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Bad luck Shaneze. She was shaking on the gate. I guess the weight of a nation was on her shoulders and it was just too much. Liam on the other hand has no expectations on him.Gearing is usually 44-46 16 depending on the track and size of starthill.
Jamie Staff just described the final of a BMX race as a "complete lottery", and he knows a thing or two about BMX. Is that any way to decide an Olympic champion in any sport?
Good spectacle today though - preferred it to the TT qualifier round.
It is a lottery - all it takes is someone to wipe out in front of the favourite rider...
Can I be the first to say:
FLATS!
I demand a restart!! He wasn't much more than 100m out!!! 😐
geetee1972 - Member
Can I be the first to say:FLATS!
Only if I can be the first to say that I reckon they know more about it that you!
😉
Shame to see that, but as said, it's almost a lottery!
What convert said.
They'll have dancing horses in there next.
Can I be the first to say:FLATS!
You can not put that much power down at that cadence with flats.
Wow!!
thought Sam was gonna do it through the rythm section
Really didn't want Strombergs to win 🙁
I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
Only if I can be the first to say that I reckon they know more about it that you!
No need mate - you'd have to be a donkey not to see that you're going no where near the front on anything but spuds. 😆
Just a real shame for him though - had such a good start.
Shame for Shanaze and Liam was off to a flyer , looked like a great days entertainment in the sun. I'll bet tomorrows MTB xc will be a snorefest in comparison.
We woz robbed.
Looking at the slow mo - his bloody foot came out in the air! 😯
I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
totally agree. if they go to the effort of getting the best riders into the final through multiple rounds in the heats, why not in the final?
[b]chiefgrooveguru[/b] - Member
I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
Does seem odd to have semi finals on points then a sudden death final race.
[b]geetee1972[/b] - Member
Can I be the first to say:FLATS!
So did he lose his foot trying to whip the bike ?
A great event thoroughly enjoyed watching it but all rather flat now ... 🙁
if you'd said it over ten years ago I'd have agreed.Can I be the first to say:FLATS!
SPDs ruined BMX until supercross IMO. but now it's progressed so much it's imense and clips just add to that.
I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
Possibly, but the winner would probably then be the eperson who got 2nds and 3rds, whilst someone else got 1st 1st and a crash, whic is equaly unfair.
Sorry guys the track is going as its only ridable by such a small few
Is this because the Teletubbies will be moving back in once the games are finished? 😉
there's shit loads of BMX racing to watch online. go and watch some. it's the same guys racing some amazing tracks (just not in national colours)I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
[b]thisisnotaspoon[/b] - Member
I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
Possibly, but the winner would probably then be the eperson who got 2nds and 3rds, whilst someone else got 1st 1st and a crash, whic is equaly unfair.
You can address this by making it three races with last race counting double.
Sailing uses a similar system over 10 or so races, someone who is consistently second or third is seen as a very worthy winner.
What's BMX supercross? I know what MX Supercross and it's little brother Arenacross are and how they compare to outdoor MX, but how does that translate to BMX?
How do you think? 😕
SPDs ruined BMX until supercross IMO. but now it's progressed so much it's imense and clips just add to that.
Agreed. I'd like to claim the Edinburgh defense here, but I would, well be accused of using the Edinburgh Defense.
Shame for Shanaze
Hardly surprising though, whoever thought she was podium material was deluding themselves, and blaming the short gaps between motos!? Get fitter then! It's the same for everyone. Pedalling a bit more might help too.
There's going to be a few changes at BC after that.
Sailing uses a similar system over 10 or so races, someone who is consistently second or third is seen as a very worthy winner.
True, but BMX seems a bit more balls out, do or die, etc, not sure being consistently 2nd fits in with that ethos.
I wish it was best of three like the track sprinting!
As above - it needs a sailing style competition system with say 10 races to the final over a whole day. You could weight 1st higher still by having it worth half a point (or even zero or a minus score) with 2 for second, 3 for third etc to make it worth going for and have some discard rounds to get rid of your unlucky crashes and a final medal race with double points.
Wondering what the Edinburgh defence was, I looked on wikipedia. Suprised to see STW and TJ mentioned!! 😯
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Defense ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Defense[/url]
How do you think?
I've no idea, hence why I asked.
MX and SX are obviously different. BMX supercross and normal BMX look the same to me.
How the **** did TJ and sailing get dragged in here?? 😥
[b]klumpy[/b] - Member
Wondering what the Edinburgh defence was, I looked on wikipedia. Suprised to see STW and TJ mentioned!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Defense
Anyone can put pretty much anything on Wikipedia. You could name something a [i]klumpy[/i] and put an entry up
TINAS - the olympic track was supercross style your local national/regional track is as you put it "normal"
i just caught they plan to scale back some of the bigger jumps and keep it open for public access.
well the lympic track looks way bigger than my local one at hayes and im knackered by the 2nd turn on that!
As above - it needs a sailing style competition system with say 10 races to the final over a whole day. You could weight 1st higher still by having it worth half a point (or even zero or a minus score) with 2 for second, 3 for third etc to make it worth going for and have some discard rounds to get rid of your unlucky crashes and a final medal race with double points.
But then you'd get Ben Ainsley (OK he plays within the rules, but the effect is the same) and Michel Schumacer style take outs if 2 people get a lead on the rest.
Good stuff!
just a pity it's in London
I suspect in Shanaze' case nerves overcame her - she was visibly quivering ontge start line.
Both Shanaze and Liam were prospects having gone well through qualifying and semi's. BMX is a bit of a lottery though. I believe Shanaze has more Rainbow jerseys than anyone on here so give her a break!
All worry exciting to watch. Just a shame we didn't experience glory on this occasion.
TINAS - the olympic track was supercross style your local national/regional track is as you put it "normal"
Gotcha, so supercross is just the name for the pro BMX series, there's not seperate BMX and Supercross series.
Did you honestly believe Liam had a chance at gold?
UCI supercross series is a worldwide series, like the UCI MTB series.
There are plenty other race series around from regional to National level.
The UK had fallen fairly far behind in terms of track design until very recently.
I didn't think Liam did but I thought Shanaze was looking like a silver or bronze based on the semis. Seems to me that the pressure got to the favourites, especially the Brit who'd been a nearly four years ago and the Aussie whose country aren't having the greatest haul of golds...
Did you honestly believe Liam had a chance at gold?
Given we've established the result is a lottery, I don't see why not. Honestly I thought he was in with a shout at a medal, and I think the way the final was going up until he unclipped tends to confirm that.
GW - MemberDid you honestly believe Liam had a chance at gold?
Depends how many folks fell over really
[b]"we've established"[/b] 😆
a lot can happen during a final but I wouldn't call it a lottery.
wouldn't ever have Phillips down as holeshot material in the final or able to make a pass for first. Has he ever won a UCI final?
He did brilliantly tho and it's a pity he went down coming in 8th in the end.
Well Jamie Staff said it, it must be true 😉