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Is this the finest looking road bicycle of all time? Well, this week mebbies. I feel a slight itch in my wallet area...

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Posted : 12/01/2023 9:50 pm
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Get a place on the Astana team and you get one for free...


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:53 pm
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What's going on with those spokes? Don't cycle near any squirrels.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:57 pm
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Nice,but that spoke pattern is hurtin ma heid 😉


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:57 pm
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What’s going on with those spokes

It's Eyetalian dontchaknow. They're for chopping salami/pepperoni for team pizzas...


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:58 pm
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Doesn’t do it for me. Almost looks generic. Could be a new system six or an emonda with dropped stays.
I know there’s not that much they can do with road bikes….but it’s just very much like a n other modern road bike.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:58 pm
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That paint job is stunning. I dint even look at the wheels, they're easily sorted.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 9:59 pm
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I dint even look at the wheels, they’re easily sorted.

Oi,stop back pedaling 😆


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:02 pm
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I saw that on an advert - the paint job is indeed gorgeous. I would!


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:02 pm
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Oi,stop back pedaling

No, you're right. Philistines the lot of you. Would it be in appropriate to announce my semi at this point...? 🙃


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:07 pm
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It’s nice and all, but I’m more a fan of something like the Standert below. Even in All Black it’s very nice.

https://standert.de/products/kreissage-rs-silver-dagger-2022


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:10 pm
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Bah, they all look the same to me.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:11 pm
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Pretty gopping, imho;
Awful looking wheels
Strange lump under the top tube (seat pin clamp?)
Dinner plate rear sprocket

All spoil the aesthetic.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:14 pm
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I wasn't going to mention the 'gravel' cassette on the back,but now that kilo has spoken up 🤣


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:17 pm
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Doesn't do much for me. This is my idea of roadbike pron:


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:20 pm
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£9k for the Ultegra version... FFS.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:23 pm
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Posted : 12/01/2023 10:24 pm
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It's a meh from me, too.  Paint-job's nice but definitely lose the wheels (cassette included).  Even the Spesh super-light thing looks better (Aethos or whatever) apart from the finish


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:28 pm
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That Reilly is perfect!


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:47 pm
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Front mech - eww


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:53 pm
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Front mech – eww

Now you can pack that in. 1x on a road bike? Idontthinkso...


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:55 pm
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Got there in the end with the pic.

That Reilly is perfect!

I prefer traditional seat stays:


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 10:58 pm
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Herein lies perfection in many forms.

https://www.sturdycycles.co.uk/


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 11:01 pm
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@tomhoward you seem to have mistakenly linked to some site with metal bric a brac on it. This is a road pron bicycle thread...🤣


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 11:05 pm
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Some bric a brac, earlier

Makes a 9k ultegra build look like pocket change too 😉


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 11:11 pm
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Not one of those bikes (edit-except the one above that appeared whilst writing) has been photographed with the crank arms parallel to the ground.

Promotion shots too.
Shocking 😳


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 11:12 pm
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I prefer traditional seat stays:

Amen brother! Dropped seatstays are a visual abomination.

Like the wheels on the OPs bike.


 
Posted : 12/01/2023 11:23 pm
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Is this the finest looking road bicycle of all time? Well, this week mebbies. I feel a slight itch in my wallet area…

Meh not my bag. I prefer my Colnago C64 that I saved for bl00dy years for.

I thought this looked nice, there was one in my local bike cafe on the wall.

https://www.curvecycling.com.au/products/belgie-v3


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 12:13 am
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Seat stay needs to meet the seat tube and top tube at the same point.  Anything else makes me twitch


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 12:17 am
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Wheels are awful, rear cassette too big and chains just looks like a bit black blob. All that bother for hidden cables and then has front mech and clumsy looking chains. Would look much better with a 1x chainset and no front mech and if you really need 2x get a Classified rear hub.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 7:36 am
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10/10 for the Wilier, just let down by the large block and long mech, but that's easily fixed.

Would take it any day over some ten a penny Ti bike. Not only is the Wilier is stunning, but it's more capable in every way - more aero, lighter, faster, stiffer, more comfortable. Plus you wouldn't ever be in any doubt which bike was yours after the coffee stop, not like if you owned a Reilly where you'd have to pick your bike from a lineup and then spend 10 mins chatting to some bore about the supposed wonders of Ti.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 9:42 am
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Don't like the wheels, and there isn't enough contrast between the colours, though that might be affected by the background used hiding the difference. Oddly I don't like the Willier decal either.

I've got to laugh at someone complaining all modern blikes looks the same then posting a raw frame - they do all look the same!


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 9:46 am
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ten a penny Ti bike

That particular Reilly is a very unusual ti bike. It would be easy to pick it out of the line up outside the café.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 9:48 am
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Some bric a brac, earlier

Stunning bikes aren't they. Tom Sturdy's a genius. His bikes lack the emotive aesthetics of some but there's a hard functional look to them that I like and the chainset/rings are beautiful.

