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Bottle cages!
I use the same cage on all my bikes, the Bontrager carbon SL has been faultless. However I needed another cage on the hurry up. So whilst placing an order I bought a Tacx jobbie thinking a Taxc would be okay.

First outing the bottle fell out on the road, and looked like it would fall out on any mildly bumpy road. I put up with it.
Next time I tried bottles in it and used the one that fitted the best. During the ride it was pointed out that my bottle wasn't in properly, all day it kept trying to come out.
Turns out that there is no side support. In fact you can tilt a bottle in the cage and almost pull it out from the bottom.

Anyway, it's not the cost or hassle, but when someone designs these things do they ever actually try them out and then think whoa this is rubbish?


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 7:12 am
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Panaracer Rampage SC:
Highly recommended by all...

Punctures at the mere mention of a bramble. Also lasted about 100 miles.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 8:01 am
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This is going to sound really anally retentive but... it also depends on which bottles you use as they can vary in size slightly. I've used tacx tao cages for years now in spite of them being a bit loose with normal bottles, but they're rock solid with the camelback bottles I prefer, also seem to be virtually indestructable too.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 9:09 am
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I use Tao cages with Spesh bottles, never lost one in my life!


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 9:11 am
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Tao cages are great as you can manipulate the shape in order to get a good grip on most bottles.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 9:52 am
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Panaracer Rampage SC

I loved mine, plenty grippy at the front and with a decent amount of feel.

The Rampage I had on the back tore on loose flint though, unbeknownst to me I'd managed to cut through the ply in two places. Whilst inflating the tyre a 3" square piece detached, taking the inner tube with it and the resulting explosive spray of Fenwicks sealant ensured that our porchway was duly redecorated.

Mrs PJM was a tad unhappy.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 10:51 am
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This is the offending article.
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Should have bought the cheaper Tao.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 6:14 pm
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Hope QR seatclamp (won't tighten then snaps)

Hope skewers (comes undone)

Hope Vision lights (not sure what the latest reason for mine failing again is)


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 6:27 pm
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Haven't got the lights but my Hope clamps and skewers have all been fine.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 6:34 pm
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Iv'e got Hope lights & seatclamp & had skewers. No problems at all with any.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 7:14 pm
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Blah blah etc

Hope Vision lights (not sure what the latest reason for mine failing again is)

Not being Toutified?


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 7:23 pm
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Hydrapak quantum clip. Utterly useless.


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 8:51 pm
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Marins


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 8:55 pm
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Those DH shorts with MASSIVE bits of plastic.

One Industries especially.

Why.........?


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 9:12 pm
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What no Crank Brothers?


 
Posted : 05/06/2014 9:53 pm
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What no Crank Brothers?

Yeah but everyone know CB kit is awful...


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 8:27 am
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[img] [/img]Scott waterproof spds shoe things. "heater" is the model.

Scott Heater shoes. Absolutely rotten. I got drawn in as they were going cheap, but definitely a case of "buy cheap buy twice".

The issue, as far as I can tell, is that the outer isn't at all breathable or drained. Water gets stuck between the goretex liner and the outer making them very hard to dry. This also creates a festering layer of water and mud so they smelled like a 2 week old road killed badger after a few rides.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:01 am
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tom - OT but get something like this:
http://www.tiso.com/shop/sidas/drywarmer/?gclid=CjgKEAjwzcWcBRCat43fy9e5i3ASJADXOBwuu4yyUiQdbv2Wxh9vipWsFF_uD0vVcfUoNBTo5tHe6_D_BwE

Wet winter shoes (and festering smells) are a thing of the past.

As you were, carry on!


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:05 am
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tom - OT but get something like this:

http://www.tiso.com/shop/sidas/drywarmer/?gclid=CjgKEAjwzcWcBRCat43fy9e5i3ASJADXOBwuu4yyUiQdbv2Wxh9vipWsFF_uD0vVcfUoNBTo5tHe6_D_BwE

Wet winter shoes (and festering smells) are a thing of the past.

As you were, carry on!

Cheers for that, although I have a proper wall mounted hot air shoe drier. It can dry a normal pair of walking boots in a couple of hours. With the Scotts, the water was trapped between the layers of the shoe. So they would feel dry insider and out, but after a few hours would feel wet again as the trapped water would permeate out. I've never had this problem with any other set of shoes or boots. They're absolute baws.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:11 am
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Ah. That reminds me. I've had my drywarmers running in my winter shoes for about 4 months now, should probably switch those off


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:14 am
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Hope QR's are the best! I've had a couple and they are the best I've ever used.

Latex tubes - after 20 years of wondering if they are worth it I got some for my road bike. Felt no different to normal tubes but deflated themselves overnight, so they can't even do the one job they are supposed to. Cack.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:19 am
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nemesis, I didn't know that product existed and have needed it in my life for the last few years. Just purchased, a thanking you.


