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Cheers everyone, great info in here. Martin I have a mate who works at the Devonshire Arms who can get me a very nice discount - otherwise it would be well out of my price range. 😉
grum, I think that fig of 8 will be a great route.
I walk up there to climb and I can see how it would be an excellent descent, but not sure it would be worth the push/carry across the stream and up past the bogs next to Hellifield Crag.
I think you can do a traverse to cross Helli crag higher up the couloir, but yes there is some pushing involved, I've generally got lost, but I'm assured the right lines are worth the effort.. 😉
There's a good path/track along the top of the crag which turns off just at the gate at the top of the climb from Rylstone (includes an interesting little drop off, if I remember rightly.) The 'climbers' path is a tad narrow with a couple of stiles.
Very busy with walkers though, so I certainly wouldn't bother at a weekend.
Me and a couple of mates will be leading the retrobike crew round this route later in the year. Anyone that's interested can get dates from the Yorkshire section on the site. You don't even have to have an old bike 😉