[Closed] On One 456, Acceptable paint finish or faulty?

What anyone else thinks is, quite frankly, irrelevant. If you're not happy, tell them so and ask for a refund/replacement as you prefer.

I have done that and they say it's normal on that finish, which I don't believe TBH.

druidh - Member
If you're not happy, tell them so and ask for a refund/replacement as you prefer.

Looks a little thin but then so does the paint on both of my Marins. Get in touch and ask.

I'll bet you won't notice it in the dark anyway...

maybe I'm spoilt lol

Whenever I put too much thinners in the mix in the gun I get a finish like that. I guess it might be the fluorescent additive (or it not being taken into account). Strange- most On One px spray jobs look like they have been sprayed on with too thick a mix (fast like that) with a bit of lost definition. Strangely though, I quite like the effect. 🙂

I was also thinking they have put in too much thinners.

You can see where it is gathering near to the edges and forming thick ridges as well as going too thin on the sharp corners. Pi$$ poor painting to be frank.

If that is what it always ends up like and no matter what mix it always did it then I would do a quick white primer coat first to hide the edges better.

My pink one is a bit like that.

Yep, mines like that, I wasn't too bothered about it really, but it's not great is it.
Had to re-cut the thread on the hanger to put a derailleur on when i got mine too.
My first and prob last On-one (until I forget about the grief I had on first getting this frame)

See what you mean but complaining about the finish on a 456 don't seem right to me. Not at that level anyhow - it would be like taking something back to primark because you weren't quite happy with the cut of the fabric.
If it was like that on something more upmarket I'd have no hesitation, but that's a long way from being worthy of complaint on a 456 frame IMHO.

It is poor. I would be disappointed in any other circumstance than my 3yr old having presented it.

Garry_Lager - Member
See what you mean but complaining about the finish on a 456 don't seem right to me. Not at that level anyhow - it would be like taking something back to primark because you weren't quite happy with the cut of the fabric.
If it was like that on something more upmarket I'd have no hesitation, but that's a long way from being worthy of complaint on a 456 frame IMHO.

ive got a 456ss(greatbike)dont worry it will all fall off anyway 8)

I wonder if little rust spots will appear where the paint is very thin and allows moisture to easily penetrate.

I'm not really sure why people are saying that it's fine to have a poor paintjob on a cheap frame. You can buy a whole bike from a supermarket for less than the price of the frame and it will have a better paint job.

But for the OP - I suspect you will be banging your head against a wall trying to get a better finish. Maybe the person doing it is just not getting on with the glow in the dark paint or maybe the equipment/gun configuration they use just won't spray it with any less thinners.

It's obv not fine to have a weak paintjob on the bike, it's disappointing. My experience of on-one, though, is that they're rough and ready value frames, and these sort of lapses in workmanship are not uncommon and are the price you (don't) pay for the frame. The 456 must be one of the cheapest MTB frames anyone would ever buy new anywhere.

Not that it's wrong to send it back of course if nmdbase feels that way. My BiL will send back his £4.99 pie and chips at Wetherspoons if he's unhappy with the pastry crust. He's pretty happy with the food he ends up getting so I'm certainly not saying it's silly to do this if that's your style.

Thats frankly a rubbish paint job. On ones are not of the highest quality paint jobs but that is rubbish

druidh - Member

What anyone else thinks is, quite frankly, irrelevant. If you're not happy, tell them so and ask for a refund/replacement as you prefer.

Is the correct answer - Thats your choice

2 ways - distance selling regs you have the right to reject for no reason within a week
sale of goods act - not mechantable quality they have not fulfilled their side of the contract - refund / replace / repair your choice

exactly, you have the right to a return/refund.
Whilst I agree it is rubbbish and you are in your rights to return, personally I wouldn't be fussed for 140 odd quid frame, esp as with me on it, the paint job will be trashed in no time..

See what you mean but complaining about the finish on a 456 don't seem right to me. Not at that level anyhow - it would be like taking something back to primark because you weren't quite happy with the cut of the fabric.

It's a £200 frame. You can buy entire bikes with a better paint finish than that.

On-One offer some good value for money. But they're not in the market of selling cheap tat.

I do agree with the price there, still as has been pointed out I've seen £100 bikes with a far better paint job.

I think the general thought is the same as mine though, it's shite!!

Here's what they said

Hi Paul,

Thank you for the e mail.

The finish on the frame is standard with this model, the glow in the dark paint can sometimes struggle to hold to the areas around the drop outs.

