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Posted : 29/01/2017 10:42 am
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Awesome. Motorised filing cabinet.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 10:48 am
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why does this not suprise me, from the biggest 'jump on the bandwagon' bike maker.

single speeds, 29er, now ebikes.
watch this space for a orange fatbike............. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:00 am
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Brilliant I can now catch my mates uphill on a 5, find my 5 hard work uphill...Maybe to much pizza!


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:03 am
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why does this not suprise me. Ton moaning about "the biggest jump on the bandwagon" bike maker.
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Posted : 29/01/2017 11:04 am
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It's pretty awful looking.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:04 am
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Screw the ebike ..my hearts here

https://player.vimeo.com/video/201247617


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:05 am
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why does this not suprise me. Ton moaning about "the biggest jump on the bandwagon" bike maker.

like a elephant, i never forget........ ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:09 am
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I like it, good to see Orange dipping their toe into serious e mountain bike territory.

Ultimate uplift bike , and very good for those French alp long days out.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:32 am
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Pass the eye bleach, it's a fnurking monstrosity.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:36 am
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Love it, if only it would come to market soon so I don't have to buy the Trek, especially as it has got bloody + wheels
Any one actually tried the Shimano motor? (compared the the Bosch one)


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:39 am
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Wow, the company that is yet to discover linkages, discovers electricity!

Seriously though, there's no sense in moaning about it, like all the other innovations in 12 months time when the mags start talking about "mechanical bikes" with a face like someone's waving a shitty stick under their nose it's all over - it'll be 50lbs assisted bikes all around.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:42 am
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Yep, pity it's not available now.

Just placed an order for a new full suss ebike last week.
Felt Redemption with the tried Bosch system, it does have the new SRAM Ex 1 drive components though.

Four different ebike systems out there now.
Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano and the Specialized system.

The Shimano one looks interesting and is sure to be a big player in this sector very soon.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:45 am
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Write up of the stage 5 over on enduro magazine , looks great but ยฃ5500 puts it against some tough competition . There will be cheaper specs I'm sure but I always get a bit disappointed with the value on the full build oranges


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 11:54 am
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Know what's great about e bikes. Soon this forum will be renamed to piston heads as modifications and lowering become the norm

It won't be long before ebikes have a full 6 speaker surround sound built in


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 12:00 pm
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I wonder what bull the magazine reviews will come up with to try and persuade us that 50lb bikes are actually fun to ride downhill while they support the industry in marketing this latest fad.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 12:22 pm
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Cue marketing of lightweight wars for ebikes to push cost up to 20k


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 12:31 pm
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When I'm older I can definitely see the appeal of an e-bike, helping me get out and about into the depths of the countryside like I can now.

I'm really hoping by then that they've shrunk some of the bits down, as right now I haven't seen one that I really like the looks of. I guess that's mainly limitations in battery technology.

As it is though, that OrangE looks like a tank.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 1:32 pm
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To be fair ton I'm not sure you can call flogging the same single pivot bike for the past 400 years jumping on the bandwagon


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 1:49 pm
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Saw these on facebook, the stage 5 looks perfect for my style of biking, I just don't have that sort of money to drop on a bike, if they do a frame only version or a low end budget one I could be seriously tempted, just depends on cost plus I was looking at a stumpjumper as my next bike and they come in small which the Orange doesn't they seem to fall out with us shorties on there 29ers!


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 1:52 pm
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ยฃ110 per 1lb of bike ๐Ÿ˜€

I reckon you could squeeze a car sat nav unit in that down tube..Ok screen would be obstructed, but you can just listen to the annoying voice talking.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 3:08 pm
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eBike, meh, maybe another couple of decades and I'm interested...

The stage 5 and Four however...


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 4:04 pm
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Weird that gearboxes would be too hard to work with frame designs yet motors are absolutely fine......


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 4:16 pm
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Like it or not, e-bikes are a growing segment of the market. Now call me strange, but I'd quite like a company that employs people in the UK to stay in business. So, while I have no interest in e-bikes I wish them luck in capturing a part of this market.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 4:53 pm
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I hope it falls on its arse and costs them a shed load of money


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 4:57 pm
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gearboxes would be too hard

I looked at the way the motor is mounted and thought 'why couldn't you have made a pinion bike?' but the reality is ebikes have taken off in a way that gearboxes just didn't


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:07 pm
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Wow - so much negativity...

Good luck to them - a small company that's innovating and has come up with an eBike that isn't half as ugly as many of the alternatives from bigger manufacturers.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:09 pm
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I hope it falls on its arse and costs them a shed load of money

yep... me too, not just orange, this whole ebike thing... i mean... come on!!!


