[Closed] Public apology

you're brave.

1 or 5 a breast does it matter?
if a tractor wa doing 2 mile an hour would you chill out?

And that's an apology?

Troll.

This forum is supposed to be about discussing the good stuff about bikes, tech tips, buying advice, routes etc. Please can we get back to that, or are more and more decent, down to earth riders going to leave this forum for good.

Buttons the size of dorset 😆

Nah, he was on a road bike, surely he wouldn't be on here? 😉

I passed the group of mtbers who were 1 and 2 abreast no probs, this guy was about 6 inches from the white line on a road that is about 2 cars wide and wasn't for letting anyone past... No need. I was a bit close though 😳

Yes. Please take things more seriously or good thinking people will leave.

'And that's an apology?'

Just re-read it and it wasn't really so- SORRY!

Is that better?

1 or 5 a breast does it matter?
if a tractor wa doing 2 mile an hour would you chill out?

I am chilled, I would have got past a tractor with no probs and the driver would probably not have swerved about giving me the bird nearly hitting my friend behind.

if you ca pass a tractor safely you can pass 3 riders

2 cars and 2 people , why not one car with 2 people.

Alos stranmge how 2 people nearly hit the same cyclist, should have gone to spec savers obviously.

I personally think cyclists (on the road) are getting more and more militant. I had one pull out onto a busy roundabout as I was approaching his junction i.e. I was to his right and had right of way and he just pulled out and casually cycled past my exit making me brake. he flipped me the bird and shouted expletives at me! I honked and told him to read the highway code

My car had 4 in, the following car had 2 in. I didn't nearly hit him, I was closer than I should've been maybe but he then nearly caused an accident by taking both hands off the bars to gesticulate at me.

*basks in the good vibes and positive atmosphere of the thread*

Some people will defend cyclists no matter what. Sad.

I've found the roads infested by roadies recently. But they've been polite and friendly.

Which is odd and a bit disturbing. I know I should hate them, but they seem almost human.

why are you apologising if he was riding like a gimp.

a cyclist is a vehicle. it is the sam e width as a lorry

Some people will defend cyclists no matter what. Sad.

too true. generally the bad cyclists are not cyclists - they're people who happen to cycle now and again.

How close was a bit close?

I am always conscious of giving enough room when passing folk on bikes, just misjudged it a bit this time and I do think the guy was being a bit 'awkward'.

Anyway sorry to him, hope I didn't spoil his ride! (The torrential rain 20 minutes later may have though!)

Some people will defend [s]cyclists[/s] motorists no matter what. Sad.

where abouts on this straight flat road did these cyclist appear from in order to make you or your friend not see them? Perhaps you are not a great driver and that is the route cause here?
GRRR how do you do a google maps link?
Google maps L40 0TA

a cyclist is a vehicle. it is the sam e width as a lorry

so if you are on the other side of the centre / white line it is okay

They were doing about 15mph, I was at about 30 (in a national speed limit) and there was about 18"-2 foot, like I say, I was bit close but not massively so.

And jedi, a bike is not as wide as an LGV otherwise I wouldn't be able to put 4 bikes in my garage...

a cyclist is a vehicle. it is the sam e width as a lorry

so if you are on the other side of the centre / white line it is okay { I like to give enough room so that if someone falls off their bike i still have enough room to drive round them but if someone is riding beside the white line I cannot realistically do this)

They were in front of two cars turning into martin mere (going west) on Fish Lane. They were 2 abreast then went to 3 abreast, I went past about 200 yds later.

Anyway, back to commuting again tomorrow after a week of driving to work, I'm sure karma will sort it out...

giving good or bad karma dont mean you'll get it back. it just means someone else will

You know what I meant! Anyway g'night, kids'll be up in a few hours.

If you can dodge a bike, you can dodge a wrench or something.

Sometimes I wonder about the mentality of people who are prepared to risk killing/maiming another to save a few seconds on a trip.

And then I wonder why they think a few seconds of their time is more important than the rest of someone else's life.

One day, all but a few trickles of oil will be gone and only the super-rich and politicians will be able to afford cars. Wind power driven electric cars will have been revealed as the useless dud they are and instead we shall all be getting about on bikes.

