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I don’t think Vitus beats Boardman or Voodoo TBH.

Probably some nuance between individual models in there but to me:
Vitus - well sorted range from budget hardtails, through the Escarpe being MBR trail bike of the year a couple of years ago to Kyle Strait's Ramapage bike.
Boardman - still making really oddly shaped mountain bikes, and the CX pro was the C2W bike of choice back when the limit was £1k. The Adv gravel bike looks good value for money but that's about as exciting an accolade as their range gets.
Voodoo - There was the Bizango Pro Carbon launched last year with GX and SID's for ~£1700, then it disappeared from all their sites leaving jus the Suntour/Judy forked bikes you see on the shop floor.

I’d say so. CRC and Wiggle are massively bigger and more slick (new website excepted), with much more market share.

But wasn't profitable, so business as usual won't be the case. Whoever buys CRC I'd hypothesise it'll either be someone within the industry and it'll be much smaller operation going forwards consolidated with another business (e.g. just another shopfront for another distributor, or Trendz, etc). Or it'll be another VC or someone like THG (but not THG) that just specializes in mail order warehouse companies and wants one doing bikes.


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 6:35 pm
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just the freehub, not the ratchet rings

Yeah, of course, should have thought about that for more than five seconds. Why would a freehub come with ratchets...?


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 6:37 pm
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Yeah, of course, should have thought about that for more than five seconds. Why would a freehub come with ratchets…?

Because DT are the only company with the brand clout to be able to charge you separately? I can't imagine anyone else getting away with it 😂

It worked out for me as I already had a set of ratchet upgraded 370 wheels with an XD hub that I wanted to run an SS kit on.


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 6:45 pm
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What, other brands include them with a replacement freehub? I clearly need to change my brand allegiances...


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 6:48 pm
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But wasn’t profitable,

We don't know that for sure. I've heard that it was the only profitable bit of the group (from someone who knows someone in head office).  

I also don't think Chiggle is a step up from tredz. It's was normally cheaper but not better. Tredz I've always found good, not the fastest but is been clear that an item will take longer and the Comms were good. They are also willing to add items from their suppliers to the site if you are after something (random but of a CK headset was one they added for me).


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 6:53 pm
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It's probably been done but CR have a Lifeline TT-01 magnetic turbo trainer for £9.99 seems a bit of a bargain. Down from £99.99


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 9:46 pm
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It’s probably been done but CR have a Lifeline TT-01 magnetic turbo trainer for £9.99 seems a bit of a bargain. Down from £99.99

Fluid one is £19.99 which is probably worth the extra.


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 10:17 pm
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If you do decide on a turbo trainer buy one of the cheap yoga mats to put underneath. Folded up with the turbo on top of it, it gives a bit of wobble which makes indoor riding much more comfortable.

https://www.wiggle.com/p/beelite-eco-yoga-mat


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 11:43 pm
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Thanks for the PSA on the Turbo. Just ordered a fluid, code didn’t work, couldn’t find anything cheap in stock to bump it up so payed the large item postage- £3.49!! Bargain, my first ever Turbo trainer, if I don’t like it I’ll give it away!


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 12:19 am
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. Just ordered a fluid, code didn’t work, couldn’t find anything cheap in stock to bump it up so payed the large item postage- £3.49!!

You'd have still paid the 3.49 if your order was over the nominal 20 quid threshold as it's a bulky item.

Anyway, total bargain for a fluid turbo


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 12:36 am
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You can also get a thru axle adapter for that turbo, might be worth getting to future proof it 

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/lifeline-thru-axle-adaptor-tt-02


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 4:56 am
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650b prime carbon gravel wheels back in stock

https://www.wiggle.com/p/prime-orra-650b-carbon-gravel-wheelset


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 5:16 am
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On the subject of wheels I was just looking at a pair for my Onza Jackpot. There is stock supposedly coming soon of a Hope Wheelset reduced from £999 to £1 ! 😳😳😳


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 8:01 am
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650b prime carbon gravel wheels back in stock

https://www.wiggle.com/p/prime-orra-650b-carbon-gravel-wheelsetAnd out of stock again...


