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With Guy Martin


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 8:36 pm
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Love it... "Come on Boy" says Guy to the bloke that's old enough to be his father! 🙂


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 8:52 pm
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I enjoyed that!
I wonder if Guy got to keep the bike he built up?


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 8:56 pm
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Yeah I enjoyed it too, nice to see where your money goes.


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 9:19 pm
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Yeah I enjoyed it too, nice to see where your money goes.
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Nudie Mags?


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 9:23 pm
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Great wee vid. I've never owned an Orange but I like what I saw. Guy Martins fab.


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 9:23 pm
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Lovely vid... Great that they took their time too, could have watched a lot more.

The bit about monocoques did make me LOL though. "Orange don't try and baffle you with ******** words like monocoque"... Well except, look at the Orange website description of a Five: "Monocoque construction". Patriot, "monocoque top and down tube". Alpine, "burly monocoque down tube", Mii, "The signature Monocoque down-tube" :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 9:29 pm
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Cool vid.

Loving the range of 'persuaders' used in the alignment checking section. British man-in-a-shed engineering at its best.

slainte 😀 rob


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 9:38 pm
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My mate Ben is in that. The welder who was talking about the 3 stages its checked at.

He said Guy was an absolutely top bloke!!


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 10:04 pm
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Just had to scrape the gf off the sofa after she watched that, it combines her two favourite bike related things.

Would love to see a video of the Giant factory as comparison!

Good jazz on the walls.


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 10:07 pm
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Proper engineering: blue overalls, jazz mags on the walls, big hammers and Northern accents.


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 10:15 pm
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Proper magic that was, loved it. 😀


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 11:09 pm
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Erm i would think he got to keep it,& if he had to pay for it it wouldn't hurt Guys pocket in the slightest! ,skint he aint! .


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 11:24 pm
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Brilliant ... The new Fred Dibnah!!!!!! Now I want an orange 5


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 11:38 pm
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Great video. It is strange how alluring Fives are when there's so many other more complex frames out there. I want a five even more now, black and understated or raw..


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 11:41 pm
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Very entertaining - smiled all the way through

Loved my old 5 - been thinking they were daft money, but seeing the workmanship - would have another.

As for Guy ..... want a guy 😀


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 11:55 pm
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I wonder if Guy got to keep the bike he built up?

I'm sure Guy is sponsored my Orange ?
The bike wouldn't cost him a penny 😉


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:10 am
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Guy really is not skint !!

http://www.evo.co.uk/features/features/260077/guy_martin_and_his_aston_martin_v12_vantage.html


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:12 am
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Had a good chat with Guy on Saturday before Hit the North.
Sound bloke.
Not riding his Five tho...
But a rather nice Scott...

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Posted : 08/02/2012 12:13 am
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I'm sure Guy is sponsored my Orange ?

He did say that money changed hands when he got his Alpine... But then he told me Orange gave him the downhill bike he was using at fort william. Also said "It looks like it was welded in the dark" though 😉

Wonder if he paid for his Soul for that matter?


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:15 am
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Great video.. my only complaint - Guy specs up his black/gold with a 3 x 10 XTR, but then claims "less is more"? 😛


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 12:18 am
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Loved that!!
Being a Halifax lad, one day I will own an Orange...


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 5:47 am
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Ah but Guy also said, if you're going to run 1x10 and chain device you should really have a 160 upfront which is fair enough if that's his opinion.

Five pivot placement is also optimised for a 32T ring, hence why they spec triples across the range bar the AM.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 7:41 am
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So .....frame alignment problems, massive pry bar or gret big hammer will sort it 😆


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 10:10 am
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Finally got round to seeing this, good enjoyable video. Had me tempted by a Five for a few minutes there.
For some reason I always think bikes are going to be built by hardcore cyclists, but the reality is it's an engineering company, and skilled tradesmen are the requirement.

Guy Martin's good in front of a camera - I wonder how long before someone manages to tempt him permanently out of being a mechanic.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 10:58 am
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Great video! I think Guy is noramlly given his bikes by Hope - his most recent being the Apple Green Alpine 160?

I'd imagine he was given the bike - it's only going to give Orange good publicity (not that they need it).
Can't wait to get my Five........


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 7:44 pm
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But a rather nice Scott...

that's looks nice .what model is it?


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 10:17 am
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So if your rear disc mount top bolt seems a little hard to screw in, that's why!

That's the first time I've ever seen Guy Martin. Just been doing a little reading. It's easy to see why people compare him to Fred Dibnah.

