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Question to those who ordered the Rallon as a frame, did it come with the bolt thru 12x142 rear or did it come with the quick release?
the E13 wheels on the comp are shocking
Shit. I just bought a set of those, second hand (but unused). 😐
I know the base model comes with qr rear and the 142/12 dropouts are extra ( Qr is the one poor part of the frame as it feels cheap and crap . Upgrade it or go for next model up .
Question to those who ordered the Rallon as a frame, did it come with the bolt thru 12x142 rear or did it come with the quick release?
My frame only rallon with bos shock came with both QR and 12 x 142 drop outs.
Julians
What size/type headset does the frame take. Now you have had it a couple of weeks how are you liking it? I am seriously considering getting this frame.
headset as follows:-
top cup : 1 1/8 Integrated - 41.1mm
bottom cup : 1.5 Integral - 55.9mm
I'm generally loving this bike, it flies downhill, the most composed bike in the downhill rough stuff that I've ridden this side of a dedicated downhill bike. Absolutely destroys my previous Mojo HD (with CCDB air shock and marz 55 rc3 coil forks, so a well specced bike)in terms of downhill ability.
Not quite as good at climbing as the mojo, but not far off. Without the climbing switch set to off on the shock it bobs a bit, but switch it on and the back end becomes very very firm, which aids pedalling, but loses traction if the climb is bumpy. Climb switch is best used on smooth fireroad or road climbs, if its a tech climb then leave it off.
Other points? Its light, mine is just under 30lb with pedals, and not an especially blingy build (pike forks, reverb, dtswiss alu rims, hans dampf 2.35 tyres, mix of slx and xt drivetraim)
Downsides? the bolt thru rear needs an allen key to remove/fit the wheel, which is a minor incovenience. Doesnt feel quite as quick to accelerate as the mojo, not sure if this is the larger wheels, or inefficiency due to the very supple suspension, maybe a bit of both? Everyone looks at it due to the bright (and I mean bright) yellow paintwork, starting to feel a bit self conscious, and that I'm not as skilled as the shouty paintwork implies.
Can anyone give a brief review of their experience with the mavic cross one wheels that come as stock.
Any good?
I am looking at sourcing one from Europe with the exchange rate as it is.
Julians, can you shed any light on which headsets to buy for the Rallon? I've one on order and want to get spares so there's minimum delays in future when things need replaced!
Just been to have a look at mine ,but there's no marking or measurements printed on them so I can't be certain of the measurements,but it's some form of semi integrated for the top cup and semi integrated for the bottom cup, and it's a tapered headtube.
Sorry not much help I know
Are you sure it's a 41mm upper head tube and not 44?
I've been out a couple of times on the Rallon now... feedback time!
Ordering - I got the 2015 X30, which comes with the 135qr axle. I asked if the bike could be provided with the 142x12 fitted, bike shop spoke with the UK rep who confirmed yes. It arrived 4 weeks later with the qr! Anyway, looks like the shop are sorting it, they have received the 142 axle parts and a 142x12mm hub and are rebuilding my wheel...huge kudos to Cycle Lane in Glasgow for taking the hit on doing this.
I'd also requested the forks are not cut right down to fit the headset and that they leave 20-30mm spacers on, which they have done. This is because I was selling the Fox forks that came with it right away and putting my Pikes on.
It's bang on 31lbs with my full custom lot of stuff on it. I didn't weigh it before I stripped it so not sure how that varies.
I set it to the lowest setting. It's a large and comes with 170mm cranks. BOS Kirk upgrade on the back. I did footer with the shock settings but then decided to put them all back to the middle and just ride and see how it went.
Meanwhile I've had 3 rides with it as it stands using another wheel. Climbing - very little bob. I have flicked on the climb switch when on long fireroads. The body position is the best change between this and my old bike for climbing. I've fitted 780mm answer sl bars, a 35mm renthal apex stem, and my usual breaks a good inch inboard of the inside of the grips. Rest of the bike is pretty standard, 1x10, reverb, Shorty front/ardent rear tubeless.
It's my first proper bit of time spent on a 650 wheeled bike and I have only noticed a tiny difference, if any at all. It may just be psychological! I do notice it rolling faster down smooth slopes, where I'm now going at the same pace or faster than people who used to roll away from me. But it was on the latter part of the weekend's ride where I started getting comfortable with the bike and working it harder and suddenly it clicked... the bike felt normal when pottering around and taking it easy, but when I hammered it into stuff it became a DH bike! Really, it genuinely rode like a DH bike when I started taking risks and hitting straighter rougher lines.
Obviously I've a lot of riding to do to become more attuned to it, but I'm glad I chose it. And glad it's not got the 2016 bike 'upgrades' of a boost rear end and 0.5 degree slacker head.
Orbea have got in touch to confirm the headset is a 44mm top cup and not 41.1mm, but I've not tapped out mine to check with the calipers yet.
I did a bit more digging about the headset on the rallon,and came to the following conclusion.
Top cup 44mm
Bottom cup 56mm
I havent actually measured the ones fitted to my bike,but hopefully the above ia correct