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NBD, it appears i've just bought an Eeb.

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Chatting with Couchie this morning he was saying how he needs to sell the Orbea as he's not got a use for it. He's got the Specialized and the Trek and the Orbea just doesn't have a purpose.
When out at Hopton on the Liv at the weekend it was slightly marred by the lack of gears, brakes, suspension, dropper on the Embolden...

So he's done me the deal of a lifetime deal and it appears i now own this

https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/bikes/electric-bikes/orbea-rise-h15-electric-mountain-bike-2022-anthraciteblack__372157?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwLDS1Lu2gQMVmwgGAB23FArlEAAYASAAEgJRfPD_BwE

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Posted : 19/09/2023 12:45 pm
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i demod one of the top carbon models on the weekend

was smitten

but what i took from it is i wanted the aluminium version because the carbon model was really that good, a few KG made no odds and the bigger battery might be useful

i even concluded that i'd probably like the h15 model

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 12:47 pm
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Nice! 👍

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 12:49 pm
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It's primary use is for places like Hopton/Bringewood for example which is a bit of a drag up and it'll be perfect for me to get some riding in while he's out on uplift days. I've ridden up on a manual but it takes a lot longer as you'd expect and i can slam out a few laps while he's practicing.

I'm happy staying with my mates on their Eebs even though they have to wait/slow for me when on the manual, but at times we're on time constraints due to light etc so a smashfest will work.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 12:53 pm
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If only the '22 models weren't built for dwarves I'd have bought an orbea wild about three times this week.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 12:58 pm
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I don't know a lot about it yet... He's ridden it 3-4 times only and is a Large. Which should suit me perfectly. It's the lower weight jobbie and lower power which again should suit me nicely... Shock and forks look sweet.. I've not even checked what brakes/gears etc it has...

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 1:04 pm
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Looks like it has a Shimano slx cassette and probably rear mech. Should do the job and more of it is steel which is probably preferable on an eeb. Can’t see the brakes - although the rotors aren’t sram centreline or hs2 so assume it’s Shimano

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 1:53 pm
 

Shifters: Shimano SLX M7100 I-Spec EV
Brakes: Shimano M6100 Hydraulic Disc
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT M8100 SGS Shadow Plus
Chain Shimano M6100
Wheels Race Face AR 30c Tubeless Ready
Cassette Shimano CS-M7100 10-51t 12-Speed

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 1:57 pm
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Great choice Weeksy, I've had mine for 2 years and love it, plently of farkling for you to go at too:

Longer travel forks

Offset bushes for the shock

Longer shock (216 x 63)

Mullet rear wheel

Shorter cranks

That should keep you busy during ownership 🙂

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:01 pm
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He normally just keeps busy with buying new bikes rather than new bits doesn't he

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:11 pm
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Headline news...

@weeksy in NBD #unshock post 😉

Only kidding, really rather a nice bike and I'm not at all jealous...hedgerow is looking a little bare and those molehills need dealing with though 😂

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:12 pm
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Nice, Like the colour v much. New Bike day is always ace. 👍

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:17 pm
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Thanks all. This was as much of a surprise to me as anyone else. I had no intention of buying it but his message meant I couldn't resist.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:19 pm
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Nice. Welcome to the Orbea owners club.

Looking forward to seeing what you replace it with in a fortnight 😉👍

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:24 pm
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LOL i've had the Slayer almost a year and it's staying, the Orbea is simply too good a deal to pass up on and will deffo have uses for me

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:27 pm
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I’ve just finished swapping bits on my new H15 as a replacement to the previous M20. I wanted to size down from my XL , wanted the bigger battery but didn’t want to pay the extra again for carbon.

I’m hoping it’ll tide me over until things progress some more and bikes with up to date geometry come down a bit in price.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:39 pm
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Nice. Welcome to the Orbea owners club.

Looking forward to seeing what you replace it with in a fortnight 😉👍

A Wild (or other full fat eeb) straight after he tries to tow the boy using the Rise.

50p on it

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:42 pm
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IMG_20221215_115901143_HDR

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:42 pm
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Same as mine ! 👍 Just ride it stock , I was told I needed to uprate the brakes and tyres from new , I've had it a year and haven't seen the need , all depends on your own riding and where you ride I guess.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 2:45 pm
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Recent Rise purchase here as well, willkómmen!

As above, ride it stock and see if anything presents itself that needs changing. Wait, i've just realised who i'm saying this to...

