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Hi All
2017 160mm pike.
It was losing air so i replaced the air shaft with a debonair.
Ever since it feels like it ramps up too much and i never get full travel on a ride.
Super plush at start of stroke, much better than before, but then feels like it sits at 50‰ travel unless its a big drop.
No more than 75‰ ever.
No air and it cycles through the full travel.
I want a bit more support at start and less ramping. Or less air and ramp up quicker? Would that have the same effect? I don't want to blast through the first half of the travel so quickly but would also be good to use more of it.
Would the mrp ramp control help?
Have i fitted the debonair shaft wrong?
Thanks!
Taking out a token will reduce ramp, how many do you have?
Woops, no tokens....
Don’t put an mrp ramp control in if you don’t run any tokens and it already ramps up too much. The lowest setting is worth more than 1 token I think. I couldn’t get on with one as it always ramped up too much.
You haven’t got loads of lsc dialled in have you?
Nope. Almost at softest on charger dial....
AWK by Chickadeehill is what you want. It's a retrofit 3rd sir chamber and will make it more linear.
That, or a coil spring conversion.
How heavy are you? At 170mm travel in a Lyrik I think I was running either 1 or 0 tokens and using most of the travel. On a 140mm Pike I was using 3 tokens I think to avoid smashing through the travel.
let some air out
160mm 27.5 Pike does ramp up quite a lot. Try running more sag and raising the bars if need be. Or see if anyone has an old air shaft.
Less pressure, more LSC. Do some proper bracketing with the LSC.
Awk sounds like a great shout. Haven't seen them before, thanks!
I have a 2015 Pike 160mm (27.5) with a Debonair spring. I don't really experience the same symptoms as you. The Debonair spring definitely offers more mid-stroke support vs the original spring but I can still get full travel on bigger hits. I run without spacers, and I always disliked how it felt with spacers with either the original or the replacement spring (although I'm probably in the minority with that view).
The problem you have is that anything that reduces volume in the main chamber (spacers, or the MRP and AWK devices) will only make it harder to use all the travel (for a given air pressure). So your options are to:
let some air out
(You may find that letting only a small amount of air out will help) and possibly:
Less pressure, more LSC.
Is any of this an actual issue, though? Other than noticing the rubber band on your fork leg isn't touching the crown, what more do you want from your fork?
I'd look into whether it's working correctly before buying aftermarket bits.
When I had similar problems with a Lyrik before it was been because the air wasn't equalising properly, trapped air needed releasing from lowers.