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Again, I'd disagree. I found the PA okay but would choose the P7 over it anytime. Up, down, round and round, the P7 is a better frame for me.
I stand corrected. The P7 which I snapped was an 06, the first year they had the sliding dropouts and had orange as a colour option. It really did have rubbish geometry though 🙂 heathenwoods, just out of interest why is your P7 better than your PA?
So, in summary, I think it's fair to say it's a damn goodd bike if you don't mind the cost and static weight.
Is that reasonable?
6'5" too, 19" p7 not sure of age
I'd agree with the car park lifting test feeling heavy, but once you're on the bike it feels great. Getting a p7 for me was about getting a long travel hardtail I could give some stick too as well as use as a commute bike, it ticks all those boxes, my previous hardtail was an 853 rock lobster which was a wonderfull ride, it was the bikes ability to deal with silly stuff that made me change and I don't regret for a second.
I'd narrowed my choices down to decade, cotic soul/bfe or p7 found a p7 second hand at a great price and no regrets
I know of a 17" 2010 Pro, with an Alfine, for sale for about £1k if anyone's interested.
I get no signal on mine.
Not really. Weight, strength, price, tubesets, finish are all objective. Handling and feel are subjective as are looks and arguably heritage.
So it can't be objectively better then! It can be lighter, or more expensive, but better is an overall value judgement that has to be subjective.
Mine is so good I sold my full suss!
it is a beast.
Mine is so good I sold my full suss!
Or you ride tame trails that dont require a full suspension bike at all, you'd just been riding one unnecessarily because the MTB mags had told you to.
chuckle.I am super tame.
It's true I have been riding darn sarf alot.
I did come to the conclusion that the sub5 was a bit much for surrey/chilterns etc.
But the p7 is just a not much slower when I'm home in the lakes.
on tame trails.
I don't read mtb mags.