And as we cycle down abandoned motorways, past rotting vehicles discarded by their owners, our grandchildren will ask us what it was like in the olden days, when everyone had a car.

We'll take them to the old motorway service stations. Once teeming with motorists, busily on their way from one identikit town to another, now slowly crumbling into the ground, brambles growing through the pumps, nettles poking through the tarmac. Where once people sat and ate McDonald's finest cheese-burgers, now rats and mice skitter about, scraping a living from slowly decomposing packets of tortilla chips and ancient bags of wine-gums.

But they still won't understand what it was *really* like, back then when motorists ruled, when the whole of society was organized around the car. So we'll cycle through dilapidated towns and abandoned countryside, past rusting signs for the M62, picking our way past collapsed motorway bridges until eventually finding the Single Track World Museum. We'll join the crowds thronging that revered place, the one true home of cycling, and feel the thrill of once again reading those ages-old forum posts, preserved for posterity by the high priests of the Server Room (only allowed to ride single speeds, for religious reasons). Finally we'll go to the souvenir shop, where we will buy some genuine agent picolax, and then, tired but happy, begin the long ride back home.

Then our grandchildren will understand what was lost, and what was gained.

<sweeps hand infront of body>

I remember when all these fields were concrete.....

what a beautiful vision oldnpastit! 😀

personally i love being 'stuck' behind people riding on the road.... means i can slow down, save a bit of fuel and hold up the traffic a bit until its safe to pass in a way that doesn't scare or put the cyclist at risk. s/he's a road user just like me and i'd like to think if i were cycling on the road other road users would be as considerate towards myself.

the real bonus of that situation is catching the faces of the drivers behind me in my mirrors, getting all angry and impatient because somebodies stopping them ragging it home at 90mph in their repmobiles on roads that should be driven around 40-55mph depending on the conditions.

same with learner drivers, give em lots of space 😀

I get enough problems from cars riding on my own (on my commute that is, I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I've gone road riding out of choice) and I don't really get this attitude of cyclists are always right.
How are 3 cyclists comparable to a tractor? They [i]can[/i] make themselves easily passable, a tractor can't - and anyway, most tractors I've ever followed WILL MOVE OVER to allow cars to pass.
Any group I've been riding with, on road sections, have always moved over for cars. Don't you?

From CTC website
[i] Group riding pattern is normally in pairs. This is sociable and keeps the group together. Single file is courteous and safer on some roads.

The Highway Code specifically allows cyclists to ride two abreast. It is usually the leader’s decision when to move to single file because of traffic or when passing walkers or horses. ...Most groups have a standard method of moving from double to single file which everyone uses to make the manoeuvre smooth and safe. Ask how it is done in your group.[/i]

oldnpastit - I have some dust in my eye and looks like I'm crying, post of the week award goes to you and it's only monday

A bit of common sense from all involved wouldn't be amiss here, no?

this attitude of cyclists are always right gives [i]real[/i] cyclists a very bad name and is really just an indicator of how many silly little boys never actually bothered to grow up and develop a sense of perspective..
A militant cyclist earlier.....

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cycling for fun on the road is only playing in traffic anyway..
It's the reason I use an MTB forum instead of a roadie forum..

Yunki, that's the chap, 'cept he had a helmet on. 😉

Pink?
Gay?
Road cyclist?
Ssssh! You'll be waking the troll up.

Oi! I'll have you know I've got a shop AND a big boat, so that makes me definitely, absolutely, NOT GAY - ok?

Cake and eat it!!!

i'm gay and so is my girlfriend.

on roads that should be driven around 40-55mph depending on the conditions.

It was going so well until that bit.

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Why should it be driven at 40-55 mph? Why not 60? I'm all for driving to the conditions, but at the same time an expectation of a license holder is that he / she can handle a car safely at the speed limit where appropriate. No, I know the roads are not my personal racetrack, but neither are they a day-dreamer's sightseeing loop. They are conduits for communication, and the expectation is that road users should use them as such.

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Clearly I'm not expecting cyclists to be hammering along at 60, but car drivers dawdling at 40 are as much a cause of accidents as morons hooning around at 90.