Forum menu
Planet-X at John Py...
 

[Closed] Planet-X at John Pye Auctions

Posts: 6409
Free Member
Topic starter
 
[#8174478]

Stumbled across this

http://www.auction-solutions.co.uk/auction_details.asp?saleid=3639&siteid=1


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 1:55 am
Posts: 1980
Free Member
 

That is a lot of stock they are dumping. Seems odd, odd indeed.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 5:12 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

With all those and the Ebay golf shop, just how much "crap" do have to off load?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 6:11 am
Posts: 52609
Free Member
 

I guess this is the crap that isn't shifting, low return but fixed price for disposal and all gone?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 6:14 am
Posts: 24440
Full Member
 

Do you have to guess the sizes?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 6:37 am
Posts: 52609
Free Member
 

Please Note:
This is a Public Auction, not a consumer or retail sale – Lots include second-hand and used goods, sold as seen with no guarantees which is why Public Viewing is available (above) and recommended.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 6:38 am
Posts: 1980
Free Member
 

Bloody hell. Its the warranty returns.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 6:59 am
Posts: 4972
Full Member
 

Buying warranty returns from an auction , what could possibly go wrong ...


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 7:28 am
Posts: 13643
Free Member
 

That is soooo much stuff!!


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 7:56 am
Posts: 2369
Full Member
 

It's a fair amount but not exceptional, px will have a steady stream of stuff to dispose. You'd only do it this way though if i. You've written the stock off ii. You don't have time to deal with it iii. You don't want it coming back.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:16 am
 DrP
Posts: 12116
Free Member
 

with 20%vat and 20% premium on the auction price too...

DrP


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:28 am
Posts: 3188
Full Member
 

Do they send it or even box it?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:29 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

It's collection only from Uttoxetor and don;t forget to add 44% to your winning bid.

+ 20% + 20% is +44%


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:34 am
Posts: 1156
Free Member
 

I was going to comment on the price of the Pickenflick frame on there; at the moment it's £288 inc all the extras. I remember PX churning them out at ~£600 not long ago.

Obviously at the moment, they've got a 'sale' on, so they're back up a grand.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:43 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I was going to comment on the price of the Pickenflick frame on there; at the moment it's £288 inc all the extras. I remember PX churning them out at ~£600 not long ago.

And you've no idea whats wrong with the auction one unless you hold it your hands prior to the auction closing. It could have an ovalized headtube (no uncommon on PX 'seconds') or buggered BB threads or any number of faults.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:47 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

with around half a dozen 'sale' events running currently and this i'd say that the writing is on the wall.....


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:49 am
Posts: 40432
Free Member
 


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:03 am
 cozz
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

mmmm, unless the receivers have been in, and winding it all up, and clearing stock.

Wouldn't surprise me is they are trying to hang on till after Xmas, milking what they can till new year


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:13 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Sacking most of your work force and then dumping stock, doesn't paint a pretty picture of healthy company does it.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:22 am
Posts: 8948
Free Member
 

Looks like a load of crap so I'd go with clearing the decks/rationailising, saw the CT45's but looking at the freehubs they're all used so must be a batch issue with something £50 for a set of fulcrums might no be a bad shout for a set of winter wheels though - shame they're not disc.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:25 am
Posts: 2599
Free Member
 

Huge amount of those items aren't 'second-hand and used goods', so not sure why they're being listed. Lost of sealed boxes of goods, including tool kits, tyre leavers, lights & mudguards. I don't see why they'd want to shift any of this wholesale.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:27 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Huge amount of those items aren't 'second-hand and used goods', so not sure why they're being listed.

PX brand stuff is probably QC failures. Bad paint, faulty welds, minor damage (how many topics on here over the years of PX frames with damage to headtubes from poor packaging).

Lost of sealed boxes of goods, including tool kits, tyre leavers, lights & mudguards. I don't see why they'd want to shift any of this wholesale.

Buy huge amount at knock-down price, flog half 'cheap' and you've already made a profit over what you paid. Trying to clear the rest can take time and fills your warehouse with slow selling low profit items. Clear it all out for a double-knock-down price and you clear space and make a quick profit.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:31 am
Posts: 66112
Full Member
 

Some of it I'm sure is just overstocks and the like but a lot of it smells of warehouse scrapings, and this is a company that usually just sells their QC rejects so you'd have to be brave or insane to buy anything unseen.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:35 am
Posts: 3642
Free Member
 

For one of the frames I checked in the auction, once you add the fees and collect it, it works out more expensive than what I paid direct from PX and it arrived well packaged in a box with some* after sales support.

