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5'6". 29" leg. small feels pretty spot on for me. slightly more relaxed/upright than the roadrat, but that's fine cos if anything i sometimes felt a tiny bit too stretched out on the rr.
Either trim off the upright and drill through the metal plate left, or carefully remove both rivets and use one on those holes to fix the guard. Don't go crazy with the drill as the heat can distort the chromoplastic and use a rubber or leather washer ideally. Someone did suggest something like bending the upright 90 fwd and bolting through that but access to the bolt would be tricky, a small spanner would get in there perhaps.Which begs the question,
Basically, fitting is like this - http://veloweb.ca/garage/how-to-install-honjo-fenders/
5'6". 29" leg. small feels pretty spot on for me. slightly more relaxed/upright than the roadrat, but that's fine cos if anything i sometimes felt a tiny bit too stretched out on the rr.
Interesting. I had myself pegged for a small at 5'7/8-ish with 31" inside leg going off the geo. Looking like I might have to get a small and a medium ordered in to try....which I was hoping to avoid, as bit of a trek to my nearest Evans.
yeah i think it'd probably be worth you trying them both out as a small may just be a touch too small for you. i suppose it depends on whether you want to chuck it around like a mountain bike or not.
Assuming those forks are straight steerer, how and when could I buy them?
Bit of feedback from today's ride - cant fault the 4. Managed 62 miles all up at 18.5 ave on a bunch ride. Some were out on carbon best bikes still and on the short sharp climbs when everyone was smashing it it was hard to hang on. Rest of the time was fine though.
Bike very comfortable running 28mm tyres and massive amounts of clearance under the guards (fitted P45 chromoplastics as they also clear 35 cross tyres for off-road commute).
In short can't fault it - the 11 speed is good and the hydros are awesome. The main benefit (to me) is they are totally consistent and predictable and you can scrub speed quickly and easily with one finger on each lever.
It works well as a road or off road bike - clearly it isn't perfect at both as there have to be compromises but it is a very good all rounder.
Can't comment on the size small as mine is an xl!
yeah i think it'd probably be worth you trying them both out as a small may just be a touch too small for you. i suppose it depends on whether you want to chuck it around like a mountain bike or not.
Going off the geo, 555 ETT on the medium would be too long, so reckon a small is still the right choice. Just a matter of double checking. Just means a big ol' drive to do so, as nearest Evans is an hour away.
well I picked mine up last night, and commuted in on it in typical Manchester rain this morning for the first time. It's ace! sizing is just right for me, feels much more comfortable than the Roadrat and tbh it's not much slower even with the small block 8s on. I'm looking forward to getting a bit of a longer ride on it this weekend too. no photos yet, it was too dark last night and this morning!
How much difference is there between the mens and womens geometry on the Arkose?
Toying with the thought of one of these
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/arkose-one-2015-womens-adventure-road-bike-ec071311
Annebr- from what I could tell when I eventually found the women's geometry charts the women's medium is a men's small and the women's large is a men's medium.
I really like the look of these, I am torn between these and the Norco Threshold. The Pinnacles seem to command £100 extra over the Norco for the same spec. Anyone any idea why? Which do we reckon is best?
£800 with Tiagra 10spd
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as far as height ranges go yes, approx. The geometry is a little different between mens and womens but not hugely so, the main difference is bar width, saddle etc.the women's medium is a men's small and the women's large is a men's medium
Having seen this thread its definetly narrowed my short shortlist to the arkose 4 or the whyte suffolk.
Will have a look in evans at the arksoe this evening.
Jameso - sorry, being a pest and hijacking you on this thread again...will the WTB Nanos fit in the 2014 Arkose 3? Looks like they should but wasn't sure if you had increased the clearances to fit it for this year given you seem quite fond of the tyre.
Nanos are a fraction less clearance on the 2014 fork from memory, the frame's the same clearance (loads) but the new fork has a little more room above. You'd not get much more in based on clearance at the sides though.
Jameso the Singlespeed Arkose delivery seems to have pushed out a bit? My local branch is showing delivery on 23rd November now and only for Khaki. Is that the same for all branches stock? And will there still be a singlespeed in Orange please?
Sorry another question, does the fork on the arkose have a carbon steerer?
Sorry another question, does the fork on the arkose have a carbon steerer?
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Gary, it's a full carbon ADK fork, yes.