Unfortunately I do not have any more of these frames left in stock to swap for you, you managed to get your hands on the last one!

Would you like to return the frame for a refund?

Regards
James

BUT they are charging me £16 to send it back!!!

We can arrange collection of the frame from you, this will come with a £16 charge. We only refund postage costs when we have supplied an incorrect of faulty item.

In this instance we have supplied you with what you ordered and you have deemed it unsuitable. You will need to return the frame to us for refund.

Last time I buy anything off of them!

Thats not that unreasonable a response. Under the distance selling regs if its that you have changed your mind they are entitled to charge postage IIRC. Under SOGA - that its faulty - they are not entitled to change postage.

How much do you want to argue for £16 - its either this frame or no frame

You only paid £99 for it!

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The rusty liquid that will pour out of these holes will disguise it a little.

You only paid £99 for it!

+1 you'd pay double that for a respray at Argos so expecting a perfectly polished paint finish is probably asking a bit much. It's a steel mountain bike at a budget price, and after a few rides it's going to look far worse, but so would one finished perfectly.

What about poundland?

Glow in the dark?

Really ?

flow - Member
You only paid £99 for it!

At that price I wouldn't worry about it, once it's been built up, ragged around and thrown down a few rock steps and things like that it'll have more than its fair share of chips and scrapes anyway.

Can it not have a coat of lacquer applied? Then the paint is protected and everyone's happy.

Just been down to the van and this analogy poped into my head whilst biteing into my bacon buttie.

"Complaining about the paint finish at on-one is like complaining that the ketchup at your local greesy spoon isn't heinz"

Duno whats worse, the colour or the paint job itself.

I wouldn't be happy with that finish. How much you paid is irrelevant - if they can't provide you with a quality finish at that price they should be charging more, or at least warning you that it's going to be pants.

Only paid £99 for it.

What do you think it cost to make? The OP didn't order a QC seconds. Thats the factories fault.

If you pay peanuts....you get monkeys whinging it's not faaair.

You could try and argue that the frame provided is faulty.
It certainly looks rubbish, and the description doesn't say the paint will only be applied on certain parts of the frame! 😉

I wouldn't be happy with that finish. How much you paid is irrelevant - if they can't provide you with a quality finish at that price they should be charging more, or at least warning you that it's going to be pants.

What do you think it cost to make? The OP didn't order a QC seconds. Thats the factories fault.

for £99

I'd be pretty annoyed if my brand new frame turned up looking like that.

But saying that, I was watching one of these frames (Secondhand) on eBay a few weeks ago, that sold for well over £100, I believe it was £115+ postage cost.

So for £99 including Postage it's still a bargain, just depends if you can live with the imperfectsions. At the end of the day you brought it believing it would be painted to a standard similar to any other new frame and it's not quite franky.

The paint on my carbon 456 is pretty rubbish too. Looks fine when brand new, but scratches really easily and is soo thin.

My 456ss is GITD and paint job was fine, some of the finishing a little rough on brake and mech mounts, but not like the pictures at all. got it a year ago.

I have the same colour frame, and mine was similar when I picked it up over a year ago.
The parts where it looks bare metal Haven't rusted and by the time the rest of the paint wears you soon forget!
Not to mention the usual On One gusset rusting.
For the price you pay its to be expected, rides well which is what counts.

Its a frame to be built up and thrashed around your local trails not pinned to the wall and drooled over, all the scratches are reminders of rides you have enjoyed and the rust stains memorys of the wet winter.

It is all of £99 just ride the arse of it and have fun. If you are a tart get it powder painted and spend lots of your free time polishing

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Might be me but what view of the frame is that 😕

That's looking at the base of the wishbone. A kind of "tyre tread's" eye view. From the rear dropouts

brant - Member

That's looking at the base of the wishbone. A kind of "tyre tread's" eye view. From the rear dropouts

Ah, thank you, got it now 🙂

In my professional opinion* that is not an acceptable standard and I'd be asking (nicely) for a full refund. It doesn't really matter how much it cost if you are not happy. The paint on the corners will not be protecting the steal and it'll rust pretty quickly losing what little cosmetic appeal it has as well as probably shortening the life of the frame unless you get it re-coated. Said as fan of on-one as I own and inbred and a 456.

As someone mentioned above, it looks like a badly formulated paint, it's too thin/ poor thixotropy and has not covered the corners.

*Professional paint chemist for a number of years with NACE CIP qualification (FWIW). Edit: should add these views are my own.

user error - you should have got a brown one..