I'd like to see that BBC barge building programme.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 11:24 am
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Talented motorcyclist.....could have been one of the best around the Isle of Mann, was leading McGuinness one year recently until a penalty or mechanical put him out, been on the podium a few times though.
His truck fitting business is lucrative from what I've heard, he is also sponsored by Dainese leathers...no mean feat, their other high profile rider is Rossi....does some freelance journalism for the motorcycle mags too....and the BBC are trying to turn him into the next Dibnah....being pulled in all sorts of directions but making money hand over fist whilst doing it.
I think he'll pack motorcycles in soon....the IoM is too dangerous for very little return....and the race fans are just starting to turn on him due to his lack of commitment and results....I don't think he's fussed though, he can flit between MTBs, motorcycles, writing and TV and live a life most of us would give our eye teeth for!


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 12:22 pm
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I can't see him giving it up until he has won a TT.

Great video. Makes me want an orange again. If only they weren't so damm ugly.....


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 12:55 pm
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Guy Martin used to work for his Dad's truck fitting business but now he works part time for another company so I don't think that he owns a truck fitting business. The fact that he does the little Irish road races proves his commitment and he is a media magnet. Not exactly a sponsors dream but he will always get loads of publicity. Dianese paid him 100k a year to wear their product at the TT. That and the desire to finally win one will keep him going to the IOM.
If you enjoyed the Orange video then watch TT 3D, a film that was shown at cinemas last year. It's full of Guy Martin being Guy Martin and whether you like him or not, he is very entertaining.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:26 pm
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nice vid 😀


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:36 pm
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been thinking they were daft money, but seeing the workmanship

So you didn't watch the video then?

Sorry but bending things that are not square is bad engineering not good engineering. The fact you have to pay over the odds for this shows what a bunch of plonkers orange owners are. Especially if this has made you consider buying one. I am a Yorkshire man BTW.

I do have a man crush on Guy though.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:37 pm
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If you enjoyed the Orange video then watch TT 3D

second that and you don't need to be into motorbikes to enjoy it!
Good action, good documentary, good portrait!

I always wonder whether Guy Martin is actually aware of his quirkiness, charming as it is.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 1:37 pm
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alex222 - I can sort of see your point.
But on the other hand, the fact that it's such basic metalwork is pretty interesting. Every mag loves the five and most owners like it too. The only thing anyone ever has to say bad about it is that it's a single pivot and that it's ugly.
Yet, they're comparing it with fluid-formed, carbon, machined this and that who claim to be the very height of engineering prowess.

I'm glad there's a place for Orange. I may even be tempted to ride one again (the last time I rode one was before platform shocks).


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:09 pm
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yes they are a nice bikes. I am not a hater; I just think that they are over priced. Especially seeing the quality control procedures. Still I gues an item is worth what people will pay for them so I can't really say that they are over priced. I just don't think they are worth the price.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:15 pm
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Sorry but bending things that are not square is bad engineering not good engineering. The fact you have to pay over the odds for this shows what a bunch of plonkers orange owners are.

que? I'm sure if square sections were better they'd use them, But you'd end up with massivey over built bottom brackets and underbuilt headtubes.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:29 pm
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by square i mean 'in-line' or 'plumb' or within tolerance. you know one drop out being square with the other. sorry for ambiguity.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:32 pm
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Still not entirely sure what you mean? The folds run from headtube to BB pretty straight and the overall shape is a fairly rectangular crossection, if it were any more rectangular the sides would become big flat sheets which in turn wouldnt be stiff?

Pretty much anything welded is going to be out of alignment to some degree, whether thats a thin aluminium tube on a bike or a presure vessel on a refinery. Trek admitted to having big problems welding up the session 88 frames as they couldn't get the alignment between headtube and seatube right to within 0.5deg.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:48 pm
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the drop outs were not in line in two directions. hence the man had to bend the bike with a big bar followed by a hammer. what is not to understand. yes heating metal causes miss alignment but there are ways around this. I am sure that trek don't pay some bloke to bend the out of line bits with a leather hammer and bar.

They pay some small Taiwanese child peanuts to do it (bend the miss aligned frames that is).


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 2:55 pm
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They pay some small Taiwanese child peanuts to do it (bend the miss aligned frames that is).

So it's gone from orange doing it wrong to everyone (well, at least Orange and Trek anyway) doing it wrong, with knowlage like that you should be in consulting.

Quite fancy a Five now........


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:00 pm
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i am an engineering consultant


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:07 pm
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^^^ not really


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:10 pm
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That vid worked for me. Never really wanted an Orange before but kinda do now, not sure if it was the high tech manufacturing, comedy accents or famous Yorkshire sense of humour which swung it. When's the 29er coming out, lend us £3k.


 
Posted : 09/02/2012 3:17 pm
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i am an engineering consultant

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^^^ not really

I was about to make the same joke, then remembered I actualy am an engineer, just dont get to weld anything or play arround with hammers.


 
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