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Is that different to deleted? Still works for me.

Jay from Inbetweeners on a bike? Seems about right.


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 11:45 am
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to be fair ive just seen the price on these and i can understand why they are popular giving its cheaper than most ebikes!


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 12:03 pm
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Is that different to deleted? Still works for me.

If you've got the link it works, but won't appear in search or in channel lists.


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 12:26 pm
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Sterling work from Chorley Police on this subject:

😀


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 3:40 pm
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The comments on that post above are a joy. Most people seem to think it's a e-bike so are saying either; a) leave them alone you nasty rozzer and catch some real criminals, or b) cyclists are all scum / "road tax" / insurance / child's face / baby robin etc etc etc


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 4:37 pm
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Will the Chorley cops crush the bike or sell it to another idiot at auction?


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 11:09 pm
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The comments on that post above are a joy. Most people seem to think it’s a e-bike so are saying either; a) leave them alone you nasty rozzer and catch some real criminals, or b) cyclists are all scum / “road tax” / insurance / child’s face / baby robin etc etc etc

The irony of course being that in law it is an unregistered, unlicensed, and non type approved motor vehicle but the frothers won't accept/see that.


 
Posted : 06/04/2021 11:42 pm
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The comments on that post above are a joy.

Depresses the hell out of me that these people are out there hating away.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 7:28 am
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I frequent the public Facebook page of these cretins to laugh at their spelling, grammar and whining when their illegal Mx bikes get taken away. Very funny.

It seems the idiot referenced, duxal, is now selling his due to not enough places to ride and will be buying an emtb instead.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 8:22 am
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The comments on that post above are a joy.

I didn't really see what you said you did there. Mostly people saying the Sur-ron rider was a knob and well done to the police.

That owners' group page is interesting, there's a thread about the Rivington incident above.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 9:38 am
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Yup, the famous Duxel bike for sale:


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 9:55 am
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the famous Duxel bike for sale

Ah, now they're the comments to read to see the mentality of riders of these things. "Ah duh 😛 "


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 10:00 am
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Yup, the famous Duxel bike for sale:

At least he seems to have realised he cant ride it where he thought he could, so looks like he's done the right thing - eventually


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 10:05 am
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I see the sale includes the usual upgraded 'peddles' and 'breaks'.

Another for sale with 24 miles on the clock, owner has realised that there is nowhere to ride it too by the look of it.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 11:19 am
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Seeing as it's on YouTube, and linked to a Facebook profile, surely that's an easy win for the local police?

I know TVP were up at Mapeldurham dealing with electric motor bikes last week but I don't think Swinley is their area?


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 4:23 pm
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Swinley is TVP, but its also crown estate so maybe liz could set the corgis on them.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 4:32 pm
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Swinley is Surrey Police.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 9:42 pm
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The Berks/Surrey border is straight through the middle of Swinley. Clubhouse is Surrey, all the blue is Berks.


 
Posted : 07/04/2021 10:12 pm
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The irony of course being that in law it is an unregistered, unlicensed, and non type approved motor vehicle but the frothers won’t accept/see that.

Not really seeing the point as why anyone cares if its legal or not ...
Everyone seems to just pick and choose what laws they follow anyway and its more to do with Rule #1 (IMHO). I illegally soldered some stuff yesterday using lead solder ... frankly do I give a toss as my health is more important to me than whether I'm breaking the law or not.

I have a full time rear camera on the van as I end up driving through lots of roady places where they legally sit 1'-2' off my bumper in the blind spot... again do I give a flying f---- if its illegal?

There is nothing legal against e-bikes riding up designated push-ups for example but deliberately ramming people and pushing out of the way is (IMHO) breaking Rule #1.

This is however just IMHO.. in their opinion they bought an e-bike to ride up push-ups and the people in the way are (presumably) being dicks by not buying an ebike.

to be fair ive just seen the price on these and i can understand why they are popular giving its cheaper than most ebikes!

Presumably because buying an e-bike is a status symbol ... so e-bike owners are unhappy when a cheaper better product is available?

I still find it ironic that people who DRIVE to SWINLEY have the audacity to define e-bikes or these E-motor bikes as cheating ...


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 12:00 pm
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I still find it ironic that people who DRIVE to SWINLEY have the audacity to define e-bikes or these E-motor bikes as cheating

Christ almighty it’s not difficult they are motorcycles, they are not ebikes. Sauron sell them as motorcycles. Just as I can’t use my car, van or motorcycles on swinley trails, on pavements or through pedestrian areas they can’t be used either and thats got f all to do with “cheating”


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 12:18 pm
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I have a full time rear camera on the van as I end up driving through lots of roady places where they legally sit 1′-2′ off my bumper in the blind spot… again do I give a flying f—- if its illegal?

