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Cheers. Suspected may be the case. Spare set for me too. Thanks for replying.
do these AXS mech/shifters play nicely with shimano 12 speed cassettes / chains / chainrings?
Idle curiosity - I too *DO NOT NEED AXS*
There's a Bike magazine article that gushes for several pages about AXS with Shimano chain and cassette being the ultimate 12s setup. Well, until this week.
Edit... HERE
Arrrgh!
Must resist!
do these AXS mech/shifters play nicely with shimano 12 speed cassettes / chains / chainrings?
Idle curiosity – I too *DO NOT NEED AXS*
yes, if a little bit noisy either end of the block and took a bit of fiddling to set up. But the micro adjust on the button makes fiddling a breeze. Shifts are pretty perfect.
I couldn’t believe how bad the new xt 12 speed stuff is after many years on sram, soon to be on the classifieds!
Ok... I didn't need that, but I'm now £350 lighter!!
Still need a cassette and chain... oh and freehud.
I've had xx1 on my xc bike for some time, and it's excellent, so, here we are..
Thanks for the PSA (I think 🤔)
Will this work on a 11sp cassette?
Garbaruk 10 -48 with sram 11 speed chain??
If those forks were in black I'd be in a lot of trouble right now...
It can't be that hard to spray them black 🤔
Will this work on a 11sp cassette?
Garbaruk 10 -48 with sram 11 speed chain??
No ,I'm afraid it wont
do these AXS mech/shifters play nicely with shimano 12 speed cassettes / chains / chainrings?
Yep all works fine,been using my axs mech with Shimano cassette and chain for the last 2 years
The problem is once I’ve set it up it seems fine on the stand, but after a run or two it’s as if it is in between cogs. Just all noises and grumbly.
Mech hanger aligned with the park tool jobbie.
I’ve got the cheapest sram groupo on the ebike that everyone hates, and that runs perfectly!
Does anyone have any experience of the Garbaruk cassettes? Are they any good compared to the SRAM 12 speed ones?
Will this work on a 11sp cassette?
Garbaruk 10 -48 with sram 11 speed chain??No ,I’m afraid it wont
Thank **** for that. I can put my bank card away.
Does anyone have any experience of the Garbaruk cassettes? Are they any good compared to the SRAM 12 speed ones?
I have an xD 10-48 11 speed that replaced a SRAM 10-42 12 speed. Zero difference in shift quality. If I 2as getting the kit 8n the OP, I'd probably be looking at a Garbaruk cassette for it.
"It did get me thinking though, the SRAM Rival eTap AXS XPLR mech has a range of 10-44 and works with a GX Eagle flat bar shifter and i run a 10-45 XT cassette which you’d think it would accommodate. From a little bit of reading it looks like it comes with a clutch so should be ok for MTB use. Has anyone tried this as the mech is smaller and considerably cheaper than the GX Eagle one!"
It should be fine, I've got a Rival XPLR MECH running with Eagle 10-50 X01 cassette and it works ok on my Vendetta.
You do miss our on the fancy clutch and impact absorbing mechanism but it's quite a bit cheaper and lighter.
Fitted it yesterday, which was fairly straightforward other than it wasn't wanting to run firmware updates through my phone. 1st ride on it today, it's really very good isn't it. Significantly better than cabled GX eagle or xt 10sp I have been running before.
Fitted it yesterday, which was fairly straightforward other than it wasn’t wanting to run firmware updates through my phone. 1st ride on it today, it’s really very good isn’t it. Significantly better than cabled GX eagle or xt 10sp I have been running before.
Fitted mine in the week, first ride today, very very nice. Also struggling with the firmware upgrade.
For anyone that missed the CRC deal, GX AXS kits are down to £386 on Pro Bike Kit.
If anyone is sad enough to be a weight weenie like me and looking for the best value AXS, then my findings for an XX1 weight groupset at a fraction of the cost:
SRAM GX AXS upgrade kit from PBK or your friendly LBS (mine was happy to price match)
Garbaruk cassette. The easy choice for quality, value and lighter than 12 speed XX1 weight.
XO chain is 2/3 the price of XX1 and seems to be lighter compared to XX1 by a few g's, only lacking an aesthetic colourful final coating and otherwise being the same.
Loads of chainrings drop some g's and are cheaper than SRAM. I'm using Works Components for the best balance of quality, weight and value I have found.
Garbaruk/ Ratio Components both do cages for the GX AXS mech to drop a significant chunk of weight and are way cheaper than buying X01/ XX1.
SRAM X01/ XX1 cranks are a really solid, light option. There is usually some kind of variation on sale for around £200. I bought a version with undesirable graphics which must have put them in the sale, then just covered the arms with matte black vinyl.
Hard to get much lighter AXS without going in to HOPP diminishing returns and a fraction of the cost of XX1 🙂
Early impressions is that the ergonomics on the standard shifter paddle is pretty poor. I'll give it a few rides but probably swap for either the updated SRAM paddle or the AD Biking Quickshift paddle.
This Ratio cage will take a GX AXS mech to roughly the same as an X01 one, but for less money.
https://ratiotechnology.com/product/sr52x-derailleur-cage/
^ already ordered as part of my "budget" XX1 weight, AXS groupset
Is there actually any difference between the GX and X01 AXS kit apart from a few grams?
Is the X01 or XX1 stuff any harder wearing? I know there's a difference with the chains and cassettes but are the mech's and shifters all functionally the same?
I couldn’t believe how bad the new xt 12 speed stuff is after many years on sram, soon to be on the classifieds!
Sorry to derail slightly, but is this a thing? I have 9 speed XT (2x MTBs), 11 speed cheap-SRAM (town bike), 11 speed Force (gravel) and 11 speed Ultegra Di2 (road). My SRAMs work OK# but they're very clunky. 9 speed XT is perfect, as is Ultegra 11. I'm considering moving into this century for MTB# and had assumed that Shimano would be the smooth / best option. Is that not the case these days?
GX controller is identical to all the others
Rear mech is identical to X01 and XX1 besides the cages (material and weight) and a ti mounting bolt on XX1. GX with Garbaruk or Ratio cage is the same function and weight as X01 and 10g heavier than XX1
X01 and XX1 chains test as more efficient and significantly longer lasting than cheaper chains. X01 is 2/3 price of XX1 and a few g lighter as it is silver rather than coloured.
First real ride on my Shimano-AXS setup today, and it works like a charm. I modified the AXS derailleur to use Shimano-spec jockey wheels (actually the Superstar Components ones from my old mech) and set the B tension gap for a Shimano setup rather than using the AXS tool. Because the AXS mech doesn’t have the setup line from Shimano mechs, I measured the distance from pulley centre to the setup line on my old mech as 44.5mm, and used that to set the gap.
The chain and all cogs still think they are in a Shimano setup and the AXS mech is just responsible for moving the pulleys in and out. Lovely crisp shifting all the way.