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Marin - that's interesting to hear. I'm about the same height as you. I think I'm trying to get a similar position to my road bike and maybe need to rethink that. I have a longer stem to try too so will see what difference that makes.
Marin and I swapped a few messages on this. I’m 5ft11/short legs. I bought a L and wouldn’t have wanted a M! I do like my bikes a bit longer and my old M cross bike always felt a bit short.
Sorry if already commented on but what are the max tyre widths realisticly for both 650 and 700 options
I’ve had 2.1 on 650b and 43c on 700c with plenty of clearance on both options. This is just for frame as I did my own build and didn’t use the selcof fork.
Richwak, I've been thinking of doing the same. What fork did you use?
Has anyone got any feedback on toe overlap on the small size of these? I'm in that 'in-between' sizes height of 5"7" and am wondering whether a small 650b with size 9 feet is going to be a mistake?
EDIT: Have just seen Brant's response to a post above, doh! Will have to get measuring.
Can anyone who has a Tempest give some advice on sizing please?
PX's sizing guide suggests I need an XL (I'm 6"2, inside leg 34"), but the large looks closer to my Kinesis Crosslight Pro6 57cm, which fits fine. I've been staring at the geometry tables for hours now.
Is it something to do with the upright position on the Tempest that makes the top tube seem so long?
i have the XL , I'm 6' exactly, i have flat bars and a 120 stem. feels really comfy, its been bike packing 8days in romania, and is at home on gravel and red grade mtb trails. seems really good for the money.
Anyone tried one of these with Horizon's on 650b? I'm tempted to replace the frame and forks I currently have but want to use my existing wheels if possible
For loaded up Welsh C-2-C in three weeks I want some lower gears! The SRAM Mech will take a 40T cog, so my plan is to fit one and add a bit of 11 speed chain. Anyone know if the hub on the standard wheels will take Shimano or SRAM? I know I could just whip it off to look at it, but I’m feeling lazy and hoped there was a quick answer!
Ah right when I actually checked, it’s already a 42 🙂 So I need to pedal harder or swap the front ring….
Sod it I’ve ordered one at the current price. I was looking for a new commuter in this price range so this was too good to pass over. Of course now I have to decide if this becomes best ‘Gravel’ bike and my 3 year old Escapade becomes the commuter, only riding will tell.
The stock wheels are according to the manufacturer 2way-fit tubeless ready but they only support certain Schwalbe tyres. WTF, how does the wheel know what tyres are on? ok I get there are tolerances involved but a tubeless bead and casing is what it is and if the hook on the rim works with one then why not others...
Anyway roll on build date (1st(ish) July 😊
Received my Tempest Rival 22 about 4 weeks ago, but I've been away with work and a (bikes banned) family holiday, so only rode it on Monday for the first time followed by another trip yesterday. I've got to say over the 80 miles I've ridden it now it's been sooo comfy and there doesn't appear to be too much of a speed penalty against my PX Pro-carbon, even with the 40mm tyres on. I Love it.
BUT! I have a tick/squeak that is absolutely infuriating: It's with each wheel turn and independent of pedalling or braking and is only evident when I'm sat on the bike. I'm sure it's a spoke that's slightly looser than the others and the nipple is moving in the rim, but I can't find it! Argh!
Any tips to track it down? or shall I lube the nipples and see it if stops?
ping each spoek in turn with a finger nail/plectrum - all the spokes on one side of a wheel should sound the same - if one's a bit different it's at a different tension. Doesn't mean it's the source of the noise if there is an 'odd' spoke but at least it would narrow it down if you checked.
If you do go down the 'oil your nipples' route to see if it elimiantes the issue try doing where spokes touch each other as they cross too (but as a separate exercise - if you do spokes and nipples at the same time you won;t know which was the fix).
Would this frameset take my 45c WTB Riddler tyres??
Would this frameset take my 45c WTB Riddler tyres??
Might be a bit tight. 42c Rock N roads fit though.
If you do go down the ‘oil your nipples’ route to see if it elimiantes the issue try doing where spokes touch each other as they cross too (but as a separate exercise – if you do spokes and nipples at the same time you won;t know which was the fix).
Good suggestion - thanks, i’ll Probably try it a nipple at a time 🙄 (Just to note: On the Fulcrum 700’s the spokes don’t touch where they cross. Or at least they don’t on mine)
Sorry - bit of a hijack - question for Brant:
What's the difference between these two Holdsworth Mystiques (for the £100 difference)?
https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/EBHOLMYSFOR1/holdsworth-mystique-force-1-700c
and
https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CBHOLMYSFOR1/holdsworth-mystique-force1
Cheers,
Rich
Hi
Has anybody fitted mudguards on their Tempest ? What size / make fits well ?
thanks
Matt black SKS Blumels in 45 on mine, minimal stay bending required and plenty of room for the 35c Panaracer Gravelking SK.