WTF are you dribbling on about?


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 12:25 pm
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It does 50mph and can be seen damaging the trails in one of the vids. Carried on doing it after being asked not to by locals and invited his mates down to do the same.

It’s pretty simple.

He’s crashed it into the back of a parked van and left the scene. Where I used to work, the excess for any body damage to the work vans was deducted from our wages.

Ridden straight at pedestrians.

He’s taken rule one and pissed all over it.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 12:31 pm
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I still find it ironic that people who DRIVE to SWINLEY have the audacity to define e-bikes or these E-motor bikes as cheating …

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I live 28-30 miles from it, that's a heck of a day out of I cycle there


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 1:36 pm
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to be fair ive just seen the price on these and i can understand why they are popular giving its cheaper than most ebikes!

Presumably because buying an e-bike is a status symbol … so e-bike owners are unhappy when a cheaper better product is available?

Eh?

Or maybe bikes that you are unable to ride anywhere legally in the UK are cheaper 'cos there's less of a market for them.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 2:07 pm
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I live 28-30 miles from it, that’s a heck of a day out of I cycle there

About the same as here to Peaslake but I often cycle to make a day of it. Before lockdown I used to cycle to Swinley about 70% of the time.

People are welcome to get there or anywhere else any way they like but if you drive or get the train you can't then really accuse others of cheating can you?


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 3:09 pm
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Christ almighty it’s not difficult they are motorcycles, they are not ebikes. Sauron sell them as motorcycles. Just as I can’t use my car, van or motorcycles on swinley trails, on pavements or through pedestrian areas they can’t be used either and thats got f all to do with “cheating”

You can ride them wherever you like if you don't get caught... really who gives a f=== if its legal or not??? It's legal to picnic on the corner of Red 25... you can set out a blanket and get the kids lying on the landing...
Just because it's legal doesn't make it any less stupid.

The government has made it abundantly clear the law only extends as far as being held to account.

WTF are you dribbling on about?

I'm just asking why you want to enforce this specific law but not others.
Why aren't you out campaigning for stiffer sentences for kids riding on the pavement for example?
(and I'm guessing because you think that law is stupid or something along those lines)

In the same way it's illegal in the UK to have a blind spot camera, they have to be wired so they only come on when you select reverse. I think that is stupid as I'd rather not kill someone who chooses to sit inside by blind spot. 90% of the time this is roady's (probably because of where I drive to/from)... however as another STWer said a few weeks ago they like me would rather break the law than legally kill someone.

UK Laws are merely acts that are passed by a minimal number of MP's bothering to turn up the vast majority of whom haven't even bothered to read the act they vote on.. that then pass through the Lords and finally get Assent, mostly passed by people who vote as they are told, or trade votes or just don't bother to vote.

Back the the tougher sentencing for kids riding on the pavement... this was easily passed in the commons... about 10?? MP's bothered to turn up that day... and it was the Lords stopped it and giving the right for a PSCO to fine a kid on the spot for riding on the pavement.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 3:49 pm
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Jamesoz

He’s taken rule one and pissed all over it.

That's a much better reason IMHO...


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 3:51 pm
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really who gives a f=== if its legal or not???

I suspect that family they buzzed on the cattle grid did.
I think the guys at the mtb trails they were ripping apart do.
I suspect police as he wheelies wrong way down a one way onto the pavement do.
I think most folk with half a sense of justice and Rule No.1 object.

By your approach, I could come steal your bike an be wished well for getting away with it....?


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 5:45 pm
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Did you get overtaken by an ebike today? Bless. Anyway the twunt in the video on his electric motorbike, yes MOTORBIKE, has now sold it and will be ripping round swinley on a levo instead.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 5:56 pm
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I’m just asking why you want to enforce this specific law but not others.

Because riding motorcycles where they are not allowed to be, where the environment has not been designed for the use of motorcycles and where there are vulnerable people about who may not expect somebody on a silent high speed motorbike to be, i.e cyclists, walkers, kids etc, creates a real risk of harm to those people. Furthermore those riding the motorcycles are unlikely to have a valid licence to ride the bike which implies a possible lack of training and knowledge of risks and are also unlikely to be legally insured so any victims of their stupidity may be substantially out of pocket as well. It’s really not that difficult a concept and has nothing to do with your garbled ranting about kids riding bikes on pavements and the uk legislative process.