*Yes, I know about the horror stories but it was fine for me.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:45 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

For one of the frames I checked in the auction, once you add the fees and collect it, it works out more expensive than what I paid direct from PX

I think a lot of people dont realise the additional fees, they probably think its just like ebay.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:48 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Looks like a load of crap so I'd go with [s]clearing the decks/rationalising,[/s] the contents of their warehouse

There we go, much more sense.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:54 am
Posts: 40432
Free Member
 

Can't see this being a huge success TBH.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:57 am
Posts: 43955
Full Member
 

Can I just say #brexshit before we get to page 2?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:02 am
Posts: 24858
Free Member
 

jeez, once past the first couple of pages there's a load of clothing, tyres, puncture repair kits, gloves, other brand wheelsets, etc. - can't all be warranty returns, smacks of a liquidation sale.

I was tempted by some stuff from their Fibonnacci sale, just supposing this was a 'last throw of the dice' would i be at risk of not getting my goods?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:11 am
Posts: 3188
Full Member
 

I was looking at the Titus FTM frame and bits as I have one and would give me some spares, but can't collect.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:11 am
Posts: 1156
Free Member
 

I'm just looking forward to SQ2322322323256 turning up and telling us this is normal, nothing to see here, all is fine. And most of all, DON'T PANIC.

😆


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:21 am
 JPR
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

The VAT will only be on the buyers premium. So 20% of 20%.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:22 am
Posts: 7979
Free Member
 

Its not like they are known for logical business moves but this one does seem odd.

They used to be based in a warehouse outside Doncaster, I wonder if they kept it on after moving to Rotherham and this is just a clearout of what is there. Saves them putting it all in their system and trying to flog it off.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:22 am
Posts: 40432
Free Member
 

I'm just looking forward to SQ2322322323256 turning up and telling us this is normal, nothing to see here, all is fine. And most of all, DON'T PANIC.

We probably just don't understand how a modern, agile, lean 21st century retail business operates.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:28 am
Posts: 2874
Free Member
 

The VAT will only be on the buyers premium. So 20% of 20%

I don't think so, the example that they give is:

£100 bid + BP (£120) PLUS VAT on BP & Bid Total = £144 invoice

Some of the prices that people have paid are just plain daft, more than you can buy it from PX


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:51 am
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

They are selling off old tat to buy nice shiny Shimano groupsets to nail onto a reduced range of frames.

That's what I'd do anyway.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 12:06 pm
Posts: 46093
Free Member
 

Have we had boss man from On-One/PX come on yet and suggest this is normal sales practice and that we should all welcome their new sales channel of high quality [s]tat[/s] cycling equipment?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 12:21 pm
Posts: 16210
Free Member
 

We probably just don't understand how a modern, agile, lean 21st century retail business operates.

"Lean" as in no money and no stock?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 12:41 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

PX brand stuff is probably QC failures. Bad paint, faulty welds, minor damage

No, that's what they sell direct to customers...


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 12:45 pm
Posts: 17396
Full Member
 

Well one thing is for sure, any business that ordered £100,000 of stock pre Brexit and is now getting it delivered is going to be paying a blood curdling amount more unless they hedged it.

I reckon we'll see quite a few of the shallower pocketed bike distributors go to the wall. I hope that's not the case here.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 12:49 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I checked it out last night when most of it still had 6 hours to go. Some of the amounts bid even then were daft. 🙄


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 1:03 pm
Posts: 40432
Free Member
Posts: 9911
Full Member
 

I bought two sets of carbon Knuckleball bars and an El Guapo Corto stem from their sale yesterday and it was all delivered today.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:24 pm
Posts: 7751
Free Member
 

I wouldn't touch any of the frames or forks or own brand stuff inc jobsworth - QC concerns are well documented - but capmpag stuff, fulcrum wheels etc would have been worth a punt.
How long before a mountain of 'bargains' appears on eBay?
That looks like a lot of stock but without knowing their typical/average inventory it's hard to assess whether or not it represents a significant disposal.
Is there an underlying story?
If Dave Loughran stripped away all of the crap, stopped buying dead brands with warehouses full of old stock of variable quality, slimmed down the range of product offerings and got on top of the QC I think there would be a decent business there which could regain credibility but.....has that time now passed?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 11:45 pm
 mboy
Posts: 12651
Free Member
 

but.....has that time now passed?

5, 6 years ago maybe I'd say... Certainly I think the writing is firmly on the wall!


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 12:01 am
Page 1 / 2