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 8:43 am
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Complete turbo novice, can that fluid turbo be used with Zwift?


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 8:43 am
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It's literally right in front of you in the product description.

The Lifeline TT-02 is now in the Zwift classic trainer hardware list. The Zwift team have configured the power curve to Zwift software and so with the addition of a speed and cadence sensor and ANT+ stick you can now ride the trainer on Zwift with improved accuracy. Convert to a smart trainer with a speed and cadence sensor and ANT+ stick then ride your favourite training software programs like Zwift.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 9:13 am
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Nukeproof Chain Guide ISCG 05 Top Guide £7.99 Copper or purple only

https://www.wiggle.com/p/lifeline-steel-chain-lock    £2


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 9:26 am
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Wiggle are shifting ANT+ usb adapters for £2.99 if they're of any use to anyone Zwifting with a PC.

LifeLine ANT+ USB | Wiggle


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 11:09 am
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Halfords had an exclusive deal with Voodoo but hardly put any stock in their shops which was weird as their bikes are designed my a MTB hall of famer FFS.

So what would be the point of buying lesser brands for sale in Halfords ?

They would need to buy the retailer brand instead


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 1:24 pm
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Only 40p! https://www.wiggle.com/p/schwalbe-valve-nut (sorry)


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 2:07 pm
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I bought a pair of the Kinesis Sector Gravel wheels for my sons mountain bike, I'm now looking for a fast lightweight pair of xc tyres for it.

Has anyone seen any good deals on 27.5 high spec xc race tyres going cheap?

I've looked but theres is so many sales on at the moment that it takes a while to sift through the tyres only to find that the ones you fancy have either sold out or are only available in some odd size/colour.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 2:12 pm
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Has anyone seen any good deals on 27.5 high spec xc tyres going cheap?

Have a look at Merlin mate: Mountain Bike Tyres | Free Delivery Available | Merlin Cycles


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 2:14 pm
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Merlin is one of my favourite shops but nothing jumping out for high spec xc race tyres, plenty of wired bead or OEM spec compounds.

Thanks for the link though.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 2:19 pm
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Wiggle are shifting ANT+ usb adapters for £2.99 if they’re of any use to anyone Zwifting with a PC.

Ordered one last week for a tenner, box turned up wide open with the ANT+ adaptor missing, just had the refund email and re-ordered it for £3 along with the lifeline speed/cadence sensor set for £10 (linky) x2

Could see them having Chain Reaction shops within their branches, instead of Bikehut ones.

I'd see it the other way, Halfords might buy Chiggle, but the main asset Chiggle have is their online retail presence.

Halfords would need to bring capital to clear any remaining debts, and then apply a bit more strategy and management going forward; Figure out what to stock in the aftermath of their going into administration (and what not to), rationalise the product lines to minimise the risk of Chiggle getting into the same position.

But I'd largely keep the online and high-street retail businesses as as possible separate. Keep the BikeHut/Halfords brands separate from the Chiggle ones for both parts, accessories and bikes, maybe share a couple of things? possibly bring Chiggle's 'Lifeline' tools into the bricks and mortar shops if it helps bulk the orders for scale(?) otherwise separate them as much as they can. They actually serve slightly different markets (IMO).


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 2:35 pm
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Another bargain (IMO):

would be the Brand-X road bike, Specifically the 8 speed Microshift version because it has a more sensible 11-28 cassette, the Shimano tourney versions is probably fine but a 14-28 cassette sounds silly.

Zero Carbon parts to induce 'angst' (probably not the lightest bike ever).

But £200 for a perfectly servicable commuter/trainer/spare road bike makes good sense (IMO)...

See also the Various Vitus 'Mach 1' Utility bikes in SS or Nexus Hub gear format, they look pretty good options for town/pub/utility type bikes...