I'm more into the late 80s Italian/Euro output look personally. Those bikes had some flair. Gimme those level top tubes, slim tubes, neat seat clusters and fork crown lugs, chrome and stupidly time consuming paint jobs with more than a dash of fluorescents. Add trad spoke wheels in silver and matching Campagnolo.

For a modern equivalent it'd be something like this. I just don't want anything more 'tech' in a fast dry days road bike.
Class


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 9:55 am
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It's a nice paint job, ruined by the wheels and the Campagnolo*.

I had a Lemond road bike in the late 90's that had a similar paint job but the forks were the same dark blue as the lower half.

*Yes, it's Italian it "needs" Campag... 🙄
Many years ago a friend bought a Pinarello frame from his local bike shop and asked them what he should build it with. The mechanic said "well if you want it to look right, Campag. If you want it to work, Shimano..."


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 9:59 am
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For a modern equivalent it’d be something like this.

Agree, way nicer looking bike. Even though it is heavier it looks lighter. Yes you would lose out in a race against the Willier but I would lose out on any bike...


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:02 am
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Is this the finest looking road bicycle of all time? Well, this week mebbies.

It's not even the finest looking bike i saw yesterday evening.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:07 am
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ten a penny Ti bike

This

I just don’t want anything more ‘tech’ in a fast dry days road bike.

+ this

Modern Ti bikes with discs and 1x just leave me utterly cold, boring and functional.

Those Steinderts are lovely! Nice to see a modern aluminium frameset that still takes rim brakes as well, am almost regretting ordering my Basso now, would have happily had a Steindert instead


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:11 am
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I often think tin for road bikes is fundamentally flawed. It'll always be 1-1.5kg heavier than a carbon bike and I'm looking for ultimate lightness (amongst other things) on a dedicated road bike. The artisan specialists produce a nice bike but it's still 'heavy'. No amount of fiddly special features and rainbow anodising will make it lighter.

I have an Enigma Etape Disc. It's lovely but more like the day tourers/Audax bikes of the '80's. Mine's a few years old now so 'obsolete' - q/r's, 11 speed mechanical, 28c max etc. **** it, it's perfect for what it is but even built light, more towards 10kg than 7kg ready to ride.

The wheels on the Willier are gopping. I'd change for Zipp's or something and the cassette for 11-28 which is what I usually ride on the road (32 if I'm going mountaineering).

For those suggesting 1x, on a roadbike? Smirks. Nope.

I also like the classic 80's/90's look but am starting to think it looks more dated than elegant. I had a Raleigh Road Ace in the 80's as my first 'serious' roadbike and loved it (a cult classic amongst Raleigh perverts). Sadly I traded it a few years later against our first tandem and regretted it forever. One came up a couple of years ago almost NOS so I bought it. I’ve never ridden it so best left in the past.

Oh and yes, modern bikes (road or not) are tending to look a bit generic. On first glance, it's hard to tell between a cheap Chinese knock off and a £15k superbike. Probly a result of the design/development process being fairly mature and (for road) the restrictions imposed by the UCI.

I do like the finish tho. Even more than 'that' red they do. £5k for a Taiwanese frame tho...


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:17 am
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Not only is the Wilier is stunning, but it’s more capable in every way – more aero, lighter, faster, stiffer, more comfortable.

Sounds like a magazine review : )


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:17 am
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I saw that Willier bike on the GCN thing. I dont like it, looks a bit old fashioned to me.

I do think the wheels are interestingly weird though !


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:24 am
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I'd sooner pay £5k for a Taiwanese made frame than anything made by Mark Reilly.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:25 am
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Doesn’t do it for me. Almost looks generic. Could be a new system six or an emonda with dropped stays.

+1

But I'd still buy one like that if I needed a new road bike (with normal wheels obvs).

Most of the differentiation in carbon bikes seems to be in the paintjobs, as the frames are so similar for functional reasons. Doesn't really bother me, but makes it hard to have a "dream bike" unless you're into the artisan ti or steel stuff being bandied about here.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:35 am
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I often think tin for road bikes is fundamentally flawed. It’ll always be 1-1.5kg heavier than a carbon bike

800g for a good carbon frame, 1600g for Ti? The rest of the parts can be the same so it's about a large water bottle's worth.

RE your point about carbon superbikes and Chinese copies looking similar at first glance, to be fair you could say the same about lugged bikes in the 70s-80s to a point. It was only the detail of the lug finishing that showed the build quality of a handmade vs the mass-produced versions. I think that's what sells the 'modern take on the classics' handmade bikes to me, the attention to detail and creative flair they can show. Doesn't make them faster but for what I call a good road ride I'm not convinced they're slower as such and they're just lovely things to own, they also have a true hand-me-down sort of lifespan potential which adds value to me.

Anyway, good job we all have different tastes, would be boring if all bikes were the same.


 
Posted : 13/01/2023 10:40 am
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@jameso Maybe. I rarely see finished Ti roadbikes ready ro ride at ~7.8kg...

Oh and 'just a waterbottle' - yeah yeah. Have a poo before you ride, don't carry your car keys and all that. It's incremental weight gain whatever you do/however you describe it. Not for me.


 
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