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It sounds like they've now become an event where hundreds of lycra clad nobheads meet up to ride round the countryside dropping litter everywhere.
And then there's the varying standards of riding on display.....
Yes we should. Nothing but a nuisance which holds up legitimate road users everywhere.
Don't poke them all with that shitty stick.#davidthejudgetaylforth.
Yes ! No !
Down with this sort of thing.
Thankfully car drivers never litter, movers never leave rubbish on the trail and people walking always take their trash with them. Oh wait.
I'm not in favour of banning anything, but if I was, organising races on public roads would be on the list.
So, no.
Above all we must use our collective power to ban mass participation events wisely.
With great power comes great responsibility.
troll too far.
Not in my back yard!
Don't ban the events but do ban anyone from entering them if they refer to it as 'a race'. Double ban if this 'race' term is used in the context of "can you fix my bike by tomorrow, I have a race to do".
I bet they don't even pay road tax
No, not a troll post. I personally don't care for them; prefer cycling on my own for free.
Don't ban the events but do ban anyone from entering them if they refer to it as 'a race'.
Probably that. Get rid of the timing, then it'd be much more laid back and people might stop to put their rubbish in bins.
Agree with the timing thing. It's idiotic.
Maybe set a minimum time limit with checks along the way. Anyone who is going to quickly has to stop and wait for a time gate to open.
If people enjoy them, then let them happen.
You should be banned from [i]competing[/i] in them for a year if you get seen littering, tho.
It's fair to say that on the Local Access Forum there has been some 'in depth' discussion of sportive so for some time, including some fairly extensive feedback from councillors, parish councils, etc.
The level of vitriol, angst and anger that 'sportives' cause amongst certain sectors of the community is absolutely remarkable, however when you actually question what that are talking about, it rapidly becomes clear that they are very rarely talking about actual sportive events, and the vast majority of the time they are referring to club runs, they just don't know the difference.
I think it's a valid concern however that many are run, or at least seen by some of the participants as, quasi-races (which would need authorisation by the police) and that they live in a legislative lacuna whereby events are almost entirely unregulated.
Riding one on Sunday.
I shall fuel on a large bag of jelly babies though not gels - unless my legs really give up in which case I might have a sly one.
and the vast majority of the time they are referring to club runs, they just don't know the difference
So what is the difference? (Larger numbers, poorer riding standards, more littering, less invasion of local facilities?) And from a "locals" point of view, how would the experience differ?
mrblobby - Member
Maybe set a minimum time limit with checks along the way. Anyone who is going to quickly has to stop and wait for a time gate to open.
🙂 I like it. You'd still inevitably get a braying mob at the gates; pushing their way to the front to get through first though.....
davidtaylforth - MemberI personally don't care for them; prefer cycling on my own for free
Everyone on STW rides on their own you know....... other than when they're riding with people...... which is all the time.
Can we just re-name them mini-audaxs to keep everyone happy?
How's about banning mountain biking cos some people who do it ride on foot paths
Are they leaving their bikes behind for others to clean up?
but if I was, organising races on public roads would be on the list
Olympic road race? Tour de France? Tour of Britain? Is this a blanket ban?
only if we can ban cyclocross too
Yes. especially them utter b@llends who think racing up & down the a3 is a good idea. Is that a sportive? I dont know, but I want it banned.
but we're all ok with gravel racing, yeah?
Just ride Audax ,time limits, smaller entry fees and much smaller fields .Most sportives have far to many entrants
I think the thread is 50/50 split between those who know the OP is mildly trolling, and people taking this shit seriously.
So what is the difference?
I think that the key difference is that with a sportive its 'been and gone' in a morning like a plague of locusts that descend and then move on (even with the most concentrated spots it's a fairly limited number of times a year) whereby with club runs there are areas where its pretty relentless pressure all day sat & sun & summer weekday evenings.
No, not a troll post. I personally don't care for them; prefer cycling on my own for free.
Good for you champ
bongohoohaa - MemberI think the thread s 50/50 split between those who know the OP is mildly trolling, and people taking this shit seriously.
Sportives are serious races though
Sportives are serious races though
True dat, if you [s]win one[/s] finish in the first 100 [edit, see below] then it gives you bragging rights at the tri-club for at least the next month.
Just ban Rapha surely? Best ban the Kask team sky painted helmets too, just to be on the safe side.
Normality would be resumed 😆
ninfan - MemberSportives are serious races though
True dat, if you win one ...
How do you win? Is it like the diving/gymnastics when you get points for various attibutes of your ride: obnoxious behaviour, loudmouth boasting, innapropriately expensive gadgets and flair of your gel wrapper throw?
Tardy Half Divot
Oh dear, I was just about to enter a sportive , run in aid of the community shop in a mate's village. Obviously I won't now.
We're organising one mid September. £15 entry limited numbers, organised feed stops, and a pint and cottage pie at the end.
We'll raise some money for the charity and folk will have fun. No timing and warnings about traffic and littering emphasised at start.
YES. Ban them all...
Buuuuuut. Still do them.
The ensuing police chase will motivate riders for faster times.
I'd just ban the people wearing military watches if they still have no ninja skillz whatsoever,they are making undercover sas killers look silly,ban them.
there are areas where its pretty relentless pressure
How dare people travel on their bikes and enjoy the countryside. How dare they.
Maybe set a minimum time limit with checks along the way. Anyone who is going to quickly has to stop and wait for a time gate to open.
That would be an audax!!
I dropped a bar wrapper on purpose during the last sportive I did. I stopped and picked it up, I was using it as a good excuse to drop off the back of a group who were going far too fast for me without losing face AND give myself good karma points for picking up litter!
Actually havent done many Sportives but have always been surprised by the lack of litter considering how many people are riding and the ease with which you can miss a pocket.
How do you win? Is it like the diving/gymnastics when you get points for various attibutes of your ride: obnoxious behaviour, loudmouth boasting, innapropriately expensive gadgets and flair of your gel wrapper throw?
Fair point, edited accordingly. Don't forget bonus points for parking your car in a location that blocks in other competitors and stylistic marks for grabbing armfuls of food at the first feeding point so as to not leave enough for others.
That would be an audax!!
🙂
onehundredthidiot - Member
We're organising one mid September. £15 entry limited numbers, organised feed stops, and a pint and cottage pie at the end.
We'll raise some money for the charity and folk will have fun. No timing and warnings about traffic and littering emphasised at start.
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That sounds like an audax to me. Great. All for it.
Some smaller 'sportive' style events are probably great. It's the mass participation fun ride as a 'race' ones that hit the idiot button. IMHO.. 🙂
Olympic road race? Tour de France? Tour of Britain? Is this a blanket ban?
I thought they closed the roads for them?
Anyway, no. I'd come up with a list of 10 things and ban them*. Everything else, not banned.
*One of them might have to be racing on open roads. Even doG couldn't think of 10 things to ban without coming up with nonsense about ox bothering.