 
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I know - I was given a set as a present for skiing and realised how useful they'd be for mtbing (and road riding..)


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:32 am
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Camelbak antidote bladders. Two for two have leaked at the hose qr and Google suggests I'm not alone. They've not improved over a few years yet they still seem to keep selling the bloody things.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:47 am
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Sealskinz waterproof socks or gloves.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:55 am
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I love my Sealskinz socks, wouldn't be without them. Now Gore's waterproof socks, those are proper shit. They might be good at the waterproof part but they're no good at being socks.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:58 am
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Hope QR's are the best! I've had a couple and they are the best I've ever used.

Shimano QRs are the best.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 9:59 am
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Shimano XT QR +1

They just work, especially on my Swift with rigid forks.
All to do with internal cam.

Hope ones would undo on their own on rough stuff. Fail.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:05 am
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Shimano QRs are the best.

+1.

Hope's are pretty but fundamentally shite and always will be until they start using an internal cam...


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:06 am
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Marins

Some of the newer ones are a bit pants, but my 2009 bike is great. Nothing has fallen off, worn out or flexed. If I'm being really fussy I'd say that the top tube is a teeny bit short and that the paint is too thin but that's about it.

Oh and Shimano QRs absolutely rule.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:08 am
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Gloves with seams in the tips of fingers.

For bottle cages, the cheap ali ones are best, just bend to fit as tight as you like.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:09 am
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Any sort of winter glove with a lining that turns inside out! We should take them all, make a bonfire out of them and throw the designers on top.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:11 am
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Amen, Northwind. Once spent 15 minutes cursing my Endura winter gloves in the middle of a ride having taken one off and then not being able to get it back on and trying to get the lining back in with freezing hands was a nightmare.

Please to say that my latest Endura gloves don't have this issue.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:18 am
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Sealskinz waterproof socks or gloves.

+1,utter 5hite !


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:18 am
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Any sort of winter glove with a lining that turns inside out! We should take them all, make a bonfire out of them and throw the designers on top.

In theory they're supposed to enable you to dry gloves faster. It sort of works but putting them back the right way around makes me want to hurt people.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:20 am
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Any sort of winter glove with a lining that turns inside out! We should take them all, make a bonfire out of them and throw the designers on top.

This. x1000


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:20 am
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Not bike kit, but related: the valve that connects the tube to the bladder on the Salomon backpack I use for running. Absolute nightmare to use, it's far too stiff.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:20 am
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Interesting that there are 3 products listed that I've used long term and had no issues with whatsoever.
Panaracer Rampage SC - check. ok they slip a bit when its gets mucky
Hope QRs - check. never had mine slip or undo.
Sealskinz Soaks - check. keep my feet dry and warm

Conti Vertical tyres, more like horizontal if you ask me.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:25 am
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Tacx chain tool, bought in an emergency. There is not enough of the tool to hold and get the leverage required for it to work correctly.

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Posted : 06/06/2014 10:27 am
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Tacx chain tool, bought in an emergency. There is not enough of the tool to hold and get the leverage required for it to work correctly.

Yes absolute pish! It's great so long as you have two big adjustable spanners in your back pack. Amazed that they still make that, given that other compact tools like the park one and the topeak one work really well.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:37 am
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Any chain tool where the vice body is cast, or worse, sintered. In fact, make that any tool made those ways. Topeak: you're the worst offender here.

The bleed nipple and seals on crankbros 50/50s, designed to work against each other. Usually the nipple wins and destroys the seal.

Any bit of RaceFace kit that contains a bearing.

edit: damn almost forgot - Ardents.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:40 am
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Interesting that there are 3 products listed that I've used long term and had no issues with whatsoever.
Panaracer Rampage SC - check. ok they slip a bit when its gets mucky
Hope QRs - check. never had mine slip or undo.
Sealskinz Soaks - check. keep my feet dry and warm

Conti Vertical tyres, more like horizontal if you ask me.

You'll never guess what tyre I fitted when the RSC's wore out...!

I did like the way the Panaracers rode, but they just got too many punctures. Seriously, 3-5 a day in Cornwall. Frustrating.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:41 am
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If you like Rampages, why not just get Nevegals- the tyre Panaracer copied badly to make the Rampage?


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:46 am
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OK - I'll look into it, Ta.

On a side note - try walking into a Panasonic shop and asking them to order you some bike tyres, always causes an amusing outcome.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 10:57 am
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I broke a bottle cage on my road bike last year and popped into a shop mid-ride to get another one- a Blackburn one I think it was, all light and skinny.
It just wobbled to the point where I was basically waiting for it to break. Didn't seem to be up to the job of holding a full bottle at all- it really surprised me that such a thing would exist and have made it onto the shelves, especially from a big-name brand. Came straight off when I got home.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 11:22 am
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