Andy, the orange SS was the first version I was riding, it's not a production colour sorry. Not sure on delivery exactly here, I know they've shipped though so shouldn't be any later than 20-25h Nov. Usually in to us 5 weeks after leaving TW.
Ah the term 'full carbon' can be misused though. The suffolk has 'full carbon, alloy steerer' which to me isn't full carbon.
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^^^ Thanks re the nanos. I have to say your presence on this forum and willingness to answer inane queries about tyres or other issues is a real credit to both the Pinnacle brand and Evans.
..or also a testament as to how easily distracted I am when based in the workshop on my tod or in front of XL sheets.. haha. But, thanks.
Thanks Jameso. Popping ito Reading tomorrow to check the sizing based on the non SS frame. Cheers
Sorry another quick question.
What's the bottom bracket on the arkose 4, says bb-4000 in the spec which doesn't tell me much. Is it BB30 press fit? If it is how durable are these and how easy to change? I have bb30 on my Sunday best road bike but haven't changed the bb yet.
When I google the bb it suggests external cups but googling the chain set suggests bb30.
This will be a wet weather commuter so need a bb that's reasonably durable. Thanks.
It's BSA std threaded, all our bikes are. BB4000 is the FSA equivalent of Shimano HT2 external cups.
So do we need to be on the lookout for a streak of blue over the moor road now rather than dayglo Jake ?? 😆
I had a look at the base one I think in Evans Birmingham, They look really well sorted and the colour (blue) was great. I already have a disc CX bike, but this doesn't in any way stop me wanting another one!
[i]So do we need to be on the lookout for a streak of blue over the moor road now rather than dayglo Jake ?? [/i]
Well I guess I would turn the jake the snake into a proper cx bike so I'd still head over the moor to whitelee. And I do operate in stealth mode on dry summer days on the black Dolan so I'm not always quite so recognisable. 😉
If you are after a small size theres an Pinnacle Arkose 1 on evans for £549
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/arkose-one-2014-cyclocross-bike-small-soiled--ec075921
Those with the Arkose 4 - how is the clearance between the cable bolt on the 105 front mech and the tyre ? Had a look at the Croix De Fer 30 the other day and its quite tight as the bolt arm on 105 is longer than on Tiagra....
Those with the Arkose 4 - how is the clearance between the cable bolt on the 105 front mech and the tyre ? Had a look at the Croix De Fer 30 the other day and its quite tight as the bolt arm on 105 is longer than on Tiagra
it's about 8mm when in the large ring. that's with the stock small block 8 tyres still on.
Thanks, sounds about same as the Genesis.
I thought the issue with the Genesis you saw, was a pre-production run, and was going to be sorted?
...saying that, they said that about the vestigal crud catcher boss on the 2014 model, and it still made it to market.
Jamie - they did say that but I'm not convinced....
The Rep said they didn't realise the 105 had a longer bolt arm than lower spec mechs when laying it out. I looked at some pics of other similar bikes with the same mech and it seems to be common issue, hence my question re the Pinnacle. Hopefully the man with all the answers, Jameso, will be along to clarify 🙂 With the 35c crossspeeds on the genesis it was probs also about 8mm when in big ring and the tightest bit of clearance on the whole bike..
You want me to check on the Giant?
Jamie, yes please , many thanks
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On the big ring. Tyre is a 35mm Schwalbe Super Swan. Made only for Giant.
Thanks Jamie. Might have washed it first 😀
Tyre is a 35mm Schwalbe Super Swan
You just made that up, admit it.
You just made that up, admit it.
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...if you're not careful, it can break your arm.
Clearly photoshopped!
Not even Schwalbe would name a tyre that.
It's a new direction they're going in.
Next year will see the Perfect Pigeon, the Legal Eagle, the Curious Crow and finally, the ****ing Finch.
Awesome ostrich!
Will there be women's spec framesets forsale?
Need a frameset to build up with spare parts after my girlfriends bike was stolen on Friday.
Can't afford the full bike while she's at uni.
Been pointed towards this .. the longer 105 mech arm clearance was noted but the space between tyre and that point wasn't something I noted as a concern, just 'disappointed in you, Shimano' : ) The clearance is more than at some points on many frames, but less than this frame has. Depends on whether that or a longer rear end is more of a concern, or how much mud room is needed.
1x and bigger tyres .. not always just for MTB.
Jameso - any news on when the frame and fork only option will be available?
What colours are they going to be?