big committment lines in there that they make look easy. Ive not ridden with Jinya but I have ridden with Phelps and he is a real animal with mad skills, if he is riding that trail its going to be the gnarliest line around. He use to race Psychosis DH in Golden every year on his hardtail, check out the videos of how steep that is.

I don't doubt they are brilliant riders and make it look effortless but I didn't see anything too taxing in the first vid for any capable hardtail rider.

+1

GW, be quiet.

"Chromag prototype frame with Rockshox lyrik soloair lowered to 150mm [b] and set up stiff so as not to use all 150mm and ruin the handling[/b]"

😉

At 1:30-ish in this video you can see him getting most of the travel out of them. We can argue about how much exactly if you like, what else is there to do on a sunny Friday? 😉

Great riding, but I have to agree, long forks on a hardtail arent so nice. They also tend to turn the riders into mincers.

Last time I was up glentress there was some muppet (he was wearing oakley sun glasses in the bike park) on a long forked cotic, he couldnt even clear all the table tops! What a mong. Then he tried to ride the skinny sections and had to jump off halfway along.

Thought about trying to give him some advice but he was to busy trying to look cool.

Thought about trying to give him some advice but he was to busy trying to look cool.

What's wrong with that ?

he was wearing oakley sun glasses in the bike park

Flipping heck. What a total noob! i would have punched him there and then.