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:11 pm
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a small company that's innovating

eh? are you pissed or what?
name me one innovative thing that orange have done.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:32 pm
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name me one innovative thing that orange have done.

Monocoque frames.
Single pivot FS.
Marketing lifestyle as much as bikes and selling cheaper bikes through image of expensive ones.
Continued manufacture in UK when I'm sure it would be cheaper elsewhere.
Being able to custom spec (to a limited extent) new bike.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:41 pm
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pretty sure santa cruz and turner brought out single pivot before orange. i may be wrong, but i dont think i am.

monocoque was probably gt or lotus.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:48 pm
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but the reality is ebikes have taken off in a way that gearboxes just didn't

but then again gearboxes have never had the marketing machines going full-tilt behind them #makesyouthink


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 5:56 pm
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but then again gearboxes have never had the marketing machines going full-tilt behind them #makesyouthink

Marketing something that makes your bike heavier and harder to pedal is always going to be harder than something that makes it heavier but easier to pedal ๐Ÿ˜‰

I hope it falls on its arse and costs them a shed load of money

thats a bit extreme/personal, did someone at orange **** your mum or something?


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:00 pm
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Marketing something that makes your bike heavier and harder to pedal is always going to be harder than something that makes it heavier but easier to pedal

Well the current ones from small companies do. Imagine if ZF got involved as heavily as Bosch have with e-bikes......


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:06 pm
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For a prototype it looks good with the integrated battery and i imagine they'll be able to reduce the weight when they put it into production, when the time comes to change my Scott E-Genius 710 i'd be very interested in it.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:11 pm
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The ebike hate comes out on virtually every thread related to ebikes these days.

I don't get it......

If you don't like ebikes , then don't buy one.

If you don't like full suss bikes, then don't buy one.

If you don't like hardtail, then don't buy one.

There's a theme here.

No one is going to force you to buy a bike you don't want.

If nobody , or very few people, buy ebikes, then they will die a natural death.

Well done to Orange for offering a bit more choice with the Shimano motor.
Be nice to see some gearbox bikes as well.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:16 pm
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Well the current ones from small companies do. Imagine if ZF got involved as heavily as Bosch have with e-bikes......

The fact that they haven't, and the fact that Honda tried an alternative drive system with its DH bike and didn't use cogs, and the fact that the mighty Shimano can't do gearboxes that are as light and mechanically efficient at their chain and cog drivetrains, strongly suggests it really is difficult to do.

But the straight-cut dog box from Quaife will be interesting when it comes out.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:19 pm
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Could someone pop round to Boltonjons house an check he's ok? This thread has been up more than 7 hrs and he hasn't posted how stupid e bikes are yet. I'm a bit worried.

I wouldn't buy one for 2 reasons.

Firstly, it's an orange full suss
Secondly, I already have a levo fsr

Echo the lolz around them making an ebike before a regular one with modern suspension/materials...


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:21 pm
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The ebike hate comes out on virtually every thread related to ebikes these days

I don't think it's hate so much, more a reaction to this sort of opinion.


Seriously though, there's no sense in moaning about it, like all the other innovations in 12 months time when the mags start talking about "mechanical bikes" with a face like someone's waving a shitty stick under their nose it's all over - it'll be 50lbs assisted bikes all around.

That certainty that ebikes will take over the planet ๐Ÿ˜†
They won't there is a market for them but it'll always be a very small percentage of overall Mtb sales.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:30 pm
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But the straight-cut dog box from Quaife will be interesting when it comes out.

Wouldn't that just be called a pinion with a motor?

Secondly is making a bike scream it bollocks off the e bike eqivalent as a really loud freehub?


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 6:41 pm
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I think it looks alright actually! The big boxy tube hide the battery etc quite well.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 7:18 pm
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As far as E-bikes go I like it as much as any other and more than some.

I thought the box section downtube was an ideal place for the battery.

Also the single pivot works and rides well so why complicate things with extra pivots?

Tom KP


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 7:30 pm
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The ebike hate comes out on virtually every thread related to ebikes these days.

I don't get it......


It's just the new thing to hate.
No different to BITD when there was hate for suss forks, disc brakes, full suss bikes, singlespeeds,29ers, fatbikes. The list goes on...
Some people just love to hate and forums give them a platform for it.


 
Posted : 29/01/2017 7:38 pm
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Ebikes are the future. Give it a few years for me to obviously get older and the bikes better I'll get one. Great for Alps, big mountain exploration days, self uplift. Plus I'm a huge Orange fan.


 
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