Land rovers also come with 360 degree cameras so I suspect your mistaken about that slightly bizarre aspect of your post as well.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 6:05 pm
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I’m just asking why you want to enforce this specific law but not others.

Oh right you are dribbling on with a classic "yeah but". I hadn't mentioned blind spot camras or pavement cycling because it's a thread about electric motorbikes. Simple really if you stopped to think.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 6:58 pm
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I suspect that family they buzzed on the cattle grid did.
I think the guys at the mtb trails they were ripping apart do.
I suspect police as he wheelies wrong way down a one way onto the pavement do.
I think most folk with half a sense of justice and Rule No.1 object.

How does any of that change if its legal or not ? Any and all of those can be done (and are) on a normal bike (not even ebike). Rule #1 applies to everyone not just those with these electric motorbikes.

Did you get overtaken by an ebike today? Bless. Anyway the twunt in the video on his electric motorbike, yes MOTORBIKE, has now sold it and will be ripping round swinley on a levo instead.

Exactly the point (the last bit) ... what difference does it make if there is a dick on a electric motorbike or an ebike or a "normal bike" ..

On your first point, I'm a bit tired of being rammed by ebikes ridden by twunts for not moving out of the way fast enough on designated push-ups where they shouldn't be cycling but it's not illegal.

Because riding motorcycles where they are not allowed to be, where the environment has not been designed for the use of motorcycles and where there are vulnerable people about who may not expect somebody on a silent high speed motorbike to be, i.e cyclists, walkers, kids etc, creates a real risk of harm to those people. Furthermore those riding the motorcycles are unlikely to have a valid licence to ride the bike which implies a possible lack of training and knowledge of risks and are also unlikely to be legally insured so any victims of their stupidity may be substantially out of pocket as well. It’s really not that difficult a concept and has nothing to do with your garbled ranting about kids riding bikes on pavements and the uk legislative process.

Which part of that doesn't apply to non motorbike/ebike users?

Land rovers also come with 360 degree cameras so I suspect your mistaken about that slightly bizarre aspect of your post as well.

INCONTROL TOUCH PRO: PARKING AID SYSTEM
Your Range Rover Sport incorporates a parking aid system that operates in conjunction with the vehicle’s cameras, and gives a 360 degree, detailed view of the vehicle’s surrounding area and any obstacles in the vehicle’s pathway, when parking. Warnings are sent to the driver in the form of images on the touch screen and audio alerts.

You mean this "parking aid system".
Perhaps read it carefully... the driver is only allowed to see the rear view camera when reversing...

so I suspect your mistaken about that slightly bizarre aspect of your post as well.

It's not my fault its bizarre ... on some day in Parliament a bunch of dishonest MP's who could actually be arsed to turn up that day or turned up because they were bribed to voted through a bill.

It is legal to fit television equipment in a motor vehicle. However, if the screen of the television can be seen by the driver then it is only lawful to display information about the state of the vehicle, or about the location of the vehicle and the road which it is on.

Hence you can have a display, map etc. but NOT a rear view camera unless reverse is selected or the driver cannot see the screen (which makes it pointless).
Again, don't blame me ... the MP's that voted for this probably had not even read the act..I'm not an MP so hardly my fault if its a shit law and that MP's barely bother to turn up for work, let alone read what they vote for.

Try finding a rear view camera that works all the time or ask to get one professionally fitted.
If your car/van has a factory reversing camera look in the settings where you can switch it to be on full time (doesn't exist because its illegal) ...

It’s really not that difficult a concept and has nothing to do with your garbled ranting about kids riding bikes on pavements and the uk legislative process.

Had it not been for the Lords PSCO's would be out there right now giving on the spot fines to kids riding bikes on pavements... why don't you see if YOUR MP voted, if not ask them why ... if they did ask them why they voted the way the did.

You are ascribing logic to what is legal and illegal. Our current government have made it clear they don't care about what is legal or illegal ONLY accountability.

If the law doesn't apply to the government then why should anyone else care ???


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 7:41 pm
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Err, OK.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 7:54 pm
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Err, OK.

Let's just humour him, he might blow a gasket otherwise.

Please tell us some more about rear view cameras??


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 7:59 pm
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Massively long posts - check
Spurious, off topic arguments - check
Random, selective quoting - check
Misdirected anger - check
Random bold text - check

It's a full house!
Happy Stevextc thread derailment day everyone!