TBF i think the back tire is a bit poor for the slop we will get soon, but not been an issue so far. Brakes work fine (Deore 2pots, 180mm rotors), but then i'm not going Mach3! Oh, the saddle is horrible, that did go after the first ride...

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 3:06 pm
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The only thing i'll really want to swap is the brakes as i prefer Codes over Shimano.. but no desperate hurry for that, the rest of the spec i really like.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 4:15 pm
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Looks awesome, I think this is probably the first ebike I've seen that doesn't look terrible - usually the bloated downtube just looks vile but this is a bit more refined 🙂

I didn't think I wanted an ebike til I rode at Cannock last week and was really jealous of everyone cruising past me chatting whilst I was struggling on all the climbs. For my usual riding style (IE climbs are there to be endured rather than enjoyed) it makes a whole lot of sense, to get more quality DH runs in without needing an uplift.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 4:30 pm
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makes a whole lot of sense, to get more quality DH runs in without needing an uplift.

That's where i've been using the wifes Liv... but with a 36 front ring and 36T cassette, along with Tektro Orion brakes, Suntour Suspension and no dropper post it's really shown up a few things that i really wanted. The Orbea won't really get used much locally, there's nothing i can't get up around here... but as i say, when we go to Hopton, Bringewood, even Barry Sidings i think it would REALLY help to have an Eeb for giving me a bit more power.
Even in winter me and the boy can hit the local stuff and just knock out 20+ runs in a couple of hours, it won't be the ultimate in practicing, but it'll do for winter and keeping our hands in.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 4:34 pm
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Full fat ebb for me. Or it's too close to my acoustic bike

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 5:19 pm
 

Full fat ebb for me. Or it’s too close to my acoustic bike

Same for me. Not ridden a semi-skimmed one, but I know the way I use my FF, that I wouldn't be happy with the drop in power on some sections

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 5:40 pm
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“ Full fat ebb for me. Or it’s too close to my acoustic bike”

I’ve found that (for me) a full-fat full-sus ebike pairs best with a singlespeed hardtail. Full speed everywhere! 😉

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 6:44 pm
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fettlin 2nd that re saddle ! Out with the Fizik in with Charge Spoon but it's personal choice .

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 7:33 pm
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@werksy, enjoy the circlip

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 7:46 pm
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@brs If you're retaining ring on the NDS chainstay, I had to dremel some carbon to get purchase on mine, what a bas of a job! The newer ones have a wee notch in there now.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 9:06 pm
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What we talking about here then ?

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 9:18 pm
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The nds dropout bearing is held in with a circlip that has no eyelets - virtually impossible to get it out without mangling the chainstay

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 9:19 pm
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Yeah I see it in this link. 3.3 in parts.

https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/part-2-orbea-rise-lower-main-linkage-axle-and-bearing-service.26630/

Sure I'll work it out with help from you guys if needed. Is there not a funky tool for it?

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 9:27 pm
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The official tool according to orbea is a 5mm flat blade screwdriver 🤣

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 9:36 pm
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I’d deffo swap the chain for a CN9100 - lasts way longer…

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 9:37 pm
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This was as much of a surprise to me as anyone else.

Just fixing that for you - This was as much of a surprise to me as no-one else.

😉

Looks good, suspect that'll do a cracking job!

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 10:22 pm
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Welcome to the club - love my M20 - very capable bike

I shoved my Dvo Jade x and Smashpoted Onyx on it and its brilliant

The only issue is the creakyness, but I have a Cascade link coming with a better preload kit to sort that.

Will then swap all the other kit from my Ibis that been sat forlornly on the wall for a year

Riden stock other than suspension and have been pleasantly surprised at the single pot deores it came with - Im 90KG +

Sure its a little small and Geo bit old but its very stable , nimble and jumps pretty well.

And ultimately it gets be out more because of the Motor - Enjoy

Will see me right for a few years

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 10:37 pm
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Lol at the circlip 🤬 After many attempts on various occasions I finally got mine out with a small flat bladed screwdriver with a twisted end. I think it may have been a fluke. Made a mess of the paint around it. Infuriating design.

 
Posted : 19/09/2023 10:44 pm
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@weeksy i have some brand new codes coming off my Spec Enduro....it unridden. Are you interested?

 
Posted : 20/09/2023 12:03 am
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Thanks @breninbeener but i've got 2 sets already in spares, but if you wanna swap them for a set of Shimano i'd be happy to do so.

