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Sounds like if you're finding it dead easy blatting about on an Iron Horse 7Point, get an Alpine.
wl, Your girlfriend told me your fingers smell like scampi Nic Naks.
Mmmm, scampi nik naks.
Scampi Nik Naks or Nice n' Spicy Nik Naks - now there's a real dilemma!
OP - get an Alpine with a 36.
geetee1972 - That is a lovely Nicolai!
I realise that I could get it lighter, I wouldnt have put a reverb on or changed the RP23 for a coil with a steel spring........
Who cares about weight anyway! My previous bike was a LTc and a Mojo SL before that - I prefer riding the 'heavyweight' alpine.
Anyway I have a Soul for normal trails but that would be considered heavy at 27lbs!
I have an Alpine 5.............so there 😯
That really is rad to the power of gnar x infinity x yourdogsgottits!!!
I've watched rowan sorrell take a 5 down gawton way faster than most could ride it on a proper DH bike.
If your not racing then a five will more than enough. I've been through a myriad of DH, FR and Trails bikes. The five is the first one I haven't wanted to change within a few months.
These posts are amusing....i think i want a 5 more...strange? but im worried that an alpine 160 would suit me better
get a five am with a ccdb
5AM..
20mm less rear travel, 4lbs lighter and 0.5 degrees slacker head angle.
Or Alpine 160..
20mm more rear travel, 4lbs heavier and 0.5 degree steeper head angle.
My money went on the 5AM and it's a killer!
Not being an aficionado of the fives... is the 5 AM the same frame as the normal 5, just with a longer fork so the angles are slacker? Or does it really have a different geo? I ask because I can't see a 5AM frame only on the orange site and the geo figures seem to suggest it's the former. Thanks.
as 'myheadsashed' mentions - don't forget the Alpine 5 as well
Orange Alpine 5 and Orange 5
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my old patriot was so much better going down though versus my 5
@ mrblobby... AM has maxel back end.
crazyjohnblows :...I'm lucky enough to own both 5 & Alpine 160 (both 2010 flavour). They are built-up very similar, apart from the forks. 150 Rev Teams on the 5, & 170 Lyrik solo air DH's on the 160. I'm not saying I can do either justice compared to the likes of Rowan Sorrel. But I do prefer the 160 for the Trail Centre type riding I do, be-it going up or down. The 160 is 3 lb heavier than the 5, but I prefer it on steeper climbs as it doesn't try and lift its front wheel like the 5. Then when you point it down, its just so much more fun and confidence inspiring than the 5. I know quite a few people have suggested a 5 with 160 forks, which although works well, still leaves you with 140mm of rear travel that will never match the 160mm of the Alpine (with its better shock/travel ratio) 8)
peterfile - Member
my mate in alp duez used to ride a cove shocker.
After I stayed on his back tire on a rented trek remedy he bought an orange five a SWEARS BY IT.
i take it you were catching him on singletrack, not proper DH? or is he just really slow? or were you riding some smooth DH?the thought of someone on a 5 tailgating any good DH rider on a DH bike at say, Fort Bill, is quite funny. Unless the person on the 5 is called Mr Peat
The point I tried to make was for your average guy/gal you dont need a big bike because you might not ride it to its potential, it might even hold you back..
AM has maxel back end.
Is that the only difference, as that can be spec'd as an option on the five frame. No geo differences then on the frame?
Get a Blood if the 5 is not enough Gnar!
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If you are so so good why you asking for advice!?
IMHO i wouldnt buy either, if i had to have an Orange id give up bikeing.
Theres loads of bikes out there that are a cross over between Trail and AM use. If you really couldnt find any other bike out there id probably go for the 5 and have a pair of 160s at hand to dump on for when you keep up with proper French downhillers!