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 8:07 pm
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Let’s just humour him, he might blow a gasket otherwise.

Please tell us some more about rear view cameras??

like I say, try and buy one or get one fitted.
Show me a link where I can legally buy a rear view camera in the UK... or explain why you can't turn the one in a UK legal car/van on when reverse isn't selected without illegal hacks.

why else would the landrover have 360 degree cameras that can only be used for park assist ?

However its not like its the only example ..Do you have pedal reflectors? Why is it illegal to have them on the shoes not the pedals?

The point is why would anyone follow the law because its the law when the government have made it clear they have no respect for the law or wish to follow it.

The only thing that matters is being caught or accountable.

As I mentioned what exactly is the difference between the electric motorbikes and a normal bike or e-bike.

I suspect that family they buzzed on the cattle grid did.
I think the guys at the mtb trails they were ripping apart do.
I suspect police as he wheelies wrong way down a one way onto the pavement do.

Which one of those can't be done on a normal bike?

Furthermore those riding the motorcycles are unlikely to have a valid licence to ride the bike which implies a possible lack of training and knowledge of risks and are also unlikely to be legally insured so any victims of their stupidity may be substantially out of pocket as well.

How many of the other riders at Swinley have a valid license to ride, training and knowledge from that or insurance?
He's not on a road he's on private land (Crown Estates) so not a police matter with regards to riding it (being a dick is another matter but as I said, what's the difference between a normal bike ??)

So far as I can see him riding a Sauron thingy is no different to me riding off piste at Swinley ... or any of the "illegal on the roads balance things" they rent out... (whatever they are called)

Personally I'd prefer him not to be there at all as he's a dick but I can't complain about the legality or not as I've been known to sneak in a cheeky off piste. (As have most of us) .. so its' bloody hypocritical to say he can't because its illegal (when its really down to Crown Estate) if you ever sneaked in a bit of cheeky off piste.

Same thing about cheating ... unless you cycle there then you're also "cheating"... I use uplifts all the time so how can I moan at someone "cheating".


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 8:28 pm
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Can someone please come up with a working killfile?


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 8:31 pm
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Can you not get away with the dual rear view cameras that are fitted to most motohomes.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 8:32 pm
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Show me a link where I can legally buy a rear view camera in the UK…

Why would I want to?

The only thing that matters is being caught or accountable.

Do you see this as a universal truth or do you have a list of things that are only bad if you are caught?


 
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Massively long posts – check
Spurious, off topic arguments – check
Random, selective quoting – check

It’s a full house!
Happy Stevextc thread derailment day everyone!

So the purpose of the post is what ? Ah, I see we can break the law because we ride bikes but he can't because he rides something else?

I'm simply trying to balance this out... all I see are "reasons" he shouldn't that we should feel free to ignore... I personally don't have insurance or special training so how is that relevant?
I like most regulars (if they are honest) sneak in off piste... again what's the difference?

Misdirected anger – check

Where's misdirected anger ? I'm just saying there are a bunch of hypocrites on this thread.
People who will happily break the law when convenient to them (like riding home with no pedal reflectors) or riding baby maker which is NOT sanctioned ... or previously camel

Just because this bloke (who is a dick) chooses a different machine it seems a whole load of reasons he shouldn't be allowed but we should.


 
Posted : 10/04/2021 8:38 pm
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He’s not on a road he’s on private land (Crown Estates) so not a police matter with regards to riding it (being a dick is another matter but as I said, what’s the difference between a normal bike ??)

Sorry Steve, have you watched the videos? He's going full throttle through the pedestrianised high street in Camberley and on the road, and on byways, and on bridleways, and across parks.


 
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I’m just saying there are a bunch of hypocrites on this thread.

Maybe your ire is misdirected ... Hypocrisy doesn't **** up the trails, for one thing.


 
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Why would I want to?

Obviously you wouldn't as you can't .. but best not to try (or pretend you didn't google and couldn't find it was legal eh)

Do you see this as a universal truth or do you have a list of things that are only bad if you are caught?

I didn't make any statement about good or bad... simply what matters.
The democratically elected government of England has made it clear that laws are only applicable in so far as they are accountable and legality has nothing to do with if they do something or not.


 
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Sorry Steve, have you watched the videos? He’s going full throttle through the pedestrianised high street in Camberley and on the road, and on byways, and on bridleways, and across parks.

I saw part of it weeks ago... total knob-end. I'm just saying his choice of machine is irrelevant to him being a dick... apparently he's sold it and got a Levo... do you really think he'll behave any differently?


 
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