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 2:58 pm
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Could somebody point me in the direction of a 12 x 142 700c wheel for use on a turbo only? 11 speed freehub 🙂


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 4:08 pm
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Those silly cheap carbon wheels just arrived 🙂

Only the one pair. I'm not a monster.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 5:19 pm
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https://www.wiggle.com/b/prime?index=n&productTypeAttributes.wheelSizeFacet=700c&sortBy=priceAsc

12/142 rear with shimano HG

just get the prime barouder £59.99 or the more expensive Attaquer £99

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Posted : 07/12/2023 6:35 pm
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Has anyone seen any good deals on 27.5 high spec xc race tyres going cheap?<br />

BikeInn has Vitoria Barzo and Mezcal in 650b for £25ish.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 6:41 pm
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Hmm, not impressed with the grip on the Barzos, even allowing for them being a very entry level tyre in my opinion


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 8:37 pm
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Interesting, I really rate the barzos for grip with remarkably low rolling resistance, but I guess it depends what you want them for and what your expectation is for the application. It took quite a few rides for the tread to lose the release agent (they were scary on wet tarmac to begin with!), but they've been excellent since and spear to be wearing well.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 8:40 pm
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@CP. To be fair, I'm not the most experienced off road biker so you may be right. I rode them mainly on wet rooty single-track in the woods I swapped them for maxxi shorty's front / back and could barely move lol. Now on maxxi high rollers and enjoy the balance. 


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 10:13 pm
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Race tyres (which were asked for) are very different to trail tyres.  Barzo is a great race tyre in the Graphene compound and set at the right pressure, but nothing like the ultimate grip levels a soft compound trail tyre can manage.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 10:23 pm
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Thanks for the link to the speed/cadence sensor - I've ordered that and a chain checker and a couple of other things to get free delivery.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 10:30 pm
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Oh God, I'm so sorry, I hadn't twigged we were talking road tyres - I saw barzo and stupidly went straight to mtb tyres.

Forget me! 


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 10:33 pm
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+1 thanks for the speed/cadence sensor psa, I’ve ordered to go with the turbo trainer!


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 10:46 pm
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Has anyone used the Prime 650b alloy gravel wheelset?

I was looking for some winter wheels for my gravel bike.  Any tyre recommendations for Yorkshire winter roads and byways?


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 10:46 pm
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BikeInn has Vitoria Barzo and Mezcal in 650b for £25ish.

G2 TNT 2.25" 27.5" Barzo & Mezcal pair is about £66 delivered from BikeInn, I don't think I'll get a better pair of xc race tyres for less money.
Unless someone else has seen some other bargains?

Edit: Sorry if I wasn't clear, the tyres are going to be used on an 11 years olds bike and will be used for xc racing. I'm going to pair them up with the Kinesis Sector Gravel wheels as they're pretty light, cheap and fit his bike.

I'm thinking of building him up a specific bike for this but there aren't many small lightweight xc frames and sus forks about for a cheap price so so will probably just stick to his Trek Marlin and try to take as much weight off it as I can without breaking the bank.


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 7:39 am
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Were there ever any 27.5 xc weight frames? Not going to be long before my eldest will need a bigger bike again. I've already got a set of DT xr331 27.5 rims to keep wheel weight down but frame+fork look more difficult to find.


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 8:16 am
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The £299 Nukeproof scout frames are 2.3kg


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 8:40 am
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the Orbea MX range as pretty close as can be to small XC, possibly a little heavier

my nipper was on them from 24" to 27.5", just sold my 12 year olds one which was running a light manitou fork and dt xc wheels, no real frame only option however afaik


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 9:39 am
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I don't know if we've done the LifeLine Performance 39 Piece Tool Kit but £40 seems a mad deal for anyone starting to do maintenance at home.


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 9:45 am
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Were there ever any 27.5 xc weight frames?

Remember when Giant went all in on 27.5?

They had XTCs, Anthems etc. and I'm sure they must be pretty cheap secondhand now that everyone's racing on 29.


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 9:52 am
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Remember when Giant went all in on 27.5?
They had XTCs, Anthems etc

There has been a couple on Ebay but still going for decent money.
His Marlin frame is apparently about £2kg so not lightweight but not super heavy either.
It's proving a bit tricky to build a lightweight small mtb on a budget but that's part of the fun.


 
Posted : 08/12/2023 10:03 am
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