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Yes you can kill with a car, but you can also kill with a loaf of bread.
How many people are killed every year by a loaf of bread? Come to that, how many people are killed every year by a gun or a hand grenade?
cynic-al - Member
Wow Bomberman and LHS are even bigger trolls/car-lovers/cyclist-haterz/idiots than I imagined.
*adds to list*
Why cynic-al? Just because we aren't jumping on the "look what a dickhead the range rover driver is" bandwagon?
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and mine is that this whole thing has been blown out of proportion and both the driver and the cyclist overreacted. They are both dickheads, but based on the Hakka performance I would say that the driver is the bigger dickhead out of the two.
Now if you've a problem with me expressing my opinion on this forum then you better take it up with the mods hadn't you?
Well that had gotten all interesting since I last read it!
How long before we are wearing headcams when posting on here so we can post all the clips of the abuse we receive.....?
based on the Hakka performance I would say that the driver is the bigger dickhead out of the two.
Just that, and not because he actually endangered the cyclist and then threatened him with more harm. Neither of which things the cyclist did to the driver?
Unlike some on here, I don't believe you at least are trolling - you're just failing to comprehend the asymmetry.
I don't have a problem with you expressing your opinion Bomberman, in fact it's helpful, so I know to ignore you in future.
The problem is the irrelevant shite you also spout to try and back it up. Well, also the fact it's a pile of crap (your opinion that is).
This makes you as bad as Daily Mail anti-bike commenters.
Cynic-al and aracer are wearing them right now. They have six pointing in all different directions at the different computer screens.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and mine is that this whole thing has been blown out of proportion and both the driver and the cyclist overreacted.
You are free to have a view at odds with the evidence and the decision issued by the courts
We are free to express our dismay at your view and the way you use random and unrelated facts [ some cyclists jump red lights and we are not all angels] as justification for your view.
We are all free to call each other trolls but I dont see how you can express your views as forthrightly as you do [ or LHS] and not expect that people will be as forthright back to you [ the same applies to me to be clear].
EDIT: i wrote that before reading the camera rant FFS aracer was actually polite to you and about your opinion
If you are not actually trying to just piss people off and be as abrasive as possible whilst still within the STW rules then I dont want to witness what happens when you set out to just abuse posters #pigeonchess with insults
How many people are killed every year by a loaf of bread?
Don't know the exact worldwide figures, but i've killed 17 so far (and the year is only half way done) with a loaf. If i extrapolate the data then it just over 400 billion.
Come to that, how many people are killed every year by a gun or a hand grenade?
Just the three i think.
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You're just here for the arguments, right?
I said back there <--- you should walk away JY 🙂
Aracer, junkyard and cynic-al, you've all been on here a long time haven't you?
I did for a bit whilst I was the object of the abuse and trolling insults....like a moth to the flame or a fly to shit more like
Ok this time i am really leaving as it is just silly now and not really a debate or a discussion
STW is great, grown men and women arguing the toss about what happened.
The guy in the car has issues, drove too close to a bike, cyclist shouted, driver lost his rag (possibly had an underlying problem that we are not aware of), cyclist shouts back, bit of funny dancing, drives off, all this due to shit cycling infrastructure and idiot driver.
Driver is a tosser, cyclist could have spoken better back (but was quite shook up). The end.
Why the f@@k are you guys arguing? Put down the computer, speak to an actual person using actual speech.
Threads like tis are great for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork mind.
Go out and get some fresh air. Love thy neighbour etc etc etc
Cynic-al and aracer are wearing them right now. They have six pointing in all different directions at the different computer screens.
Wow, and with that response to my polite post (I was going to post more trying to explain to you why you're getting the angry responses) you've completely changed my opinion. I now tend to agree with al.
bomberman - MemberAracer, junkyard and cynic-al, you've all been on here a long time haven't you?
You've been here 6.5 years, so?
You're just here for the arguments, right?
Some of the time, but not in this case. The point is that vehicles do kill a lot more people than any of the other things you mentioned, and it only takes a little twitch of the wheel to use one as a weapon. In fact I'd go so far as to suggest that it's likely that if all the evidence was available, more people are guilty of murder within the definition of the law (which is if somebody dies as a result of a deliberate act of aggression towards them) using a car than with any other weapon.
You've been here 6.5 years, so?
Interestingly, longer than me and you according to that.
post hack tardiness, guilty as charged m'lud, sneaked in before you tho 😉Interestingly, longer than me and you according to that.
>400 posts and 13 pages!!! it's like TJ never left 😀
Of course I wasn't implying anything by that, merely making an observation. No need to go on the defensive. I mean it's not like anyone is implying anything about the fact you're always on here.
This thread is still open then?