 
Posted : 20/09/2023 8:28 am
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The nds dropout bearing is held in with a circlip that has no eyelets – virtually impossible to get it out without mangling the chainstay

its easy enough to get out with a tiny flat blade screwdriver - the sort of screwdriver you use for getting tiny screws out of electronic devices. The wild fs has the same design, just did mine last night.

 
Posted : 20/09/2023 8:54 am
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After some internal discussions, planning and even garage space organising, i decided not to get an eeb after all, so let my mate know i'm not having it... I think (hope) he's happy with this and based upon his message he's cool with it.

So i'm going to make the wifes eeb a little better.

 
Posted : 26/09/2023 10:52 am
 

You decided you didn't want a shimano motor then? 😉

 
Posted : 26/09/2023 10:53 am
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Have you seen the cheap Vitus? Would be a good shout if you felt the need to eeb.

 
Posted : 26/09/2023 11:02 am
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You decided you didn’t want a shimano motor then?

Not really fella.. there were a couple of little things that i can honestly say didn't massively inspire after more reading up like the infamous circlip on the NDS chainstay, some of the linkages, but the motor didn't worry me, the bike is under warranty for ages and would be covered. Well, no more than Ebike motors worry me in general. But the truth is, the more i thought about it, the less i want and need an Eeb at the moment, especially as we already have one lying about here that's fine in terms of motor (better gearing would be nice though) , the main thing it's lacking in is forks.
SR Suntour XCR is what it came with, which are about as cheap and cheerful as you can find. So i may jump on a pair of Fox 36s which are daft money in sale at the moment. That'll make it just a little bit nicer.

 
Posted : 26/09/2023 11:17 am
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https://www.merlincycles.com/fox-36-float-grip-performance-forks-275-244684.html

Anyway, i just bought the Liv a pair of these... They're longer than standard i'll admit, but i'll try them as they come first and see, but may get them dropped (assuming it's easy enough). They're going to be better for sure.

 
Posted : 26/09/2023 11:39 am
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Forks in and pressures set, brakes aligned and new pads installed.
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ready to roll at weekend.

Sure, it's not the thread it started as... but it is a conclusion to it.

Due to some circumstances i almost went back to the decision with my mate and bought it... but it's a daft idea currently in truth.

 
Posted : 28/09/2023 3:25 pm
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Well our Eeb is having some issues. When you turn it on, the power levels cannot be adjusted, but added to that, the motor/wheel spins on it's own ! I lift the back wheel and off it goes... Obviously this ain't right.

So i bought a replacement controller unit for the bars, it goes into the loom near the headstock. Sadly this ALMOST fixes it, apart from the fact it won't power off using the button. Well, it will, but it powers itself back on straight away...

With no simple ideas left, i've emailed Ebike Motor Center to get it booked in for repairs... Then, i'll be laying it up and leaving it there for the wife to use, not me.

So with that in mind, i may re-visit this Orbea Rise idea. It's not moved since we did this thread and is unlikely to move again under his legs... But we're meeting up a few times in the next few weeks and i may trial it for a day to see how it rides.

 
Posted : 27/11/2023 8:37 am
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https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/bikes/electric-bikes/specialized-turbo-kenevo-sl-comp-electric-mountain-bike-2022-smoke__372045

Not as much power as the Rise, but suspension performance eclipses it. You can get rid of all your other bikes.

 
Posted : 27/11/2023 10:15 am
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You can get rid of all your other bikes.

I honestly don't wanna matey. I still love riding manuals and even with Eeb riding mates i really enjoy it.. Although being the slowest uphill is quite hard to accept 😀

I don't think the Liv has any real value and even though i paid for it, it's Mrs Weeksys bike so i wouldn't get anything back in the pot if i sold that. So it only leaves my Trek which is £2500 tops. A long way from buying the Specialized. We've got a million things planned for 2024 which will eat up my finances meaning that's really not an option.

 
Posted : 27/11/2023 10:19 am
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Initial thoughts from the company are "new motor" after a lot of discussions as to why/what/maybe. But he thinks it's deffo likely/possible.... £900 ! Oooof. I don't think that includes fitting either.

But i must admit, it's blown any thoughts of getting my mates Orbea Rise out of the window. Even though we could sort so i'd have warranty etc... I'm still not feeling the love that after the warranty ends, i'm £1000 out of pocket if it failed.

 
Posted : 27/11/2023 1:46 pm
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£900+ Ouch

Is that the Yamaha motor? You going to get the Liv fixed? (regardless of the Orbea)

 
Posted : 27/11/2023 3:25 pm
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