[Closed] Oh cr@p what have I done, WARNING fox forks content.

Maybe, just maybe, they are OK? 🙄

Mine are.

If they're good, you're good to go.

If not, back on the 'Bay they go. Accurate description and you may stand to lose a few quid but hey-ho in the big scheme of things...

Brown lowers means they're early ones and as for condition, well, you may need a new upper crown assembly if the stanchions are worn which is possible. Factor in a service on top of that and it'll be costly.

You could do that all yourself but that depends on how good you are that sort of thing!

[b][u]IF[/u][/b] the current owner asked for the free washers from Mojo that go on the lowers to stop folks over-tightening, then it is highly unlikely they are cracked.

If they are not cracked put some HOPE shim washers in! sorted

TBH if they are brown then maybe they are 2007 - and perhaps the uppers and seals are pre Fox upper problems 🙂

If they don't fit the description from the buyer, winge and send them back. If he said they are shite, your a numpty, if he says there in good nick they probably will be ok. What feedback does he have? Fingers crossed. Oh and I have loads of shim washers for the lowers. If they don't have them in, I'll post you a few.

Check the dropouts very carefully before you use them, or ask for closeup pics before paying to make sure they're ok- I assume the seller says there's nothing wrong with them. The pinchbolts on the dropouts can cause them to crack if overtightened (easy to do) - I inadvertently tried to sell a pair with dropout problems, and didn't notice til the potential buyer asked me to check. There is a chance that even if he's being honest he may not have noticed (or checked for) cracks.
They'll be 05- 06 forks probably, 150 travel.

Check the pinch bolts on the lowers, they have a habit of cracking if done up too tight on those, ask if it has the shims fitted to the lower legs

Spesh used brown Talas 36s iirc on some of their bikes not sure of year tho

thanks for the info peeps, I'm going to email the seller and ask him about cracking.

this is the description;

fox talas 36 r forks, some bubbleing to crown,a common problem with fox forks,100-160mm of travel,
overall in good working order,usual paint chips nothing majior stantions are smooth,

and this is my email;

Hi, before I send payment I just wanted to confirm a couple of
things, you described the stantions as smooth, that to me means
there are no scratches or chips or any other damage to the
coating. You also describe the condition of the rest of the fork
(other than the crown which I accept) as just a few paint chips,
one common fault on this model of fork is cracking around the
pinch bolts if shims have not been fitted and the bolts have been
over tightened, can you confirm that there are no cracks at all on
the forks?

If you cannot confirm any of these things then let me know and
we can come to some arrangement regarding eBay fees and then
you can make a 2nd chance offer to the next nearest bidder.

Many thanks.

does that seem fair?

Not really as you should have asked before bidding imho I'd be a bit hacked off if I were the seller 😉

Iirc the early talas with the brown lowers were 100-150mm

check lowers for cracks at the pinch bolts.

also, remove lowers (very easy job to do) and make sure the stanchions arent worn.

Then make sure the travel adjust works and make sure they have the full 150mm of travel (measure stanchion)

If anything is wrong, send em back.

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2007 model with the 100/130/160 of travel. These are better than the 05/06's

Firestarter, I know what you are saying and yes I should have asked all the questions first, but if the forks are not as described then I would be within my rights to send them back, I'm just trying to save everyone involved the hassle.

You won the auction, they are your forks now. Why are you asking the previous owner questions?

EDIT; Sorry, I'm being harsh (and slow), probably shouldn't post after drinking but you get the idea.

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Timmys: because as I said to firestarter the sale was agreed with the description provided, if they are not as described then for the seller to take my money would be fraud (obtaining money by deception) I'm giving the seller an opportunity to back out with no harm done if he was creative with his description, am I such a bad person?

I'd ask them to change the carpet before you send your cash...

[well, there wasn't a garden to comment on...] 😈

but if the forks are not as described then I would be within my rights to send them back

FFS no you wouldn't necessarily.

if they are not as described then for the seller to take my money would be fraud (obtaining money by deception)

FFS no it's not necessarily.

Ok Cynic-al, you are probably right, I wouldn't be in my [i]rights[/i] to send it back, I'm not sure how the distance selling law applies to eBay sales, but I would certainly be in my rights to file a complaint with eBay and start their resolution proceedings.