"look what a dickhead the range rover driver is"
It is a Land Rover Discovery. Get it right! Lord Clarkson will have you struck off!
iolo - MemberSTW is great, grown men and women arguing the toss about what happened.
The guy in the car has issues, drove too close to a bike, cyclist shouted, driver lost his rag (possibly had an underlying problem that we are not aware of), cyclist shouts back, bit of funny dancing, drives off, all this due to shit cycling infrastructure and idiot driver.
Driver is a tosser, cyclist could have spoken better back (but was quite shook up). The end.
Why the f@@k are you guys arguing? Put down the computer, speak to an actual person using actual speech.
Threads like tis are great for bringing the [b]idiots[/b] out of the woodwork mind.
Go out and get some fresh air. Love thy neighbour etc etc etc
This!
[url= http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/cyclist-fined-after-being-clocked-riding-41mph-in-richmond-park-161628 ]No respect for the law[/url]
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This thread:
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/for-you-ze-drivink-lesson-is-over?replies=11 ]Linky[/url]
Illustrates the imbalance perfectly.
One wrong move from a car and a cyclist is pizza. That's why most cyclists react like the one in the video. He just saw the hem of the cloak of the Grim Reaper as the wing mirror hit him. The link above illustrates how cyclists feel when sharing the roads with massive metal meat-grinders.
Someone crashing into a tank illustrates the point of a guy in a 4x4 driving a bit close to a somewhat highly strung and sweary cyclist, then winning the 'who can be the biggest bellend' contest???
It is simple bullying. Drivers do it because the consequences for them and/or their precious cars is usually zero. You don't see them trying to bully a horse do you? They don't get so close to half a tonne of unpredictable horse meat do they? Too much risk.
It's just another way of being antisocial. ****ers.
I [i]think[/i] he was illustrating that car v cyclist is similar to car v tank, one of them will come of a lot worse than the other in an incident. (car totalled, tank left with nary a scratch)Someone crashing into a tank illustrates the point of a guy in a 4x4...
Nice attempt to belittle the victim too.
Why the f@@k are you guys arguing?
Good question. Even I haven't got involved, that should tell you something.
philfive - Memberjust seen this video and i know the 4x4 driver was a prick but did the cyclist really spit at him?
Posted 17 hours ago # Report-Post
LHS - Member
Well i will be carrying on going to Brew in Putney most weekends as there food and coffee is fricking awesome. Don't care if the owner is a dick, i am sure their are owners of many restaurants who are dicks, shouldn't really impact your decision making.
Posted 8 hours ago # Report-Post
The thread was quite well behaved until this point. When LHS steamed in to defend the 4x4 driver. Then bomberman accused the cyclist of bringing misfortune on himself.
Several people leapt in to refute their assertions. Then it got ugly.
Them's the facts guv.
Anyway, what's happened to the 4x4 driver? any more winkie pics or revelations of a Yew tree nature?
Twitter rumours have him as a homophobe as well now. Also, this rage explosion has happened previously. All allegedly of course!
molgrips - MemberEven I haven't got involved, that should tell you something.
But it's about overtaking. I'd have thought you'd be on it like a tramp on chips?
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He's just waiting his turn. (-:
Shall I close this thread now, or are you all going to be nice to each other for a bit?
I think that the humane thing would be to kill it off...
Skillz cougar
they already have, it was deleted.
His ringpiece is very shiny isn't it.
That should get it closed !!
It looks like a penis, only smaller.
He should be more proud of his weightloss. Priapic even.
they already have, it was deleted.
Several times now.
Seriously guys, if you want to look at willies, there's a big old Internet out there full of them. STW isn't the place for "last chicken in Sainsbury's" photos.
Oh dear. Made the mistake of showing it to my non cycling wife and her response was that the cyclist started it and the 4x4 was no closer than the yellow car. Needless to say the atmosphere in the kitchen is now somewhat tense.
Oh dear. Made the mistake of showing it to my non cycling wife and her response was that the cyclist started it and the 4x4 was no closer than the yellow car.
I agree with her
But it's about overtaking. I'd have thought you'd be on it like a tramp on chips?
Good work.
Straw man DUDE
I agree with her
He starts off as wide fails to actually gets past then just turns/drifts into the cyclist becoming much closer than the yellow car ever was and the yellow car actually got past.
The fact we need to debate this on a cycling forum with cyclists shows just how ****ed we are on the road.
Apparently the cyclists need to get off and push until they get to the park and then they can play round the park as long as they avoid the dog walkers.
[quote=simondbarnes ]I agree with her
trolling, or just needing to watch again? As JY says the issue was the pulling in before completing the pass (which was when the cyclist shouted out his torrent of abuse "oh come on")
He was trolling you....and won.
He did not say what part of what she said he agreed with.
It will be that the yellow car passed equally close.
This is what he agrees with 'her' about.
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