Sorry – bit of a hijack – question for Brant:
What’s the difference between these two Holdsworth Mystiques (for the £100 difference)?
https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/EBHOLMYSFOR1/holdsworth-mystique-force-1-700c
and
https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CBHOLMYSFOR1/holdsworth-mystique-force1
Cheers,
Rich
The more expensive one is built, the cheaper one is custom and subject to a build queue wait. Or you can Pick Build Ride it for 10% off.
Cheers Brant - actually have it now. All good!
Anyone sourced a replacement rear axle for the Tempest? Mine had siezed and just rounded out whilst tryin to remove.
Anyone sourced a replacement rear axle for the Tempest? Mine had siezed and just rounded out whilst tryin to remove.
If anyone else is wondering, it's a 12mm axle, 1.5mm pitch, 16/17mm threaded portion and 166mm shaft length. Brand X do one for cheap here.
Yes - got a QR bolt through from Merlin I think. Let me check.
Yes. This one - but it’s out of stock at Merlin.
https://www.merlincycles.com/aaerus-bolt-thru-142x12mm-axle-167964.html
If you can find it, cheap and reasonably good IMHO.
So, people have had their Tempests for a while now. How are you getting on with them? They do look good.
Very tempted but I just can't seem to get the geometry to work for me. At present I ride steel Graventurex bike with a 71 degree head angle, 380 reach and a 620 stack. Even then I have about 60mm of spacers on the steel steerer to get the bars up and it's very comfy for me. Just can't help thinking the front end will be way too low for me on these.
The front end is way too low for everyone, the headtubes are tiny.
I don’t have much to compare it against, but I don’t find the front of mine particularly low. I ditched the high rise stem it came with and replaced it with a 90mm/5 degree one from spares.
I rode mine five days consecutively last year for 5-7 hours a day. I was a bit sore in the shoulders at the end but I’ve never ridden a drop bar bike that far for one day before that!
Not sure the head tube looks that short..
That’s a large. I’m 5ft11 in old money but with quite short legs so I wanted the longer reach.
Was after one of these but they now appear to be £2K 🙁 also PX don't do C2W. I don't suppose anyone can recommend soomething similar from a place that does? I was looking at Whyte Wessex One but thinking I might prefer titanium over carbon, just seems like it might last longer.
The Force version is £2k, there's no rival on the website at the moment but I got one over lockdown and it was something like £1600 srp, but they were doing 10% off.
Doesn't solve the c2w issue of course...
Keep watching. We just got the Hurricane (road equivalent of Tempest) with full 2x11 R8000 and about £100 of options for £1850ish.
The cheap deals will come again.
Aaaaaarghhh! Old thread!
I got so excited when I saw the title, as prices have jumped so much recently.
2000 miles on my Rival 1 and to be honest it's probably the best £1300 I've spent on a bike. Commute, road, gravel, it just gets on with it. Nothing broken (even the gpx bottom bracket is still good). I had a L for my 5'11" and it fits like a glove. My only regret is that I should have stumped up the extra for the Force 1 version but there you go.
Through complete luck/coincidence, a Tempest Rival 1x came up near me for sale, mint condition. Just picked it up today for £1200 thus bypassing the complexity of C2W. Awesome bike. I think I will switch the vittoria tyres for something a bit lighter but otherwise very happy.
Been having a look at the Tempest recently and looks like a hell of a bike. Looking back through this thread is painful as the price seems to have hiked up a lot over the last year or so while the spec has dropped - even since this review 4months ago its gone up £160 whilst losing the carbon seat post and with lower spec wheels - https://m.facebook.com/planetxbikes/posts/planet-x-tempest-bike-review-just-out-in-cycling-plus-it-is-our-flagship-bike-we/3249091878440647/
For shimano 2x groupset it's now within spitting distance of the Sonder Camino/Colibri so all seem worth considering... does anyone have experience with both the PX and Sonder ones and have thoughts about the relative merits? Had a quick look at the Camino in the Alpkit and it was a beauty, but I've not seen the PX in the flesh or had the chance to ride either.
I'd be using it much more for road and touring than proper gravel but Guy Kesteven convinced me the versatility of the Tempest would make it a better option than the Hurricane. Really informative and entertaining review if anyone's not seen it -
Cheers for your thoughts!
Can’t speak for the Sonders, but I have a Tempest and my wife has the Hurricane.
Unless you want big tyres (40mm plus) the Hurricane does fine. It’s running 28mm slicks at present and there’s a set of the 32mm Victoria Revolution for the winter. They fit fine.
The Hurricane is a slightly better looking bike, still does the rack & guards, bit lighter.
Difficult call really, but if I was buying today it might be the Hurricane not the Tempest. Check the gearing though - I think it’s different.