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Will the new O-O guy be making a Summer 456 out of anything other than scaffold pole?
might have to have a spin on one this weekend if theres any knocking about Brant? Having seen Eds I'm tempted to get shot of the Blur 4X after my impending trip to Verbier and get a Ragley Ti as a replacement...
Dibbs on the 4X frame.
Will the new O-O guy be making a Summer 456 out of anything other than scaffold pole?
I've got a Ti one in my garage 😉
Washing my Spesh Pitch last night and noticed the piece of chainstay behind the cranks looked quite similiar to the 3 finger Ragley thingy.
Just an observation.
I might have to have a spin on one this weekend if theres any knocking about Brant?
You'll be able to have a go on my bike at the weekend. No problem.
[i]"200 steps"[/i] ???!!! 😉
So have no normal peeps taken delivery yet then?
presumambly you cant be seen riding such a beast brant?
After all the ti failiures recently I was rather hoping someone may have snuck in a batch of lightweight 853 SS's before the CEN tests caught up.
They've been in stock on CRC for a while and I thought I'd even read somewhere that they were close to selling out, dunno why no-one is owning up on here to having bought one though?
yeah - who has got a Ragley Ti ? 🙂
fwiw, the Ti456 is stunning out here in the Pyrenees.
i'd expect a slacker HA would be even betterer......... 😯
thisisnotaspoon - Will the new O-O guy be making a Summer 456 out of anything other than scaffold pole?
yes, well more like sort of. there will be some new designs, some re-designs and I believe some losses.
if i'm correct in its understanding, the CEN does not apply to items you have in stock, so you could order a million before December and you'd still be able to sell them
Cheers Ed - I'll come and hunt you down sometime during Saturday!
DaveyBoyWonder, don't get rid of the Blur4x (mothball it). You might regret it then there is no way of buying one back again.
Anyone, still not?
seeems not so far pritcsa........
i'm now waiting for the next MBUK issue to read...
I've gone for the leap of faith approach. Picking it up tomorrow afternoon. 🙂
Remember, we need pics. The forum demands it!
TLR - i have a demo one in the shoppe if you are serious about one.
Its an 18. see www.thebikechain.co.uk for more info.
MARKD - NOT REALLY - I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH MY tI456..........but may be tempted .....lol.....
That must be the one the nipper rides in that advert
CAPITALS RULE!
be tempted.
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MARKD - NOT REALLY - I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH MY tI456..........but may be tempted .....lol.....
Haven't you said that about another frame before?
cynic-al - yes , the Hummer , but it broke as i'm way too fukkn hardcore for it, cheers 😀
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come ride with us , here in NE Scotland...........:)
[url= http://www.ragleybikes.com/2009/07/dave-h-has-got-his-what-about-you/ ]Dave has got one.[/url]
ride report after GT please, DAVE 😀
TLR - you still haven't been in touch for a test ride.... 😉
No photo's yet guys but first impressions.
For context i've been riding a scandal as a stopgap but with long forks, air pikes. Anyway, first impression is that it's pretty light, 3.66lb including a king headset, compared to the scandal at 3.62. Obviously, the scandal is not meant for long forks so was running pretty slack, but an iphone says this is a degree slacker with the seat tube being 3 degrees steeper. Bottom bracket is 10mm lower on the Ragley and reach 10mm less.
Ride impressions. Awesome. Got up and down things that i've never managed before and the 2 bikes before the Scandal were a EX8 and Commi 55. Uphill especially just brilliant, even with forks fully wound out, just sit in saddle and spin. Downhill is harder to quantify because you never know how much of the advantage is in your head but got down some steep stuff and jumped further that i managed when either full susses were new.
Early days but chuffed so far. Photo's tomorrow hopefully.
Cool glad your please so far Pritcsa 🙂 Glad we could supply it!
We'll get some pics tomorrow on the shop ride. Can't wait for the Pigs to arrive so we can get our demo stuck together
Putting SLX on a Ti frame is like buying a Monet and putting it in an IKEA frame. Spoils it for me, honestly.
I feel like calling social services.
Makes sense to me, performance benefits of xtr etc are not worth the cost IMO.
Buying a ti frame and putting xtr/thomson on it is like lacking the courage or thinking capacity to do something different...do you aspire to a BMW?
Nope; I've got one. Cheaper to run, tax and insure than the old Peugeot
Do you really think that a person willing to pay over 1K for a hardtail frame has considered the relationship between performance benefits and cost?
It's simply an opinion, not a criticism.
The social services bit was a joke.
You can't get the feel of a ti frame without a ti frame...slx gears, brakes, hubs etc all work near enough as well as xtr for me and I'd rather spend the £ on something that will make more of a difference to my life.
It's got to be about how much of a difference is there really? XTR brakes and cranks don't do it for me at all. When the time for new shifters come, they'll be XTR but mechs are too vulnerable. The difference between my XTR pedals and 520's convinced me (none that i can tell). Sean is right about the frame to a degree tho, doesn't matter how good it is it's not going to be 5 times better than the scandal as that's a great frame. Could be 5 times better than the Commi tho.
cynical-al.
well named and a very bitter man.
Some photos and second ride impressions.
[url= http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pritcsa ]Photo's[/url] feel free to link, can't get it to work. 🙄
So shop ride today in the peeing down rain and loads of mud. The good news is it seemed even better than it did yesterday. Outclimbed the full sussers on all the technical climbs, i'm not as quick or as fit as some of the others but got further up or cleaned everything. And down hill was a hoot. Was massively torn between this and a 456 but looks like it may work out after all. Very, very happy.
pritcsa's Ragley...
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Nice to see one built up at last.
looks good too. purposeful and unfussy
I soooooooooooooo would of had that climb if i haven't broken my shifter... 🙄 😆
Awesome bike though and bloody hell does it climb, even descended well in todays Mudfest!
On the XTR vs SLX thing...XTR works well but you could almost hear the money falling out of your wallet in the mud today 😥
...bloody hate gears
cant wait to get mine, blue pig or mmmbop for me though, unless i win that mbuk comp 😀
pritcsa - you'll probably need to go up to a 36t ring - I used to run 32t on my old bike, but on the Ragley was running a 36t for two weeks before I noticed it wasn't a 32t, I was riding so much faster 🙂
cynical-al.
well named and a very bitter man.
Jeez I am just giving as good as the rest 🙄