But I'm not trying to get out of the sale, if the item is as described then I'll be more than happy.

Not sure why I am the one being attacked if ( and only IF ) the seller has lied in his description?

You are being a total Jessie about it. If ever a thread as not needed...

If they were damaged, yes you could complain. Otherwise pay up.

Sorry, the thread has kind of gone off topic, what I was really asking is what can mojo do within a reasonable cost?

e.g. how much can be repaired/replaced before it's costing more than a new fork?

You won't know til you get them, if they are ok when they arrive then all is well, if not, send em back, simples
Paypal is on your side as a buyer,

I agree with the below it is annoying when someone wins your auction then starts to ask questions.... and you did ask if your letter seemed fair 😉

"Not really as you should have asked before bidding imho I'd be a bit hacked off if I were the seller"

In desperation trying to find a fork for my build I put a big on eBay on a Fox Talas 36 thinking that I'd never get them, but I ended up winning the auction.

How do people get themselves in these situations?

How do people get themselves in these situations?

'Cause they seem to forget that they're bidding to buy, not to get the right to ask questions.

If you're not happy with the description then either don't bid or ask a question before bidding. It's hardly complicated.

Brown forks? - as long as you like 'em I suppose

Whats the Ebay ID number?

I don't think the op's being badly behaved to be fair.
The forks are described as being in good condition- I would take that to mean the stantions are ok, including not being worn inside the legs, and that there are no cracks. If the dropouts were cracked then it could be easy for the seller to argue that the buyer must have fitted the forks and done it, if the forks have been delivered. After auction end is not the ideal time to do it, but better to verify before delivery.

If either the crown assembly or lower legs need replacement then they're getting near the price that you could get a one or 2 year old pair for. I sold a pair of these that needed the lowers replaced for £65- lowers are £130, so that might give you an idea of what I think the forks are worth.

Oh, and they're described as 100-130-160 travel which I think is incorrect- they're 150, so there's a letout there if you really must.

Hora the id seems to be 320552694026

HOOOOOOOOOOOW MUCH!

If you don't want the forks, don't pay and he\she will second offer them (only £4 difference).

You will\might get negative feedback.

You will\might get negative feedback.

nah - can't neg buyers

Just to clarify the situation (for cynic-al's benefit 😉 ), the forks must conform with their description (section 13 Sale of Goods Act 1979). Of course, if the description is silent on an issue and the general description isn't misleading, the buyer must heed the words, caveat emptor.

Right. Firstly I think you've overpaid by quite abit. For a Fox I'd pay something like £170 very max as you need to factor in a service and oil seals from Mojo. I think that'd be over £100 ontop?

I bought a set of almost new Fox 36 floats on here for £330.

The description just seems abit short as well. Personally I'd ask the seller a fair few more questions relating to if the Talas works properly, does the Talas 'creep' back up, when the forks are compressed are there any dirty oil rings? etc etc- you should have asked these!

Be prepared to return the forks and ask for a full refund if not happy or you'll neg him.

Dont feel obliged to take them as they are if all questions arent satisfied. **** ebay- its a gawd-awful thing and you are not 'going against the spirit of ebay'. Why should you end up paying circa £350 for a set of 4/5yr old forks?

Thanks for your input Hora, as for the price that's my tough luck for not researching the market, and I am prepared to pay the price, if they in good working order, which means no talas creep.

The main thing is I wanted a 160mm fork so if they are indeed only 150mm as some people seem to think then they are not at all what is described or what I wanted.

Dont feel obliged to take them as they are if all questions arent satisfied. **** ebay- its a gawd-awful thing and you are not 'going against the spirit of ebay'. Why should you end up paying circa £350 for a set of 4/5yr old forks?

Sorry, you're siding with the OP who bidded this amount without asking the questions first? 😯

I know- no I'm saying damage-limitation really.

Try doing that at a car auction or Southerby's.

If you refused to accept the forks after winning, the seller is well within his rights to pursue you through the small claims court for the money.

Try doing that at a car auction or Southerby's.

When have we become fans of Ebay, the necessary evil? 🙄

When have we become fans of Ebay, the necessary evil

I'm not a fan of Ebay, however, this isn't about Ebay, it's about the OP agreeing to pay x amount for an item then deciding that he hasn't done enough research and backing out.